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Apple's New Face ID Biometric System Works in the Dark and When Your Face is Obscured by Hats and Beards

Yojimbo007 said:
Not me.. touch id has been a pain for me.. my hands are sweaty and the home button gets dirty real quik and as a result it wont recognize my finger print.. more ofthen than not i have to resort to polishing the button before it works. Or just use password .

Also if my hand are wetter than a certain amount the touch id does not work.

So all in all i am for face id.. bigtime.
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You seem to suffer from the exact same problems as me with touchID. Gets so annoying
 
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SgtPepper12 said:
No matter how much I read about it, I can only think about disadvantages when compared to TouchID. Regarding convenience it's certainly a step backwards. And let's face (heh) it, this is all about convenience, security is not a serious matter here. Pretty disappointed they went in this direction.
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It’s not a step backwards. What if your hands are dirty ? Touch ID fails. Face ID is better. Smarter and so much more. It learns your face. Didn’t you read the article ??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Uh
 
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FOR THE LAST TIME: The iPhone X has an IR camera. IR cameras can see through sunglasses. This is why remote controls work, even though the plastic housing for the IR blaster looks like it's opaque black. Am I the only one who had a Sony Handicam with nightvision as a kid? I noticed many things become more transparent when using an IR camera—sunglasses being one of them. It was pretty cool.
 
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Appleaker said:
That’s great but most people prefer will prefer Touch ID.
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I agree with this. However, Primarily because no one else really has experience with Face ID to make A fair evaluation of what they prefer yet. I think once Face ID has predominately been reviewed and Tested, then it will be interesting to see the convenience and security between the two features.
 
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Multiple Faces in Face ID

When using Touch ID, multiple fingerprints can be added to a device so more than one person can unlock it. That is not possible with Face ID. Face ID makes a map of a single face and that's the only face that can unlock the iPhone X. To add a new face, the existing face must be removed.
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Not a fan of this.
My wife and I each have a fingerprint registered with each other's phone (nothing crazy, just makes it easy for us to grab whichever phone is closest to Google something or whatever) and its annoying to think that one of us would have to type in a complex access code to get in to an iPhone X... Is it stilly of me to think that due to this one specific issue I'm thinking of an iPhone 8 over an iPhone X? And since the 8 isn't much change over my work-issued iPhone 7, I won't upgrade my personal 5S at all?
 
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I'm sure people would be excited about this, if that phone was $799.

It's like dating a hot woman, ignoring the wart on her face and the notch on her neck, but then realising, that she already has 4 Kids and no job...
 
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EdT said:
It failed at the demo. Even if there is a valid reason they need to get 3rd party sites to verify it really does work as quickly as possible.
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Not it didn’t. The passcode came up. Because who ever put the phones there didn’t set it up correctly. That’s why it worked flawless the second phone he grabbed.
 
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My fear with waiting for reviews is they are all such siccophants and afraid of losing access, they never tell the truth on the product until the next version comes out.

It amazes me to no end how you read real user comments on Macrumors or Amazon or use the product for an hour and see the problems immediately, but the expert reviewers and pundits say nothing until they trash the previous version.

Perfect example is Apple Watch. v1 was terrible. A photos app to look at pictures the size of a stamp? App load times were unacceptable. 3rd party apps should have never shipped.

Yet most reviews failed to mention this or glossed over it.

This is what worries me about both FaceID and that stupid notch. Reviewers won’t trash it if it sucks or doesn’t work.

(Also like the MacBook Pro. Only way you knew there was a problem was via Twitter long after it shipped.)
 
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dannyyankou said:
I feel bad for Craig, you could tell face id works well based on the hands on demonstrations. Someone went wrong.
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Not necessarily. A few people at the event commented it didn’t work every time. Check twitter.
 
If it works with sunglasses, I'm completely on board with Face ID. The only times I look at my phone without pointing it at my face is when I'm checking for the time or notifications, which I can do without unlocking it. I hope they make some cool features in the future, like maybe wink to get to the home screen without swiping up XD
 
Relentless Power said:
I disagree. That would made it a lot more difficult to reach, especially for the Plus models. Which means you have to use your thumb in most cases. One handed use to reach the power button would not be easily accessible, and Apple is about accessibility. Even trying that on my iPhone right now, is not an easy thing to do one-handed.
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I mean on the X. You would keep it normal on the other models.
 
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Face ID will only unlock your device when you look in the direction of the iPhone X with your eyes open, meaning Face ID only works when there's a live person in front of it
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Suprised how many forum members missed this. Idk how Apple managed to do it but I'm excited to see it in action!
 
Packers1958 said:
I doubt this is a big issue, but in some of the demo videos after the show, they showed someone pointing the phone at the face of the owner and unlocking the phone. I guess a thief could steal your phone, point it at your face for a fraction of a second and take off with your unlocked phone.
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Stop dreaming it'll take a few seconds and it won't be as smooth as you think, if someone wanted to steal your phone they can just use a knife and tell you to unlock it.
 
I found a video that shows really well how remote controls (with black housings) look in night vision. I couldn't find one of someone wearing sunglasses, but it's the same principle. Note that it looks like the area around the transmitter is completely clear, but it's just a regular remote that typically has black all around it. This is exactly what I saw with my nightvision handicam I had as a kid:

 
dannyyankou said:
I feel bad for Craig, you could tell face id works well based on the hands on demonstrations. Someone went wrong.
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In a way, it's not the worst thing that could happen. If anything, at least it shows the backup method of security as a fail safe what would happen if Face ID does not register.
 
Sounds like Apple was a bit more focused on the 'could' and not enough on the 'should' part of the equation.

Please give us both in the future. There are use cases where one type can excel over the other and vice versa.
 
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Face ID Special Features

With the "attention aware" feature, the iPhone X knows when you're looking at it. Face ID will display notifications and messages on the Lock screen when you look at the iPhone X, it will keep the screen lit, and it will automatically lower the volume of an alarm or ringer when it knows your attention is on the iPhone X's display.
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This is probably the coolest part, for me.

People also need to keep in mind that FaceID is probably still undergoing refinements and bug-fixing, and Apple will continue working on the software right up until November 3rd. Yes iOS 11 launches this month, but FaceID does not.
 
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