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Apple's New 27-Inch iMacs Experiencing Performance Issues?

Delivery Delay for Quad Cores

Does anyone know what the delay is with the delivery of Quad Core iMacs. All Apple could tell me was "sometime in November". Very frustrating .... I was really looking forward to getting my new machine.
 

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DoFoT9 said:
farewell :)

can i ask, how hard are you on your hardware? dad has a 5/6year old iBook thats running fine. my 3+ year old MBP is fine aesthetically, hell even our 10+ year old original iMac is still going perfectly.

the iphone is pretty boring and just a toy - thus why i use a nokia business phone :D

anyway, goodluck with it.
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well i AM pretty hard on computers, and i won't put all the blame on apple, but i think their design elements make things, like laptops, warp, distort, and fail from heat, even if apple isn't to blame, the point being is that they're expensive, and i can buy newer things for cheaper...and as for the 'he's an idiot' implication from other people, i'm an MCSE CNA, i'm not dumb, i prefer apple in most scenarios, my point is that i feel like apple is stagnent, i feel like even tho they're making tons of money its 'stick with what works' i fell in love with the apple that was making new things, i don't see that happening now... spare me the tablet rumors..
 
Peace said:
So judging by the posts of 3 or 4 people here who seem to represent the "recent switcher" group we can expect Apple Mac sales to plummet next time Apple releases numbers for a quarter ?

Or do these people not actually represent the "massive" amount of dissatisfied customers ?

You wanna know what it actually is? This phenomenon of massive problems cropping up everywhere ?

It's an old saying by coders. Some here will understand. Some won't.

Garbage In , Garbage Out. Protoplasm.
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it won't plummet rapidly, apple is a hot fad at best right now, judging by how i've seen first adopters, including myself, drop the iphone for better devices now, i don't think the surge in apple product sales are likely to be anything other than curious onlookers, buying the current whatever. i personally think snow leopard is a far better OS than windows 7, if apple released true native support for x86 it would change the entire computing world and microsoft would be, well, ****ed, to put it politely. it bothers me that they aren't.
 
Peace said:
Did ya miss this part Aiden ?

"Blame Apple: If Apple had not discontinued the 64-bit port of Carbon, Adobe could have shipped Photoshop CS4 as a 64-bit Mac OS X application as planned. At WWDC 2006, there were many sessions about developing 64-bit Carbon applications. At WWDC 2007, 64-bit Carbon was canceled. Adobe found this out the same time everyone else did, at WWDC. By canceling 64-bit Carbon so suddenly, Apple screwed Adobe.

Blame Adobe: The death of Carbon was inevitable. Adobe should have seen it coming and planned accordingly. It's been clear for years that Cocoa offers many advantages to Mac application developers. Adobe should have started its Cocoa port of Photoshop years ago. By willfully ignoring Cocoa for so long, Adobe screwed Apple."

With the transition to Intel everybody should have seen this coming.
Not just Apple.
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Then there was also the continuous harping on and on about Cocoa and XCode, every year since XCode was released there was a constant drumming into people to start migrating. Again and again this was repeated every where - it wasn't as though it was a secret that no one knew about. If an operating system vendor strong suggests at EVERY conference and EVERY piece of information given out to transition to Cocoa - maybe it is a strong hint that you should do like wise.
 
AidenShaw said:
Yes, the "$339 MSI *might* be ok" but the $2199 "i7 iMac is a pretty good deal".

If you need a quad core i7 and also need a big screen LCD, the i7 Imac isn't that bad.

Otherwise, it kind of sucks compared to $799 i7 minitowers that are easy to find.
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So you go and buy the $799 i7 minitower. What's the problem?
 
Trying again...

I'm still looking for some advice on this (reposted) because I was about to order a new 21" iMac:

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1.) Is it a driver issue where a simple update can fix the problem?

2.) Is the problem on iMacs with ATi or Nvidia cards, regardless of size (21 or 27")?

3.) Should I hold off on purchasing a new 21" iMac (I was going to get the ATI model)?

thanks
 
Macallan82 said:
This has typically been the case for Apple's first generation of their newly updated hardware. I bought the aluminum iMac the first week they were released and then Apple issued a firmware update for the graphics card, which rendered it useless. It would freeze 2 minutes after startup. Does anyone remember that.

This is unfortunate for people that made the switch by purchasing these new machines. Hang in there guys. :)
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I quite agree, I had one of the first iMac 24inch that was released. It was quite problematical particularly as it would not run bootcamp which was beta in those days. After a year of complaining as Apple did not officially support bootcamp, they swapped the logic board and it was fine.

I believe it is always better to wait a while with new products, as there are always revisions of motherboards etc as not all probs can be fixed by new software released
take care.
 
inkswamp said:
I'm curious to see if this user answers your questions. I doubt it. Silly, isn't it? I've been on Macrumors for years and it's only been in the last couple that I've noticed the incessant stream of so-called Mac users bailing out on the entire company because they've become evil and their products have declined in quality and blah blah blah. And they always have these unlikely sounding horror stories of how every Apple product they bought died and Apple was soooo mean and nasty to them about it.

Funny thing is that Apple's products and service have never been better. I've been using Macs since the early 90s and I've seen it for myself. Apple's at the top of their game right now. I've never seen so much interest in Macs amongst my Windows-using friends as I see right now.

I don't find it even remotely difficult to believe that there's an astroturfing effort happening on Mac sites. It's hard to think otherwise. These posts are always so fakey sounding and it's always these people who have joined Macrumors in the last year who are throwing these hissy fits and jumping ship.

Garsh... it's so believable. :rolleyes:
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Apple service I will not disagree on, if you are talking about products, sure they are really nice, but the QA is *****. In the last 24 months I have bought an Air, 24" LED and MBP 17", my third Air I Kept, it was not till the second MBP that I kept. The 24" LED had it logic board replaced. On a good note, I own each generation Ipod and Iphone, and they are going strong.

My GF owns a new MB, her power supply died , and two key have fallen off the KB.

Got both my housemates to switch to macs this year. First one bought a MBP 17" and had to replace it 4 times to to blantant defects (scratches). He opened 3 instore, the Apple sales guy was embarrassed.

On Sat, my other housemate bought a 27" Imac, dead pixels and stuffed speaker out of the box.

So how many Apple products have you bought in the last 24 months to back up your Apple is at the top of the game right now.
 
joemama said:
I'm still looking for some advice on this (reposted) because I was about to order a new 21" iMac:

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1.) Is it a driver issue where a simple update can fix the problem?

2.) Is the problem on iMacs with ATi or Nvidia cards, regardless of size (21 or 27")?

3.) Should I hold off on purchasing a new 21" iMac (I was going to get the ATI model)?

thanks
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Hi,

Personally I would never recommend buying a 1st generation of any product. Every newly released product gets "tested" by the people who bought them. This goes for Apple, Toyota, etc. Wait, at least, the the next revision so Apple can work the kinks out. That is if you can wait until March 2010...

s.
 
RogueWarrior65 said:
Flash was, is, and always will be sh*t technology. How it managed to garner such wide acceptance is beyond me.
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The problem isn't with Flash though, if I play a game (without ever having a browser open) I can reproduce the issue
 
joemama said:
I'm still looking for some advice on this (reposted) because I was about to order a new 21" iMac:

----

1.) Is it a driver issue where a simple update can fix the problem?

2.) Is the problem on iMacs with ATi or Nvidia cards, regardless of size (21 or 27")?

3.) Should I hold off on purchasing a new 21" iMac (I was going to get the ATI model)?
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I have the same questions since I'm considering a new 27", so here are my answers.
The problems are related to Snow Leopard being not quite compatible with other software. To prove that, I went back to Leopard 10.5.8 last night and I can confirm: all beachballs, freezings and random crashes are gone (on my 2008 MacBook).
Today I called AppleStore and the tech guy confirmed my theory. The problems have nothing to do with Apple's hardware, they are related to the complexity of the 64 transition.
I asked him if the new iMacs can run on anything prior to Snow Leopard and the answer is YES, it's OK with Leopard and even Tiger. But you have to find a non specific version of Mac OS X, i.e. not a copy of Leopard used for another Mac, but the "Retail" version of Leopard (and make sure you format the drive before installing, not just erase).
In other words, it's quite OK to buy a new iMac now. You can either live with the slowdowns in Snow Leopard or install your own Leopard. That is: until Apple and other developers iron out all the difficulties (which in my opinion could take at least 2-3 months).
My 2 cents, for what they're worth.
 
inkswamp said:
I don't find it even remotely difficult to believe that there's an astroturfing effort happening on Mac sites. It's hard to think otherwise.
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Pfft, astroturfing. Un-possible. You need to PM AidenShaw. He'll send you a complimentary "The Wow Starts Now" tinfoil hat, an "I Hate Apple" t-shirt (your choice of red, blue, yellow or green), a link to a free 90-day trial for Windows 7, and a fully-specced Dell order form custom-configured to your personal needs. ;)
 
emmablee said:
Does anyone know what the delay is with the delivery of Quad Core iMacs. All Apple could tell me was "sometime in November". Very frustrating .... I was really looking forward to getting my new machine.
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Technically, there is no "delay." On the day the new iMacs were announced, Apple stated the Quad-Cores would ship in November. So, they could ship anytime within the next four weeks.

The common belief as to why the Quad-Cores did not ship immediately is because Apple is waiting on getting the ATI Radeon HD 4850. This theory can be tested by custom building an iMac 27" C2D and upgrading the graphics to the 4850, at which time the ship date changes to November.
 
rmg007 said:
The common belief as to why the Quad-Cores did not ship immediately is because Apple is waiting on getting the ATI Radeon HD 4850.
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Huh? The 4850 has been available since the last revision (the 24" iMac I'm on right now has a 4850). :confused:
 
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