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Huh? The 4850 has been available since the last revision (the 24" iMac I'm on right now has a 4850). :confused:

The 4850 is in high demand.
 

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The 4850 is in high demand.
Supposedly Apple grabbed up a huge portion of the remaining 4850 stock.

It's getting much harder this month to pick up the third revision 4850 desktop cards. It looks like the 4770 is going to fill that price gap for now.

ATI is going full steam on 40nm. The mobility components might be all that's left of 55nm.
 
Not "remaining stock" meaning the product is EOL I hope?
The RV770 Pro (4850) line has been superseded by the 5750/5770 at those price points. While the newer cards aren't a significant improvement in raw performance they're going to be the only options soon enough. Desktop RV770 is EOL. Mobile derivations coming soon.

Last month it was 4850 at ~$100 galore. Today it's a few cards left and the ones that people didn't want to buy. It's slower on the mobile side but ATI is moving to the Mobility HD 5000 line much faster than I thought.
 
In the meantime..... that's gotta hurt!

Yes! Its a catch 22 situation. If I open it and it as performance issues than I'm stuck with a less than par machine and if I take it back after that, I'm charged a 10% stocking fee.

So, I'm keeping it in the box unopened so that I can take it back within the 14 day return policy if Apple does not acknowledge or address these issues.
 
Apple service I will not disagree on, if you are talking about products, sure they are really nice, but the QA is *****. In the last 24 months I have bought an Air, 24" LED and MBP 17", my third Air I Kept, it was not till the second MBP that I kept. The 24" LED had it logic board replaced. On a good note, I own each generation Ipod and Iphone, and they are going strong.

My GF owns a new MB, her power supply died , and two key have fallen off the KB.

Got both my housemates to switch to macs this year. First one bought a MBP 17" and had to replace it 4 times to to blantant defects (scratches). He opened 3 instore, the Apple sales guy was embarrassed.

On Sat, my other housemate bought a 27" Imac, dead pixels and stuffed speaker out of the box.

So how many Apple products have you bought in the last 24 months to back up your Apple is at the top of the game right now.

I bought a 24" iMac about 18 months ago and it's been fantastic, best Mac I've ever owned. Employer got me and my dept. iPhones and they've been amazing, flawless. I also administer about 2 dozen Macs where I work and we bought 10 new MacPros about 2+ years ago and there hasn't been a single hardware problem with any of them. Wish I could say the same about the PCs but they're constantly having hardware problems, even the newers ones. (If I see another cheap-ass integrated NIC die on a Dell, I'm going to @#$%&* puke.)

Anyway, you and I could go around and around with anecdotal evidence but if you look it up, you'll see plenty of third parties confirming that Apple's hardware and service are ranking very high nowadays, occasional gaffes notwithstanding.
 
You know what's striking about all this? There are so few issues like with with OS X which is the only reason we're getting this kind of reaction. It's like that old saying in journalism about how it's only news if it's unusual. Windows has a mountain of little issues like this, so many that nobody ever stops and freaks out when something like this occurs because it's never freakin' news. They all just carry on like nothing happened.

Here's a prime example featuring one of my favorite Windows blowtards, Rob Enderle (who is introduced as an "independent pundit"... bwhahaha...)

If this little multi-touch glitch had happened with a Mac, it would be front page news. In the world of Windows... the sound of crickets. It's remarkable to me that Enderle doesn't even react to the crappy multi-touch on PCs and instead resorts to vaguely snide comments about Apple.
 
I have the same questions since I'm considering a new 27", so here are my answers.
The problems are related to Snow Leopard being not quite compatible with other software. To prove that, I went back to Leopard 10.5.8 last night and I can confirm: all beachballs, freezings and random crashes are gone (on my 2008 MacBook).
Today I called AppleStore and the tech guy confirmed my theory. The problems have nothing to do with Apple's hardware, they are related to the complexity of the 64 transition.
I asked him if the new iMacs can run on anything prior to Snow Leopard and the answer is YES, it's OK with Leopard and even Tiger. But you have to find a non specific version of Mac OS X, i.e. not a copy of Leopard used for another Mac, but the "Retail" version of Leopard (and make sure you format the drive before installing, not just erase).
In other words, it's quite OK to buy a new iMac now. You can either live with the slowdowns in Snow Leopard or install your own Leopard. That is: until Apple and other developers iron out all the difficulties (which in my opinion could take at least 2-3 months).
My 2 cents, for what they're worth.

Thanks for the feedback. What you say makes sense, but then the question becomes, "How come this issue doesn't affect all new iMacs?" Reportedly, this issue isn't happening to everyone.

We are running Tiger anyways, and all computers in the lab will be upgraded to SL later in the year. Maybe by then Apple will have it all figured out.
 
You know what's striking about all this? There are so few issues like with with OS X which is the only reason we're getting this kind of reaction. It's like that old saying in journalism about how it's only news if it's unusual. Windows has a mountain of little issues like this, so many that nobody ever stops and freaks out when something like this occurs because it's never freakin' news. They all just carry on like nothing happened.

Here's a prime example featuring one of my favorite Windows blowtards, Rob Enderle (who is introduced as an "independent pundit"... bwhahaha...)

If this little multi-touch glitch had happened with a Mac, it would be front page news. In the world of Windows... the sound of crickets. It's remarkable to me that Enderle doesn't even react to the crappy multi-touch on PCs and instead resorts to vaguely snide comments about Apple.

When your OS is unable to run on majority of the hardware in the market except obsolete graphics card and your worldwide marketshare is a tiny 4%, ofcourse there will be less complaints because there are far less users who do things the Apple way; majority of the people in the world including some of world's biggest corporations do things the Microsoft way. Gates won; Jobs lost and none of those Get a Mac ads are ever gonna change that!

And yeah it's funny that expect people to shut up about the issues of their hardware because the mighty Apple hall not be criticized. If your hardware is faulty, then shut up and a buy a new one!
 
A temporary "fix" for this Flash problem, which is something i always use anyway, is ClickToFlash. Blocks Flash unless you specifically enable it and it makes YouTube videos H.264 too. :)

Yeah, and block about 40% of all internet content.

The Flash movie mentioned here runs at CPU 0% to 3% in IE8 in Windows 7. In Safari in Mac OS 10.6.1, the same video makes the CPU go up to 77%!

BTW, Safari has problem with Flash both on Mac and in Windows (see this post.) Every other browser I tested with the same movie, did considerably better than Safari, on both platforms.

Which finally caused me to spend a couple of hours yesterday, to get rid of Safari on the Macs I use at home, as well as on my HTPC. Firefox 3.6 Beta runs circles around Safari, IMO - and I can skin it to look like Safari :)

I am so sick of this pointless bitching about Flash, by a few of the backroom crowd. Flash is very useful, it's used by virtually everyone on the planet, and is here to stay for the foreseeable future. It is up to Apple to make sure it's products are optimized to run Flash well, and to work with Adobe to accomplish this. Instead of ignoring it, and leaving its users to exist as second-class citizens. Or without it all together, like on the iPhone.

And stop railing against Adobe. The bottom line is, if Adobe stopped developing CS for the Mac tomorrow, Mac sales would die.
 
(If I see another cheap-ass integrated NIC die on a Dell, I'm going to @#$%&* puke.

My mac pro has an intel nic and I've got various dell desktops and workstations that all have intel nics - they're all decent.
I'm not sure what the current pro or the rest of the mac lineup has now, but I'm pretty sure most of them have switched chipsets - I certainly know which I'd prefer.
 
When your OS is unable to run on majority of the hardware in the market except obsolete graphics card and your worldwide marketshare is a tiny 4%, ofcourse there will be less complaints because there are far less users who do things the Apple way; majority of the people in the world including some of world's biggest corporations do things the Microsoft way. Gates won; Jobs lost and none of those Get a Mac ads are ever gonna change that!

And yeah it's funny that expect people to shut up about the issues of their hardware because the mighty Apple hall not be criticized. If your hardware is faulty, then shut up and a buy a new one!

I have to say I laughed so hard at the video inkswap posted. You see this is a clear example of anti-MS fanboyism, not even Apple fanboyism. A simple thing just like that, completely blown out of proportion just because you dislike MS.

It's sad actually. :(
 
When your OS is unable to run on majority of the hardware in the market except obsolete graphics card and your worldwide marketshare is a tiny 4%, ofcourse there will be less complaints because there are far less users who do things the Apple way; majority of the people in the world including some of world's biggest corporations do things the Microsoft way. Gates won; Jobs lost and none of those Get a Mac ads are ever gonna change that!

And yeah it's funny that expect people to shut up about the issues of their hardware because the mighty Apple hall not be criticized. If your hardware is faulty, then shut up and a buy a new one!

Nothing you posted has any bearing on the point I was making.

I love when people don't read your entire post before responding or aren't following things closely enough to get the context and therefore the actual point being made. Speaking of which...

How does this relate to the poor performance issues reported on the new iMac 27 inches?

:rolleyes:

I have to say I laughed so hard at the video inkswap posted. You see this is a clear example of anti-MS fanboyism, not even Apple fanboyism. A simple thing just like that, completely blown out of proportion just because you dislike MS.

It's sad actually. :(

Gees, you guys don't read very carefully. My point was exactly that: nobody made a big deal out of that incident. I wasn't posting it to make a big deal out of it but to demonstrate a point. If it had happened on a Mac, holy crap... it would signal the end of the platform as we all know it and there were be a flood of MS fanboys here screaming about how "Macs just work" and how Apple's hardware is all junk. But if it's Windows, well... no big deal. It was just par for the course. Didn't you notice how quick Enderle was to start making comments about Apple? It's like SOP for most of these guys.
 
I think we should start testing for loyalty when registering for MacRumors so we can prevent traitors liek AidenShaw and Wakashizuma from sullying :apple:'s good name!

Edit: what are you doing here anyways?
 
I have to say I laughed so hard at the video inkswap posted. You see this is a clear example of anti-MS fanboyism, not even Apple fanboyism. A simple thing just like that, completely blown out of proportion just because you dislike MS.

It's sad actually. :(

"Blown out of proportion" eh...how so exactly?

The joke here is that Rob Enderle is an infamous anti-Apple shill who masquerades as an "independent analyst" but in fact has recently been under the employ of Dell (at least, maybe others). That sort of kills his "independent analyst" credentials, though he will continue to wave that title like a banner of truth.

And it is funny because he's proudly trying to demonstrate a feature cribbed from a device from a company he hates (Apple) and that demo falls on its face.

"Look how cool this is! Oh wait - crap! Oh well, it's cool when it works. Let's move on. Um, well, yes, it is a lot like a feature made popular by another company, one whose name I can't even bring myself to say because it so fills me with rage and loathing."

Personally, I think the clip is comedy gold. :D

Sidenote: has the demo snafu tripped up others, including Steve Jobs? Of course. But to my recollection Jobs hasn't proudly (but unsuccessfully) tried to demo something he took from Microsoft. ;)
 
I think we should start testing for loyalty when registering for MacRumors so we can prevent traitors liek AidenShaw and Wakashizuma from sullying :apple:'s good name!

This is the classic straw man argument consistently used by said agitators. No one here argues that Apple is beyond criticism. Not even close. In fact, Apple's harshest critics are its own customers. That said, why full-time trolls are allowed to ignite the flamewars on this forum on a perpetual basis defies explanation.

If you hate Apple, you hate their products, and you think Microsoft and Dell provide better alternatives - great, enjoy your platform of choice. But this obviously is not the forum for you.

And frankly, the rest of us tire of the incessant whining/bombthrowing/astroturfing/whatever.
 
"Blown out of proportion" eh...how so exactly?

The joke here is that Rob Enderle is an infamous anti-Apple shill who masquerades as an "independent analyst" but in fact has recently been under the employ of Dell (at least, maybe others). That sort of kills his "independent analyst" credentials, though he will continue to wave that title like a banner of truth.

And it is funny because he's proudly trying to demonstrate a feature cribbed from a device from a company he hates (Apple) and that demo falls on its face.

"Look how cool this is! Oh wait - crap! Oh well, it's cool when it works. Let's move on. Um, well, yes, it is a lot like a feature made popular by another company, one whose name I can't even bring myself to say because it so fills me with rage and loathing."

Personally, I think the clip is comedy gold. :D

Sidenote: has the demo snafu tripped up others, including Steve Jobs? Of course. But to my recollection Jobs hasn't proudly (but unsuccessfully) tried to demo something he took from Microsoft. ;)

Oh wait so you are saying Apple created multi touch....

Ah... I find it a bit ironic that you keep whining about ridiculous concepts such as "astro-surfers" or "full time trolls" yet you keep making statements such as that one which are clearly biased, and well, wrong.

I think the Windows 98 BSOD is comedy gold. This, this is very meh, just a gesture that didn't work. Protip: try one of those multi-touch PC before you assume they all suck or it is MS fault.
 
Oh wait so you are saying Apple created multi touch....

I'm not saying this at all, but Enderle clearly gives credit for this particular implementation to the company that makes him foam at the mouth.

Ah... I find it a bit ironic that you keep whining about ridiculous concepts such as "astro-surfers" or "full time trolls" yet you keep making statements such as that one which are clearly biased, and well, wrong.

Astroturfing is a "ridiculous concept?" Uh huh. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.

As for my "wrong" statement that Apple invented multitouch - I said nothing of the sort. Again, Microsoft's copy of Apple's implementation is confirmed by Enderle himself.

Protip: try one of those multi-touch PC before you assume they all suck or it is MS fault.

Protip: don't assume I assume anything of the sort. I've never tried a multi-touch PC and I have no opinion about them. Nor do I imply that I do in my comment.

I can say I've never had to try five times to enlarge a photo on my iPhone before it actually worked.
 
This is the classic straw man argument consistently used by said agitators. No one here argues that Apple is beyond criticism. Not even close. In fact, Apple's harshest critics are its own customers. That said, why full-time trolls are allowed to ignite the flamewars on this forum on a perpetual basis defies explanation.

If you hate Apple, you hate their products, and you think Microsoft and Dell provide better alternatives - great, enjoy your platform of choice. But this obviously is not the forum for you.

And frankly, the rest of us tire of the incessant whining/bombthrowing/astroturfing/whatever.

Is this a joke?

Apple's customers are of the most brian washed and snobby out there; they never criticize their favorite company. The would go as far as blaming themlseves first before saying anything negative about Apple; even they if they dare to speak then someone body else like the guy above will come and expect them to shut up!

"Blown out of proportion" eh...how so exactly?

The joke here is that Rob Enderle is an infamous anti-Apple shill who masquerades as an "independent analyst" but in fact has recently been under the employ of Dell (at least, maybe others). That sort of kills his "independent analyst" credentials, though he will continue to wave that title like a banner of truth.

And it is funny because he's proudly trying to demonstrate a feature cribbed from a device from a company he hates (Apple) and that demo falls on its face.

"Look how cool this is! Oh wait - crap! Oh well, it's cool when it works. Let's move on. Um, well, yes, it is a lot like a feature made popular by another company, one whose name I can't even bring myself to say because it so fills me with rage and loathing."

Personally, I think the clip is comedy gold. :D

Sidenote: has the demo snafu tripped up others, including Steve Jobs? Of course. But to my recollection Jobs hasn't proudly (but unsuccessfully) tried to demo something he took from Microsoft. ;)

Gates won the battle, get over it. Jobs can play with his iPo Hifi all he wants (he said that he replaced his audio system with iPod Hifi), but he still lost the battle. Over %90 of the world keep saying no to Apple on consistent basis
 
Why I still get your blubbering via email notifications despite the fact you're deservedly on my Ignore list is beyond me, but I do have to reply to this latest tripe if only to nominate this little gem for Most Ignorant Comment Of The Month:

Apple's customers are of the most brian washed and snobby out there; they never criticize their favorite company.

(Emphasis mine.)
 
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