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"Thinking different:" How about packing a Mac into a thin keyboard package, like the bottom half of a laptop (which is that right now)?

How about letting Goggles be a primary screen for that Mac, capable of delivering 1+ screens of any size to our eyes when someone might want to do work like they are using a laptop?

Put those 2 concepts together and, conceptually, one could pack goggles + this keyboard/computer combo instead of a traditional laptop. For those who can feel constrained at up to 16" screens on laptops, this could be a new kind of mobile computing option… with ANY size screen or even multiple screens.

Not long ago, I paired a 40" ultra wide with my new desktop Mac. I LOVE the added screen RE. When I use my MBpro, it feels so relatively cramped. If goggles could sub in for that cramped screen, I could have that desktop screen- or 2+ of them- with me whenever and wherever I wanted to work in a laptop-like way.

I paid more than 2/3rds of the rumored price of these goggles for that screen which will probably only be usable in that one spot over the entire life of that monitor. If Goggles could make that monitor virtually mobile, $3K- as rumored- sounds like a bargain to me.

But that's just one pile of wild speculation seeking a valid "use case" for this product. I'm in at $3K if it could deliver only this ONE thing. With this rumor, it sounds more like it COULD do that vs. prior goggle rumors.
 
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"Reality Pro" is a terrible name for this White Elephant and will roundly lampooned.

Is reality now only for professionals?! 😎 Are they trying to hide the reality this is a digital device with a virtual world?

It's as bad a name as the "Kindle" was for Amazon's e-reader -- seemed like no one at Amazon had ever heard of or read Ray Bradbury's classic, Fahrenheit 451.
People made fun of pretty much all Apple product names when they first came out and now they are just part of our vocabulary. It isn't the best name for search optimization, but I think it sounds fine. Nobody makes fun of the Kindle name, just saying.

Because it is an Apple product, I'm sure there will at least be some friendly making fun of the name. I could see it being compared to the Reality Distortion Field in some way on a late show.
 
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It’s in the article, there’s an insert for lenses. Probably special Apple lenses, but they did think about it. How well it might actually work for you is probably dependent on the person.
Ohhh I see that now.
 
"Thinking different:" How about packing a Mac into a thin keyboard package, like the bottom half of a laptop (which is that right now)?

How about letting Goggles be a primary screen for that Mac, capable of delivering 1+ screens of any size to our eyes when someone might want to do work like they are using a laptop?

Put those 2 concepts together and, conceptually, one could pack goggles + this keyboard/computer combo instead of a traditional laptop. For those who can feel constrained at up to 16" screens on laptops, this could be a new kind of mobile computing option… with ANY size screen or even multiple screens.
It will work standalone and run productivity apps, so you don't really need to put a computer in the keyboard. Just link the keyboard with the headset that already has a computer in it. I'm 100% sure this will be something you can do in the first version of the headset.

I imagine it will also support Xbox controllers which might be interesting for XR games. People are lazy and moving your arms around a lot is fatiguing which is why most of our input peripherals are designed for as little arm movement as possible. Heavy movement is better for shorter XR experiences.
 
How do these devices work for people who need reading glasses? I don't think I could focus on anything that close to my eyes.

It’s in the article, there’s an insert for lenses. Probably special Apple lenses, but they did think about it. How well it might actually work for you is probably dependent on the person.

I can't imagine what kind of lens I'd need to focus on something 2 inches away. Sounds like an expensive headache … literally. :oops:;)
The standard lenses are what let you focus on something 2 inches away. Most VR headsets set the focus distance in the range of one to two meters. So you won’t need an insert. In fact, having poor close up vision is actually a good thing for these headsets, because you don’t need to worry as much about the vergence-accommodation conflict.
 
Is it weird that I want Apple to release this AR/VR headset in MacWorld, Moscone West, San Francisco? Where Apple announced the 1st generation iPhone in 2007.

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Like how Steve Jobs would put it “It gives great demo, but once you start to having your eyes strapped to the VR, your eyes will fatigue and your head wants to fall off. It’s terrible nobody wants to have things strapped to their head” 🤷‍♂️
 
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"Thinking different:" How about packing a Mac into a thin keyboard package, like the bottom half of a laptop (which is that right now)?

How about letting Goggles be a primary screen for that Mac, capable of delivering 1+ screens of any size to our eyes when someone might want to do work like they are using a laptop?
As these are supposed to have good powered M series chips in them, the “thin keyboard package” could literally be just a Magic Keyboard. And, if one likes, a Magic Mouse. I believe the performance of these are going to be pretty far beyond any other untethered goggle’s experience as, even for the companies deploying custom chips (and not just hot general purpose CPU/GPU combos, none of them have had the years of experience Apple has.
 
The best use case (at this very moment) I can envision that could achieve broad adaptation is partnering with the NFL, NBA, NHL, Premier League, etc., on watching live games from the fan POV. Why pay hundreds of dollars to attend an NFL game when you could pay, say, $5 or $10 to watch the live game from the POV of the 50-yard line, but in the comfort of your living room? You could recharge at halftime and then receive a notification on your Apple Watch or iPhone that it's time to put your headset back on.

Sure, this can also be used for Facetime and video conferencing — but I'm just not sure the corporate world is there yet. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
It will work standalone and run productivity apps, so you don't really need to put a computer in the keyboard. Just link the keyboard with the headset that already has a computer in it. I'm 100% sure this will be something you can do in the first version of the headset.

All the better. So now imagine a bluetooth keyboard + trackpad/mouse and this as an ALT option stand-in for some laptop users who would feel more productive on the oft-wished 17" MB. How about a 20" MB? How about a 24"? MB 30"? 40"? Ultra-wide? TWO ultra-wides? That's just ONE potential game here. If it can show our eyes a VR that looks R enough, why can't we have a mobile Mac with any number and any size of screens as we need them?

That seems VERY appealing to me!

Of course, this would not be for everyone, but neither is every size of laptop, desktop, iPhone or iPad. We tend to gravitate towards what works best for us. Perhaps an any-size ALT laptop screen would be popular with more than only me?

Personally, I really like my MBpro for the convenience of working anywhere... EXCEPT, even a 16" screen feels so very cramped for my computing tasks. It seems like a 27" MB would be crazy/bulky/nuts... even crazier as an ultra-wide laptop to replicate my 40" UW desktop screen now. But what if goggles can deliver the any-size-screen(s) laptop virtually?
 
I can't imagine what kind of lens I'd need to focus on something 2 inches away. Sounds like an expensive headache … literally. :oops:;)
Sounds like you haven't used another headset. You aren't aware of the screen existing and it will certainly be closer than 2 inches from your eye. There is no focus fatigue. There are other forms of VR fatigue and hopefully this headset is a step or more further toward addressing those. The most recent headsets from other companies have already made it far enough for even more sensitive people to handle longer sessions. I imagine Apple's headset will be a significant improvement with it auto-adjusting to your eyes, much higher resolution, probably lower latency, and probably higher frame rate. Fatigue may not be much worse then staring at a normal screen. If you are using it as a workspace enhancer there should be very little fatigue anyway. Most of the fatigue is from teleporting around a game level or other unnatural actions.
 
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and Will Work as Second Display for Mac
I think “alternative” would be a better word than “second”. You won’t be using both at the same time.
According to Bloomberg, the wearer will be able to control the headset by looking at an on-screen item to select it, then using gestures to activate the on-screen item.
For all the people claiming a VR interface will tire your arms, this is why it won’t. If you don’t have a physical keyboard and mouse, just look at what you want to select, and tap your thumb and forefinger together to select. Depending on the FOV of the tracking cameras, you may even be able to keep your hand in your lap.
Unlike other headset options, Apple will not rely on a physical controller.
I think that’s great! But I really hope they are available as an option. Many of my favorite VR experiences wouldn’t work well with only hand tracking, no matter how good it is.
 
I was thinking a lot about this the other day when the rumours came suggesting AR Glass was being shelved.

Assuming it has a decent 10+ metre set of Lidars on it, it would make a massive impact for the blind. It could also be used to map streets in major cities with absolute precision, and would supplement Operation Titan.

On top of that, many visually impaired people have a reduced periphery so between the cameras, the haptics and possible audio, it could be used to give the user an experience and mobility that they would never have had. And for $3,000 that would be a bargain.

I don’t for a second believe they are ready for this, but in the area of visual impaired people, it could make a huge difference.

Tim has always said he believes Apples biggest contribution to people would be in Health. Maybe the future is near.
We could map the whole interior and exterior of almost all major cities by apple just asking people if they can turn on their LiDAR on phones and use it with GPS. No one could handle all that data and stitching it altogether would be the largest data challenge in history.
 
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The best use case (at this very moment) I can envision that could achieve broad adaptation is partnering with the NFL, NBA, NHL, Premier League, etc., on watching live games from the fan POV. Why pay hundreds of dollars to attend an NFL game when you could pay, say, $5 or $10 to watch the live game from the POV of the 50-yard line, but in the comfort of your living room? You could recharge at halftime and then receive a notification on your Apple Watch or iPhone that it's time to put your headset back on.

Sure, this can also be used for Facetime and video conferencing — but I'm just not sure the corporate world is there yet. Maybe I'm wrong.

That seems obvious to me as subscription services, which Apple is very clearly on the record of wanting to grow.

I doubt it would be as cheap as $5 or $10 with Apple involved (maybe a single game sampler), but I could see new versions of packages like NFL Sunday Ticket priced at the traditional levels for a 2D TV screen experience UPPED to get Apple its margin and appealing to some of the millions who easily lay out the money for the existing version of NFL ST.

Spread that to college sports, the other pro sports, broadway seasons, Cirque, concert packages, etc.

I would have ZERO expectations that this would lead to empty stadiums/venues/etc... just as existing offerings like NFL ST didn't lead to empty stadiums. But I can VERY easily see this as ANOTHER "killer app" for Goggles too... for those who- say- love their favorite team live but just can't be there... or love broadway seasons but can't easily get to NYC, etc.

Why would the producers be interested? What would you rather sell? Seat 1A to one person for even $10K or the VR version of Seat 1A to thousands, tens of thousands or millions of people for considerably less than $10K while making much more money on the volume play? They make more money from that seat, Apple gets their big fat cut and buyers get to feel as close to actually being there when they can't actually be there.

What if Apple rumors about NFL ST recently was not Apple trying to get traditional 2D ST but NFL ST VR? NFL could sell ST to others to get all of the revenue they want for that product and now here's another layer of easy revenue from the same basic product for those willing to own Goggles and buy NFL ST VR from Apple. NBA, MLB, NHL, Soccer, Tennis, Olympics, racing, etc, etc, etc.
 
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That seems obvious to me as subscription services, which Apple is very clearly on the record of wanting to grow.

I doubt it would be as cheap as $5 or $10 with Apple involved (maybe a single game sampler), but I could see new versions of packages like NFL Sunday Ticket priced at the traditional levels for a 2D TV screen experience UPPED to get Apple its margin and appealing to some of the millions who easily lays out the money for the existing version of NFL ST.

Spread that to college sports, the other pro sports, broadway seasons, Cirque, concert packages, etc.

I would have ZERO expectations that this would lead to empty stadiums/venues/etc... just as existing offerings like NFL ST didn't lead to empty stadiums. But I can VERY easily seeing this as a "killer app" for Goggles too... for those who- say- love their favorite team live but just can't be there... or love broadway seasons but can't easily get to NYC, etc.
I'm sure it will tie in to almost all existing subscription services. I wouldn't be surprised if they launch a new one focused on XR too. I could see attending a live concert or sporting event a service. Especially if Apple manages to make them full light-field experiences (you can move around in them a bit) and not just 360 video. I'd love to see a hologram of a miniature football field on my armrest where I could get a close look at all the plays and rewind or fast-forward while watching the game. In fact size doesn't really matter in XR. You could have a band playing on a stage on your table top or be a towering giant in the stands at a game. Possibly you could have a seat literally in the middle of the field if they can figure out a camera rig or method of digital reconstruction.
 
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These rumors can’t decide if they are talking about AR or VR. Even within a paragraph they jump from one thing to another. Use physical keyboard and drink your tea/coffee while using VR desktop. Sure. Visor up, visor down, visor up, visor down. Totally user friendly.

Thanks for that excellent feedback! You can choose between the following array of options to alleviate your concerns:

1. Get a straw and put the tea/coffee on ice.
2. Drink your beverage prior to employing your $3,000 glasses. This will be hard since iced coffees really come with the territory of privilege, self-entitlement, and the resources to even afford this product.
3. Buy AppleCare and use a funnel.
4. Have a friend or family member with really good aim assist you.
5. See attached.
 

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Cool! Nice to see the extra Mac displays feature from the Quest 2 is making it into Apple Reality

For the cost though...you're better off just getting a Quest 2 if you plan on using a VR/AR HMD as external monitors.
 
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