People who are not using Flash are experiencing this, I asked in the other thread (plus the seemingly unrelated screen issues).
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People who are not using Flash are experiencing this, I asked in the other thread (plus the seemingly unrelated screen issues).
No pressure from Apple on Adobe either.
You don't know that..
I'm quite sure that Apple must be very annoyed at getting thousands of error reports a minute caused by Flash. Actually 95% of all error reports that get sent from my machine are caused by Flash.
Did not see anything in the video.
Your post says numerous complaints, some people will complain just to complain and than you have some that just want to join the crowd and have no idea of what the problem is.
Out of all the people that are more than likely say " Yea I had that problem since I got it " How many are actually going to pack it up and take it to the genius or ship it out before asking the obvious question " Should I take this back to the Apple store "?
Seriously? Could you not see the lagging and the sound distortion?
I don't care if it is Adobe's fault or Apple's. The same video in youtube works very well on my Windows 7 Pro computer. I have been waiting for the right deal to buy an Apple. I thought that was it. I am interested in the 27' iMac, but I think that I should consider that a lot more seriously. I have heard about more bugs in SL than in Windows 7. I don't to pay 2000 dollars for a machine that can be great for some stuff and mediocre for other simple stuff like running Flash. There is also the bug that deletes your files if you are using a guest account.
Welcome to the World of PowerPC!...
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
Yes. And if not, it uses up an inordinate amount of system resources and causes your cooling fans to kick on.
Apple not being able to get Flash to run properly on OSX is kind of pathetic. Their apathetic attitude towards fixing it is even more disconcerting.
What's with the focus on Flash? As per above and in the other thread, people are experiencing this issue who are not running Flash.
The apparent reason people seem to be focusing on Flash is to place the blame on Adobe, for many seemingly because they can't bear the thought that this is an Apple problem.
In any event, IMHO, Flash should not be able to corrupt the OS - you should be able to kill the Flash process and have everything go back to normal even if Flash itself hoses. If it's hosing the OS, then Apple has a problem as well. And in any event, if half of the sites on the web or other ordinary use will cause obvious problems on the machine, this seems like something Apple QA should have noticed if they were testing the machines reasonably.
The apparent reason people seem to be focusing on Flash is to place the blame on Adobe, for many seemingly because they can't bear the thought that this is an Apple problem.
In any event, IMHO, Flash should not be able to corrupt the OS - you should be able to kill the Flash process and have everything go back to normal even if Flash itself hoses. If it's hosing the OS, then Apple has a problem as well. And in any event, if half of the sites on the web or other ordinary use will cause obvious problems on the machine, this seems like something Apple QA should have noticed if they were testing the machines reasonably.
Ugh, I hope it goes smoother than CSS.
Actually, I would have very few issues with CSS if I didn't have to support any MS browsers...
This is kind of interesting to me, because on my MacBook Air (rev 2) I've noticed in the past few days that Flash performance in Safari is truly abysmal, as in claymation cinematography slow - it didn't used to be. Flash still plays fine in Firefox, however.
I know the original story is about the new big iMacs; but I wonder if perhaps there's an issue it's not actually tied to just that hardware.
I know the original story is about the new big iMacs; but I wonder if perhaps there's an issue it's not actually tied to just that hardware.
Ummm... No. It's real. Glad it's gotten attention. I thought I'd be left with this being an issue for a long time, but there's a pretty good chance someone will respond with action now.
But yeah, this doesn't really look good for Apple, regardless of whose is to blame. Hearing Mac switch commercials telling the headaches of moving to windows 7, only to end up having problems with moving to new Macs.
Funny thing though, my friend's 64-bit Windows 7 box has problems with flash too. I watched as his system froze on a fullscreen video, and his only recourse was to press the power button. So yeah, flash sucks.
Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
PowerPC is dead. It is no longer even part of the Apple discussion. It is unsupported legacy-ware.
Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
Flash isnt very good on the Mac, let alone on PowerPC. You're G5 is outclassed many times over by even the cheapest Mac Mini. Time to upgrade!
Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
Mental illness?
Yes and it's also an abortion on Linux.
Poor Flash and this is Apple's problem?
Earth calling Adobe, come in Adobe.
Welcome to the World of PowerPC Snow Leopard users!
Almost all of these problems have persisted on Leopard 10.5.8 for PowerPC Macs for a long long time.
#1: I file Safari crash reports daily, most are Flash related, but not all, some are also Javascript related.
#2: Flash performance on even a Dual Core G5 is ridiculously sluggish compared to even an OLD Pentium 4 PC! I've done the comparison, it's embarrassing.
#3: Disk permissions are always corrupted. Some people claim this doesn't cause problems, but my experience comparing Tiger, Leopard, & now Snow Leopard suggests to me otherwise.
ONLY TIGER WILL RUN FOR MONTHS & MONTHS WITHOUT A CRASH OR KERNEL PANIC OR PERSISTENT SPINNING BEACHBALLS THAT REQUIRE A REBOOT!
#4: The MAIL program is also sluggish and often spins the beachball. When the original carbon/MacOS 9 compatible AOL program & the newer AOL client send mail & attachments faster than Apple's MAIL program, guess what?
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
So, please Apple, can I get a side order of 10.5.9 with my 10.6.2 please?
PS: The last time I complained about any of these issues I was warned by the MacRumors moderators for SPAMMING the board! LOL
Paybacks are a biATCH aren't they fanbois?
Then you've screwed up your own system.
I've got two PowerPC systems, iBook G4 14" and Powerbook G4 15" and Safari runs smoothly on both. WebKit runs smoothly on the Powerbook as I don't bother testing on the iBook.
Firstly flash player is an adobe issue not an apple one as they are too lame ass to fix the problems since snow leopard.
Flash player since SL has been crap fully and apple can only do so much to help the problems.
If flash player was better optimized for SL and OSX in general we all wouldn't see these issues.
These issues with flash player are not confined to just the mac side as the pc side is seeing similar and other issues as well.
Flash player since SL has been crap fully and apple can only do so much to help the problems.
If flash player was better optimized for SL and OSX in general we all wouldn't see these issues.
These issues with flash player are not confined to just the mac side as the pc side is seeing similar and other issues as well.
No we don't.
There is no such sentiment reflected in the bulk of Apple's market. Ergo, the sentiment doesn't really exist.
Except all of the problems being reported, and the fact that SL was supposed to be an immediate improvement upon Leopard
Snow Leopard has been a nightmare for us. Its so buggy. We are rolling people back to 10.5.8.
Seconded.
Flash runs a little better after rolling my macbook back to "Vanilla" Leopard, among other things. But the problem with this guy's mac could be something to do with the hardware. I read in his description that it was a problem with Airport and the Apple engineers are working on it.