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Apple's New 27-Inch iMacs Experiencing Performance Issues?

bobob said:
Perhaps two or three months after the new model came out would have been a safer recommendation for a mac newbie...
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When did Apple ever release an updated Mac 3-months after? The ONLY time Apple did that was the MacPro, 3 months later discontinued one processor model and release a new one in January.
 
That is supposed to be a NEWS bit!?

It's known that the flash performance be it on Tiger, Leopard or SL is ABYSMAL.

Nothing new. No pressure from Apple on Adobe either. :rolleyes:

For everyone who cares here's a bug thread on Adobe forums commenting heavily on the issue:

http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-890
 
For the fan boy's that try to put all the blame on Adobe, here's what the YouTube submitter had to say on the issue:

"You guys can bash Adobe for their past problems, but this particular issue is all on Apple."

Why? Because it's an AirPort issue.
 
AirPort issue? Well then it must be affecting all the Macs... :rolleyes: It IS Adobe issue and it is a known error BUT they're NOT willing to address it anytime soon as stated by an Adobe technician assigned to the Mac issue.

Reading comprehension is vital.
 
TheLimpOne said:
For the fan boy's that try to put all the blame on Adobe, here's what the YouTube submitter had to say on the issue:

"You guys can bash Adobe for their past problems, but this particular issue is all on Apple."

Why? Because it's an AirPort issue.
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Thank you. I posted that it was an Airport issue a few pages back and nobody seemed to notice. Disable Airport and the problem is fixed until Apple fixes it for good. This also does not just affect Flash (which does suck, but that's another issue entirely), but 3D games as well. Go take a peek into the WoW Mac support forum.
 
Flash is terrible. And not just because of this problem.

Any time I see that a company site or famous person's site is Flash based I cringe. There's a reason Wikipedia is so popular. It it mostly text based with photos. Flash is cumbersome and kludgy. It's all style and no substance. Is there a way to get fewer ideas or less information per square centimeter of screen real estate than Flash? I think not.

I can't think of one web site that has been improved by flash. I applaud Apple for pushing HTML 5 and its reluctance to put Flash in the iPhone.
 
Drzed said:
We wish we could do that....but when 90% of the websites out there are using it, including internet banking sites, we have no way to avoid it.

Yes it is bloatware and the single most painful experience even in the fastest computer systems but it has infiltrated the web like cancer and it's not going anywhere anytime soon...so saying 'don't use it' isn't really an option
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Almost none of the (popular) websites I visit uses Flash as a core feature...and for those who do have something, you're just one click away with Click2Flash...as for Internet banking sites using Flash, this is pretty much unheard of...no sane bank would employ that craptastic technology...I am glad to say that mine doesn't, of course.
 
mabaker said:
AirPort issue? Well then it must be affecting all the Macs... :rolleyes: It IS Adobe issue and it is a known error BUT they're NOT willing to address it anytime soon as stated by an Adobe technician assigned to the Mac issue.

Reading comprehension is vital.
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It IS an Airport issue. It ONLY affects 4670 models. The problem is likely some screwball conflict between the drivers for each. A very similar problem happened with the 4850 iMacs when they first came out. Random lockups until Airport was disabled. Apple later fixed the issue with a firmware update. Don't just wave it off. People are reporting that disabling Airport fixes the issue. Why would it only affect 4670s if it was an Adobe problem? There's something wrong with the driver or the hardware.

Logical thought is vital.
 
Rocketman said:
ADBE has a 17.3B market cap, a 26.2 PE ratio, and the EPS growth rate for a few years is about 15%.

Apple is not going to buy it.

Rocketman
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Apple has a 170 billion cap, a PE ratio higher than Adobe's and lower EPS estimations; not to mention more than 30 billion in cash alone...they could easily buy Adobe and throw it to the dogs, or even make some money out of it with innovative products...what are you talking about?
 
Hey guys, OP of the video here.

Since the problem has been picked up by engadget and macrumors, apple engineers have been contacting me and others directly to try and get this problem resolved (funny that it took a week after reporting the problem to applecare for this to happen...)

The latest word is that its directly related to the Airport in some of the new macs. Restarting airport, or anything that does this (reboot, sleep/wake) fixes the problem for 20 - 30 mins. Not a good solution, but they at least know where the problem is starting, so we should get a proper fix soon.

Alternatively you can connect to your network via ethernet (or to an airport base station if you have one) and turn wireless off, also resolving the problem until the patch is released.

Everyone's bashing Adobe, and with good reason considering their track record, but this problem looks like its all Apple.
 
Damn you guys are quick. You picked up my edits in the time it took me to register on this forum. lol good work!
 
ValSalva said:
Flash is terrible. And not just because of this problem.

Any time I see that a company site or famous person's site is Flash based I cringe. There's a reason Wikipedia is so popular. It it mostly text based with photos. Flash is cumbersome and kludgy. It's all style and no substance. Is there a way to get fewer ideas or less information per square centimeter of screen real estate than Flash? I think not.

I can't think of one web site that has been improved by flash. I applaud Apple for pushing HTML 5 and its reluctance to put Flash in the iPhone.
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What, you've never watched a youtube video, hulu, or played a flash game? There's a reason those are done in flash.

Behomoth studios (Castle Crashers, Alien Hominid) makes awesome flash games:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/254456
 
macUser2007 said:
This is just stupid.

First of all, Flash is a lot more than ads, and a lot of the cooler sites are either entirely in flash, or use it heavily.

Second, if everyone blocked these "crappy drop-down ads that you NEVER wanna see," most sites will ether disappear, or demand payment to view them. And this includes MacRumors.

As I said, just stupid.
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Well, you seem to master BS then...you should first define what "cool" is.

I truly hope sites look for better revenue streams than imposing stupid Flash ads on us; besides, sites with ads make money only if you click on them...otherwise it's irrelevant if you see them or not.

And if MR ever starts demanding payment, I will be one of the first to stop visiting it...plugins such as Click2Flash are here to stay, because people are just fed up. If you still don't get it, go check VersionTracker and see what rating that software gets.
 
Durendal said:
It IS an Airport issue. It ONLY affects 4670 models. The problem is likely some screwball conflict between the drivers for each. A very similar problem happened with the 4850 iMacs when they first came out. Random lockups until Airport was disabled. Apple later fixed the issue with a firmware update. Don't just wave it off. People are reporting that disabling Airport fixes the issue. Why would it only affect 4670s if it was an Adobe problem? There's something wrong with the driver or the hardware.

Logical thought is vital.
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The flash performance on macs in general is bad and it#s been already acknowledged by Adobe.

And I truly don't see a difference in flash performance whether it's using 95% (without the airport issue) of the CPU or 100% (with the airport issue).
 
Lesser Evets said:
If I can run flash well on a 2002 Power Mac, there is no excuse it on why can't run on a new iMac. There's probably a simple way to deal with the problem, like reinstalling software and OS, etc.
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Clearly you're running a different Flash than the rest of us do.

My 5 year old visits cartoon websites and most of the Flash games are so slow they're completely unplayable. It's so bad she doesn't even want to use the computer any more. Her rig is a 1.2GHz G4 with maxed out RAM and a Radeon 9000 video card.
 
PeterQVenkman said:
What, you've never watched a youtube video, hulu, or played a flash game? There's a reason those are done in flash.

Behomoth studios (Castle Crashers, Alien Hominid) makes awesome flash games:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/254456
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With HTML 5 video can be directly embedded within a web page without the need for Flash. Hopefully that will be the future. You are right though. Until now video streaming and gaming have been the only good things about Flash.

It's all the unnecessary web site flourishes such as Flash animations, buttons, picture galleries, etc. that are so kludgy.
 
Since it is on Apple discussion boards, it might be Microsoft employees trying to counter-attack Apple's product refresh just prior to 7's release. I haven't noticed any issues on my new 27-inch iMac.
 
I'm a die hard mac fan, but I think several companies could be to blame

Apple maybe a bug in snow leopard, after all its still early days and there are a lot of new technologies with this release, alot of people may think its like Leopard visually, but under the hood its quite different.

ATI could be to blame possible faulty batch of graphics cards, but I suspect Adobe, I don't get flash issues on my macs, but I would prefer it if youtube for example did adapt quicktime codec, encodes more vivid and better quality than flash can manage in my opinion.
 
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