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is it just me, but when I zoom in on my location when in satellite mode, it goes to a grid with a no entry sign. is it because the area i'm in is a small town? as when i zoom in on say London, it's fine

worked fine in google maps

It's because apple don't have map data for that zoom level. It happens in a lot of places in the UK.
 
I think if I was Google I'd be looking at this whole situation, laughing and wondering how much I could get away with charging for my "proper" Maps app...

Actually, If I were Google, I'd make the best darn Maps app I can, make it free to use like all my other products and make sure to publicize the crap out of it in the media and make sure everyone knew it was a "must have" for iOS 6 users. I'd tout the multi-platform aspect, the integration between this app, Android and the web version and the synchronization of data possible for end-users.

Make it so Apple's maps become as irrelevant as possible. Once they are, will Apple be willing to improve and maintain such an irrelevant part of their business ? Probably not, and they'll just slowly drop out of the mapping business altogether.

Then Google wins. Alienating iOS users right now is the worse course of action they could take.
 
I have just reverted/restored to iOS 5.1. I use Walkmeter, which is an excellent App. Unfortunately as it used the Apple API to get the mapping info it became useless for where I live in the UK as there is no detailed satellite imagery. :(

All is well now as I am back with Google maps data. :D

This will definitely save me some money in the short term as I won't be getting an iPhone 5 until this is fixed. I will monitor the situation with my iPod Touch (4G) which I had also upgraded to iOS 6.
 
Yes that works the same way on the iPhone4 for me also.


This is laughable.....the one thing Apple have tried to address in response to Google Maps is a good Turn By Turn function - Google's own was rubbish with small instructions and didnt auto move to the next direction.....but here we are with Apple not fixing the main mistake either...love it

Does anyone else think Apple rushed this out as they had very little to talk about with iOS6 and iPhone 5?
 
YELP hopeless in the UK

Also,

This integration business with YELP. Well, YELP itself is completely pointless in my area and going on their website to add places and see what POIs they have is like running through mud - too much effort. YELP has hardly any POIs so if the Apple Maps are dependent on this - god help us all.
 
Google Maps vs. Apple Maps

This is a no brainer - so what, the bridge is a bit off, however look at a comparison of the surrounding buildings to Google Maps (same location). You will see Apple has greater detail. Also in Google Maps the images are blurry and the building behind the bridge are flat and not in 3D.

They both have pro's and con's, however Apple for the most part has better picture quality.
 
I agree that the new maps app kinda sucks. It couldn't even find my local hospital.

Let's hope we use a google search to find the local hospital incase of emergencies.. instead of the maps!

I wonder if you google the address.. could MAPS guide you there through turn-by-turn?
 
This is typical Jobs philosophy. Apple simply released a downgrade product, like they did with FCPX. With FCPX they were stuck at an old platform which didn't make sense to iterate any further so they rebooted the app, with far less features and some advantages, but mainly disadvantages for switchers, but after 1.5 years, the product has become much better and a quite decent NLE.

With maps Apple was again stuck due to Google, so again they had to reboot the whole thing, with far less features (in this case it was far less accuracy), but most probably the product will become a decent maps solution in the near future. The problem with this is that you have to upgrade the maps app if you want to upgrade to the latest iOS. With FCPX, upgrading from FCS 3 was totally voluntary.
 
I have just reverted/restored to iOS 5.1. I use Walkmeter, which is an excellent App. Unfortunately as it used the Apple API to get the mapping info it became useless for where I live in the UK as there is no detailed satellite imagery. :(

All is well now as I am back with Google maps data. :D

This will definitely save me some money in the short term as I won't be getting an iPhone 5 until this is fixed. I will monitor the situation with my iPod Touch (4G) which I had also upgraded to iOS 6.

how do you roll back software - I need to do it
 
One thing to note is that all map applications get better with time and as more people use them. The more crowd-sourced data they can pull, the more accurate the application will become. Give it time.
 
They both have pro's and con's, however Apple for the most part has better picture quality.

The last thing I'm worried about when pulling up a map is whether the map looks good or not. I'd rather it be accurate and easy to read. But hey, what do I know. Maybe it is better to have pretty, innacurate maps that won't be helpful in finding your intended destination.
 
This is laughable.....the one thing Apple have tried to address in response to Google Maps is a good Turn By Turn function - Google's own was rubbish with small instructions and didnt auto move to the next direction.....but here we are with Apple not fixing the main mistake either...love it

Does anyone else think Apple rushed this out as they had very little to talk about with iOS6 and iPhone 5?

I do like the ability to add pictures and video to email, which should have been there since the first iOS.
 
I honestly don't get some of the apologists here. Some of the responses/apologies/defenses I've read here so far are comical.

I travel for a living and I used to the Google powered product nonstop in MANY countries and never had any real issues. I'll be vocal because this affects me more so than many others. I had a product that worked perfectly, and now it doesn't. In the coming weeks when I am out of the country, I'll be forced to use Google through Safari. That's not ideal in the least.



This is a terrible first step and nothing to be proud of, it isn't a working product in many MAJOR areas!!!! See the complaints from people living in NYC and Tokyo.

I am not glad that Apple took the initiative to release a broken product, and why should I be prepared to be disappointed for a couple of years? Ask yourself, does that make any sense? It doesn't, at all.



This feels like an alpha release of a product. It isn't ready for prime time and the feedback reinforces that notion.

Google Maps is a fully finished product and has been so for years.



Yes, ONE of their partners. It seems that they've partnered with some weak partners so far, and TomTom is among the worst of them all. What difference does it make? They've released an unfinished product which should never be done, and they've had people beta testing this for a while now.

It isn't an acceptable excuse, PERIOD.

Can't you still use Google maps through the browser? It even has location finding and driving directions as well.
 
This is laughable.....the one thing Apple have tried to address in response to Google Maps is a good Turn By Turn function - Google's own was rubbish with small instructions and didnt auto move to the next direction.....but here we are with Apple not fixing the main mistake either...love it

Does anyone else think Apple rushed this out as they had very little to talk about with iOS6 and iPhone 5?

I belive it works better with the 4s (with siri), but I haven't tested that out yet.
 
To be Frank - Maps is piss poor

I accept that such a huge product - mapping the entire world - can not be easily veto'd for mistakes, but some of the errors in the UK are massive. The Man United one is my favourite - the world's biggest sporting brand and club with the largest fanbase is now a Over 5's community team in Sale.

Maps will find Manchester United's ground if you search for Manchester United FC. However, trying the same trick to locate Chelsea (i.e. search for Chelsea FC) took me to UFCW Local 432 on an entirely different continent!
 

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One thing to note is that all map applications get better with time and as more people use them. The more crowd-sourced data they can pull, the more accurate the application will become. Give it time.

While we give it time, do you think Google will sit tight and not improve their own solution ? If Apple and Google improve at the same pace, then are we not right back at square one in a few years when Apple still hasn't caught up to Google ?

Pretty big chance to take, that whole "give it time" business.
 
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It's because apple don't have map data for that zoom level. It happens in a lot of places in the UK.

Since Google doesn't have their own satellites, I suppose the satellite images are just a matter of handing over the money and installing the data on some big servers.

Personally, I think Apple should produce an app that allows you to check the map data and report mistakes.
 
This is inexcusable for a company like Apple to launch a vital yet woefully incomplete app. If they don't have the data base and the kinks worked out, wait until it is right.
That logic doesn't work either. By your theory we would have never seen iOS 1.0 and iPhone 1 2007.

Apple does have a release and upgrade cycle approach with all its benefits and difficulties.

My objection with Maps and FCP is why deprecate the old when introducing the new. Among the millions of customers, some want to be early adopters and some want bulletproof reliability and to be a late adopter. My concern with this approach is forcing essentially all OS users to be bleeding edge early adopters.

The factor that is not really being addressed is the fact the new maps app has underlying functionality and hooks to other apple and ecosystem features that will enable it to do things Apple would not let a third party do at all, and do so with as good of security as is achievable.

Until the release and upgrade cycle resolves them a bit at a time year after year.

It is instructive to remember Google Maps itself is only 7 years old and only became ubiquitous about 4 years ago, three years into the product life. Apple has a captive audience to sort the issues on a massive scale so may get there a bit faster than Google did, but with that momentum and the access to interactive hooks, will surpass it.

In the mean time some pain and error is in your present tense.

Rocketman
 
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This is typical Jobs philosophy. Apple simply released a downgrade product, like they did with FCPX. With FCPX they were stuck at an old platform which didn't make sense to iterate any further so they rebooted the app, with far less features and some advantages, but mainly disadvantages for switchers, but after 1.5 years, the product has become much better and a quite decent NLE.

With maps Apple was again stuck due to Google, so again they had to reboot the whole thing, with far less features (in this case it was far less accuracy), but most probably the product will become a decent maps solution in the near future. The problem with this is that you have to upgrade the maps app if you want to upgrade to the latest iOS. With FCPX, upgrading from FCS 3 was totally voluntary.

Well if the maps are better in 2 years might switch back to Apple then. Now seriously looking up Android.
 
As it stands, Maps is not fit for purpose for huge numbers of users and Apple should have delayed dumping Google Maps until they were a bit further down the line!

This. People are saying it's new, it will get better etc but this software comes from a company who has time and again held back on releasing products and features on the basis that they don't want to release something that isn't ready, beautifully polished and a delight to use. They haven't done that. They haven't got it right first time. iOS seems like it has been released prematurely (oo-er) and feels like a rushed piece of software.

This is a step down from google maps and the transition between the two shouldn't be step down followed by a step back up.
 
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