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Apple's Media Event on Wednesday - iPod and Apple TV Rumors and Speculation

baryon said:
What if it's not the Nano and not the Shuffle, but an entirely new iPod? They would then keep the the Nano and the Shuffle, maybe discontinue the Classic, and just add a new one to the line... It's a huge change from the current Nano, why not keep the Nano then?
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No. There are pricing structures, so the iPods slip into categories. This thing would be something over a shuffle but a sub-nano. What's that then? $99-$119? What a slim margin. NO.

There is a possibility Apple keeps the shuffle and lets it slink down, this would be a nano-killer in the $79-$149 line, and then the iPT will take over everything $149-up.

Apple's iPT is the preferred hardware for Apple to sell--APPS, MUSIC, MOVIES all make money for Apple on sale and they are endless. What the company wants is to have something sold which leads to selling more product and service. iPods began that with music, but now with movies and apps it would be a waste to make the iPT exclusive to the wealthiest. It has to lower down into cheaper area while the nano becomes a toy for starters.
 
smetvid said:
If the rumored iTV could run apps how in the heck would people interact with them. The idevices work because you hold them. The device itself becomes your input device and it makes otherwise pretty lame apps actually kind of cool. The only way to get somewhat close to the level of interactivity with the iTV would be to use a Wii type controller. Maybe you could use an iPhone or iPod touch but it still wouldn't give you the same touch screen interactivity most apps are designed for. To me this just seems like a massive move in the wrong direction from where Apple has been going with trying to change the way people interact with software.
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Simple. A magic track pad like controller. Perhaps the shape of an iPhone 4.

http://www.9to5mac.com/23104/apples-itv-remote-must-be-this-cool

While we don't know anything I see this happening.
 
AppEzzy said:
I am hoping for an updated Apple TV with support for apps, so many cool things you could do with that!
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If they updated apple tv and included app store apps it would pretty much make my year. We use apple tv heavily in our house and if the kids could play iPhone games on it, they would be incredibly happy. I'm still a little doubtful over yhr rumour as apple would have to be more committed to the device than they had been to make it happen... I also can't think how they would make iOS work considering it a touch based OS... or perhaps this links in with the rumour about using an idevice only as a remote for it? Either way, any kind of apple tv update would be welcomed to at least show apple are still interested in us apple tv owners!
May be in the Market for an iPod touch too if it had a retina display and a camera...
Lookin forward to tomorrow ;)
 
Man, if the mystery app is a Hypercard like App then that would be so cool!!! My first shareware apps were hypercard stacks back around 1991. Hypercard started me on the path to being a software developer. Having it for iOS would just so rule. Which means it probably isn't going to happen.
 
nwcs said:
Man, if the mystery app is a Hypercard like App then that would be so cool!!! My first shareware apps were hypercard stacks back around 1991. Hypercard started me on the path to being a software developer. Having it for iOS would just so rule. Which means it probably isn't going to happen.
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They want to promote xcode right? An iApp maker in iLife that will increase the number of apps on the store to 1,000,000 apps overnight is not what Apple want! They don't want people to exchange apps outside of the app store either.

I think an iTunes LP, advanced HTML5 creation tool (to compete with Flash) or mini Photoshop is more likely to be the mystery app.

Anyone that wants to create an iPhone App really easily should download Appomator for free. Some nice apps already made with it and no programming knowledge required. I started designing mine recently. It's soooo easy!
www.appomator.com

deej
 
markab said:
Yup completly ridiculous, if they want to compete in the tv market they can't restrict it to requiring an iOS device to use it. I think that speculation is nonsense.
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uh... there would be a standard remote, something like the macbook media remote, and your ipad/ipod/iphone could be an "enhanced" remote.
 
probably no macbook air :( Need one for Uni, hope Apple will release some laptops until the end of the year.
 
Bevz said:
Or just use the current magic pad if u haven't got an idevice... Mmmm... This is really top of my wish list! (how realistic it is I dunno lol)
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I don't know why people keep suggesting the magic trackpad for a proposed iOS powered apple tv remote - a trackpad is completely inappropriate for iOS. iOS is totally designed to be used on a touchSCREEN not a touchPAD.

iOS requires your fingers to actually directly manipulate the iOS interface - a trackpad lacks a screen so instead would have to translate your finger position on-screen with a mouse like pointer - there is no way apple is going to take a massive backward step to an onscreen cursor for any version of iOS!

Its going to be able to be used with a remote that comes with it, or just like the current model apple tv you will be able to gain extra controller functionality if you use it with an iPhone/iPad/ipod touch/iPod touch "mini".
 
ChrisGonzales90 said:
Why teen girls?





Alright. Some of you people are getting a bit confused. The $99 touch would be LAST YEARS MODEL. (AKA 3rd gen) There will not be a 16GB 4th gen.
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There is no way apple is going to destroy it's carefully constructed product segmentation by halving the price of it's entry level ipod touch.

The new shuffle sized touchscreen nano might squeak in at $99 & $139 for higher capacity, and the new generation ipod touch might squeak in at $249-$279.

What comes between those two price points has traditionally been the nano and entry level ipod touch - thats going to change this year (the ipod touch mini is my guess, but the most boring scenario is the entry level ipod touch is last years model with 16gb capacity at $179)
 
ChrisGonzales90 said:
Why teen girls?

Alright. Some of you people are getting a bit confused. The $99 touch would be LAST YEARS MODEL. (AKA 3rd gen) There will not be a 16GB 4th gen.
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I know what you're saying, but there's no way we'll get even a $99 iPod touch 3rd gen. Apple wouldn't be making enough profit over their production costs in that instance.
There's also no way it would be cheaper than the nano.
Most likely
16GB iPod touch 3rd gen - $199
32GB iPod touch 4th gen - $299
64GB iPod touch 4th gen - $399

Obviously it's all speculation at this point, but pricing the touch at $99 is a move I highly doubt.
 
mackiwi said:
There is no way apple is going to destroy it's carefully constructed product segmentation by halving the price of it's entry level ipod touch.

The new shuffle sized touchscreen nano might squeak in at $99 & $139 for higher capacity, and the new generation ipod touch might squeak in at $249-$279.

What comes between those two price points has traditionally been the nano and entry level ipod touch - thats going to change this year (the ipod touch mini is my guess, but the most boring scenario is the entry level ipod touch is last years model with 16gb capacity at $179)
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seems to me you are clueless to the fact that the iPhone 3GS is still being sold as well as the 2ed gen touch

and why does everyone keep thinking the small screen is for the nano?
 
64G iPod Touch is a must buy for all my pics and vids.

Then its an iPad for the games.

This keeps my iPhone 4 smart!
 
for the itv you'd just restrict it to specific itv apps, using whatever default remote comes with it - and possibly allowing remote access via a touch/iphone/ipad. Most apps will need some redesigning anyway for a 10ft interface, and not all will be relevant to a TV environment.

Basically the 'app store' idea is so huge right now that they can use the idea to sell the itv, even if they're starting from scratch with itv apps and it may not run iphone apps.
 
I wish I could sleep and wake up tomorrow, after itunes had downloaded the keynote.
 
mackiwi said:
Its going to be able to be used with a remote that comes with it, or just like the current model apple tv you will be able to gain extra controller functionality if you use it with an iPhone/iPad/ipod touch/iPod touch "mini".
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At $99, I don't see it coming with a $29 Apple Remote.

I reckon it'll come without remote, and still have the same remote options -- the Apple Remote at $29 (which you may already have, after all) or an iOS app or both.


ChrisGonzales90 said:
seems to me you are clueless to the fact that the iPhone 3GS is still being sold as well as the 2ed gen touch
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If there is a last-gen iPod touch option in the new lineup (ie, the current 3d generation), which is entirely possible, it'll be at the same price point as the last-gen iPod Touch option is now. NOT at $99.

and why does everyone keep thinking the small screen is for the nano?
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Because a Shuffle with a screen is inherently not a Shuffle. For one thing, any device with that touchscreen probably cannot hit Shuffle price points. For another, if you can see what's playing and have the associated amount of Flash, it doesn't have to necessarily be set on permanent Shuffle because it'll work just like a current Nano. UX wise, a square device with that touchscreen is going to resemble a Nano much more than a Shuffle. I suppose it's remotely possible that it will hit the Shuffle price points and thus replace the current Shuffle, but there's no way it'll be called a Shuffle.

(I await being proved heartily wrong in many ways tomorrow, obviously.)
 
ChrisGonzales90 said:
seems to me you are clueless to the fact that the iPhone 3GS is still being sold as well as the 2ed gen touch

and why does everyone keep thinking the small screen is for the nano?
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Yes, and the 3GS sells for $99 which is subsidized by several hundred dollars by a 2 year contract, there is no way apple is going to sell an ipod touch for $99, that would absolutely murder their margins. Thats almost the same price as a shuffle.

Apple has always had multiple iPod lines that fall into different price categories. At present it's the shuffle, nano, classic and iPod touch. The entry level iPod touch being different technology to it's two higher priced ipod touch brethren is a bizarre anomaly in apples iPod line up - For this reason I see the entry level iPod touch falling down slightly and morphing into its own separate product line replacing the iPod nano line, which itself drops to the new square shuffle sized market. This would remove the ipod touch product line based on two technologies bizarre anomaly.

The iPhone business does not have 4 separate product lines for different markets, instead it has just 2: last years iPhone for the budget buyer & the 2 iPhone 4 models for the premium product.

Its wrong to compare the iPhone product line to the ipod touch line directly, although if the iPod touch entry level does morph into a separate 'mini' product line, then it may be a sign of things to come for the iPhone 'mini' at WWDC 2011.

In having said all that - each of us has an opinion and no one knows what apple releases tomorrow, so good luck to you with your prediction (as an aapl stockholder i hope your wrong).

And the debate continues....
 
What I want: iLife 11

What I hope: Whole new iTunes redesigned and re-branded as iMedia or something.
 
for what it's worth here are my thoughts:

New square cases are for a new shuffle with a touch screen. Using gestures to control your music whist on the move. This could become the new entry level iPod... (one that people actually want as opposed to the current shuffle)

Current iPod Nano to be replaced by smaller iPod Touch. Camera, Mic, apps? etc. This will be reasonably priced and sell by the shedload, it would be enough of a pull to get people to buy this instead of the new shuffle.

iPod Touch upgraded to be iPhone 4 without phone. (for rich people without an iPhone)

End of the Ipod Classic - This might seem really silly, but on apple's guitar poster, the main thing that was missing was the CIRCLE of the hole in the guitar. Could this signify the end of the clickwheel??? perhaps... but probably not.

The reason I don't think that the new cases are for a new nano are simple. Apple replaced the old square form factor of the nano which no one liked so people could watch video on it. People don't like the new shuffle because it's TOO simple. An ipod touch mini and a new shuffle would solve those problems.


Thoughts???
 
Please God, give us a Snow Lepoard optimised iLife. Iphoto is really painful. I wish the event logo was of a photo instead of a guitar.... I guess iPods make Apple a lot more money than iLife does.

Brinkman said:
What I hope: Whole new iTunes redesigned and re-branded as iMedia or something.
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Err, the iTunes is a big brand in itself. That's like you getting all your cash and setting fire to it....
 
Kevin Winsness said:
ANYTHING to get this stock moving again.... please!!!!!!
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The share price is now driven by the iPhone and Mac sales. iPod and all of the media elements will have little effect. Two things are causing the share prices to go sideways.... the overall economy and market, Andoid surpassing the iPhone in unit volume. Once Apple is able to get the supply chain caught up, sales will forge ahead, and the share price will too.
 
No need for any of the products rumored, but it'd be nice to see what they have up their sleeves.
 
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