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My SUPER boring question: if you choose to go without a case on your shiny, more durable, iPhone 12/Pro, will the MagSafe charger scratch the glass back?

The magnetic charging surface, if the same as the one for the Apple Watch, is made of plastic, which is softer than glass and therefore shouldn't scratch... unless it's got some sand/dirt on it.
 
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So how are the magnets gonna play with Credit Cards in the MagSafe pouches?

Apple said the Wallet has shielding to protect credit cards. So annoying that many merchants still rely on those outdated and unreliable magnetic strips. I just had an incident yesterday where I couldn't get out of a parking garage because their crappy payment system couldn't read my card.
 
How so? It’s the first time there’s been a native way to attach accessories easily to the iphone. It will enable all sorts of new things like easy to use car and bike mounts, external lens attachments, cases with new functionality, kickstands, etc. all of which can more easily be pulled off and on and changed at will.
If the magnets hold it onto car and bike mounts securely it's quite simply NOT magsafe, the idea of magsafe is if you trip over the wire it detaches very very easily so your hardware doesn't go flying and smash. Maybe that's what they're hoping for phones to go flying and breaking everywhere so they can charge their extortionate repair fees or advise people to "just buy a new phone". I'll stick to quadlock for my bike mount and my Qi charging mat for wireless charging at home.
 
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How do you expect to charge anything without any wires at all? Were you expecting the electricity to magically flow through the air and into your phone?
If it is wireless, then I expect it to work without wires. Isn't that common sense? Wireless = no wires. So if as you say this isn't possible, then I expect it not to be sold as "wireless". I have a wireless door bell. Guess what: It has no wires. I've always had my landline phones using wireless phone receivers. Guess what: No wires. And Apple sells me "wireless charging". With wires. WTF?
 
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It’s wireless in that you don’t actually have to plug a cable into your phone when you want to charge it.
Excuse me? What good does that do me? So instead of plugging a cable in the phone, I attach a round plate to the phone, which has a cable to plug into a USB-C charger, which has a cable to plug into the wall. So I'm paying £39 for the pleasure of attaching some round disk connected to the wall with two cables, instead of plugging in a cable connected to the wall with two cables? Feels extremely stupid to me.
 
Will there be any issue using the MagSafe charger with an older iPhone? Currently have an iPhone XS Max and thinking about buying one of these to use as a wireless charger before eventually upgrading my phone. I currently do not have any wireless charger.
 
Excuse me? What good does that do me? So instead of plugging a cable in the phone, I attach a round plate to the phone, which has a cable to plug into a USB-C charger, which has a cable to plug into the wall. So I'm paying £39 for the pleasure of attaching some round disk connected to the wall with two cables, instead of plugging in a cable connected to the wall with two cables? Feels extremely stupid to me.
It is wireless power transfer.

I suggest that a lot of the "it's not wireless" comments have rather missed the boat. You might have been able to make a good argument. In 2008 or before.

Established in 2008, the Wireless Power Consortium is an open, collaborative standards development group of more than 500 member companies from around the globe.
https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/about/about-wpc
 
I still need two hands to detach the mat from my phone, so how is this design any better than plugging in a cable?

At least with a cable I can avoid latent heat which otherwise degrades the battery over time. Seems like a grab bag feature.
 
So what about wireless internet? You don’t like WiFi either?
That's beyond stupid. Seriously. WiFi works without cables. There's no cable from my WiFi router to any devices in my home. This "wireless" charger requires me to attach my phone with two cables to the wall.
 
That's beyond stupid. Seriously. WiFi works without cables. There's no cable from my WiFi router to any devices in my home. This "wireless" charger requires me to attach my phone with two cables to the wall.

no one force you to buy it!

i dont think its stupid, to just simply put your phone and boom charging!
 
It is wireless power transfer.

I suggest that a lot of the "it's not wireless" comments have rather missed the boat. You might have been able to make a good argument. In 2008 or before.


https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/about/about-wpc

All you do is that instead of using a cable with a USB-C connector on one end and a Lightning connector on the other hand, that you plug into your phone, and that comes for free with your iPhone 12, you take a cable with a USB-C connector on one end and a round plate on the other hand, connect it to your phone, and pay £39 for the pleasure.

And I have three meter lightning cables, which mean I can charge the phone and move around a bit and use the phone. With the four feet cable of MagSafe, I have to stay very close to the wall outlet to use the phone.

no one force you to buy it!

i dont think its stupid, to just simply put your phone and boom charging!
Guess what I do with a lightning cable. I just plug it into the phone and boom charging! And the "beyond stupid" was about someone comparing "wireless charging" that requires me to connect the phone to the wall plug with two cables and WiFi which works _without_ any cables.
 
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The ill-fated Palm Pre did something like this. Came with a charging puck that also acted like a sort of dock, and the phone would magnetically slide into the correct position when you set it down.


Yep. And a lot of the gesture based navigation was born with the palm pre. The swipe up for apps, swipe up a little more to go to the home screen. Hell, even the swipe left/right on the bottom bar of the iphone to switch apps was on the Pre, but it was actually a physical area below the screen that swiped.

I’m gonna reminisce for a minute. Anyone who cares to join me, please do so.

I had a Palm Pre Plus, which came with the cool charging dock, and which also was the first (and maybe only) Palm Pre that AT&T got. If your Palm Pre had a red button in the bottom left corner, it was an original Pre. If it didn’t, it was a Plus or higher.

I loved that phone. I got it because I dropped my 3G and cracked the screen, and went in to get a new iPhone, but fell in love with the Pre. It was small and compact and the gestures were awesome. It even had a mirror on the back when you slid the keyboard down.

Web OS was fun and different, and the “Synergy” feature was cool as hell — everything that could be considered “social” all went into the same feed. So you had your email, texts, facebook messages, Twitter, and whatever else combined into one continuous feed. Nowadays, a feature like that might be chaotic. But back in 2010, it was great.

Alas, the hardware was crap. The screen was a bit too small for comfortable web browsing. It’s weird, because the sceen was 3.1 inches, and the iPhones screen was 3.5, but browsing the web on the iPhone felt like a totally different experience.

I dropped it once in a store, and the back battery cover went flying off, and the battery went flying somewhere else, and it took a few minutes to find everything and put it back together, lol. And the Palm app store in the summer of 2010 was equivalent to Apple‘s App store the first week it opened. The basics were there, facebook and twitter (which was still kind of new) but you could tell developers gave up on it pretty early.

after about 7 months of owning it, it would freeze up and need to be restarted all the time. I got fed up with it, and walked into AT&T one Pittsburgh winter night, and asked if I could upgrade. I couldn’t, of course — I’d only had the phone 7 months. So I had to cough up $400 to get an early upgrade, and walked out with an shiny, new iPhone 4. I hadn’t yet been sucked into Apple’s reality distortion field, but damn, that phone, and the iPad, were the things that nudged me towards it. It just blew me away. I remember getting home, messing around with it before going to bed, and I just kept marveling at crisp the text was. Then I downloaded some Spider-Man game, and the graphics were so damned impressive for a phone.

I ended up keeping that phone for a full two years. That’s the longest I’ve ever owned a phone. And the entire two years, I never put a case on it, not even once.

Every once in a while, I’ll charge the Pre up and mess around with it for an hour or so. Luckily, I transferred all the photos from it to my Mac years ago, because the touch screen doesn’t really work anymore. One thing that just shocks me every time I pick it up is how small the physical keyboard was. I don’t know how in the hell I ever managed to type a word on that thing.

It makes me a little sad when I think about it; Palm deserved a chance. Then HP bought them, and immediately threw them down a garbage chute. I haven’t bough an HP product in 9 years because of that.

Then eventually they sold webOS to LG, who took a great operating system, one that could have been a legitimate 3rd competitor to iOS and Android, and instead put it into ****ing TVs.

Well, that is all.
 
I'm considering canceling my order after realizing that 1m isn't going to cut it for me. Understanding that it might work for a lot of people, many people have a charger plugged into an outlet close to the ground, 1m is pretty restrictive.
 
Stupid question. Does the transparent case really show that magnet so much or is that just marketing to highlight that there is a magnet „hidden“? If it does show the magnet so much then Jikes ugly!
 
Yep. And a lot of the gesture based navigation was born with the palm pre. The swipe up for apps, swipe up a little more to go to the home screen. Hell, even the swipe left/right on the bottom bar of the iphone to switch apps was on the Pre, but it was actually a physical area below the screen that swiped.

I’m gonna reminisce for a minute. Anyone who cares to join me, please do so.

I had a Palm Pre Plus, which came with the cool charging dock, and which also was the first (and maybe only) Palm Pre that AT&T got. If your Palm Pre had a red button in the bottom left corner, it was an original Pre. If it didn’t, it was a Plus or higher.

I loved that phone. I got it because I dropped my 3G and cracked the screen, and went in to get a new iPhone, but fell in love with the Pre. It was small and compact and the gestures were awesome. It even had a mirror on the back when you slid the keyboard down.

Web OS was fun and different, and the “Synergy” feature was cool as hell — everything that could be considered “social” all went into the same feed. So you had your email, texts, facebook messages, Twitter, and whatever else combined into one continuous feed. Nowadays, a feature like that might be chaotic. But back in 2010, it was great.

Alas, the hardware was crap. The screen was a bit too small for comfortable web browsing. It’s weird, because the sceen was 3.1 inches, and the iPhones screen was 3.5, but browsing the web on the iPhone felt like a totally different experience.

I dropped it once in a store, and the back battery cover went flying off, and the battery went flying somewhere else, and it took a few minutes to find everything and put it back together, lol. And the Palm app store in the summer of 2010 was equivalent to Apple‘s App store the first week it opened. The basics were there, facebook and twitter (which was still kind of new) but you could tell developers gave up on it pretty early.

after about 7 months of owning it, it would freeze up and need to be restarted all the time. I got fed up with it, and walked into AT&T one Pittsburgh winter night, and asked if I could upgrade. I couldn’t, of course — I’d only had the phone 7 months. So I had to cough up $400 to get an early upgrade, and walked out with an shiny, new iPhone 4. I hadn’t yet been sucked into Apple’s reality distortion field, but damn, that phone, and the iPad, were the things that nudged me towards it. It just blew me away. I remember getting home, messing around with it before going to bed, and I just kept marveling at crisp the text was. Then I downloaded some Spider-Man game, and the graphics were so damned impressive for a phone.

I ended up keeping that phone for a full two years. That’s the longest I’ve ever owned a phone. And the entire two years, I never put a case on it, not even once.

Every once in a while, I’ll charge the Pre up and mess around with it for an hour or so. Luckily, I transferred all the photos from it to my Mac years ago, because the touch screen doesn’t really work anymore. One thing that just shocks me every time I pick it up is how small the physical keyboard was. I don’t know how in the hell I ever managed to type a word on that thing.

It makes me a little sad when I think about it; Palm deserved a chance. Then HP bought them, and immediately threw them down a garbage chute. I haven’t bough an HP product in 9 years because of that.

Then eventually they sold webOS to LG, who took a great operating system, one that could have been a legitimate 3rd competitor to iOS and Android, and instead put it into ****ing TVs.

Well, that is all.

I LOVED my Palm Pre and had the Plus also. The only difference was that it was on VZW at the time. So many good memories with it and I thought it would be around forever at least as an OS. It was intuitive and natural to use. As you said the hardware was crap and I had some of the same issues you did. The Pre was my first smartphone and I had no regrets in getting it at the time. Thankfully, right after my issues with it, VZW released the iPhone 4 that slowed me to not miss a beat.
 
All you do is that instead of using a cable with a USB-C connector on one end and a Lightning connector on the other hand, that you plug into your phone, and that comes for free with your iPhone 12, you take a cable with a USB-C connector on one end and a round plate on the other hand, connect it to your phone, and pay £39 for the pleasure.
Or as a footnote to history:

All you do is that instead of using a cable with a USB-A connector on one end and a USB-micro connector on the other end, that you plug into your phone, and that comes for free with your Android phone, you take a cable with a USB-A connector on one end and a round/square/any other shape plate on the other hand, lie your phone on it, and pay £10 to £20 for the pleasure.

And get frustrated when you knock the phone off the plate and have a dead phone in the morning.
 
Does anyone know if you can use the MagSafe charger with a non-MagSafe case?
I’ve been doing that for a month now no problem. 😉 wait and see. Presumably the thicker the case the more likely it is to cause issues. Although I can imagine a case that hits a sweet spot of aligning properly but not allowing enough force to pick the puck up with the phone. Which is what it sounds like a lot of people on here want.
 
I'm considering canceling my order after realizing that 1m isn't going to cut it for me. Understanding that it might work for a lot of people, many people have a charger plugged into an outlet close to the ground, 1m is pretty restrictive.

It seems plausible that a 2m option will be offered at some point.

I’ve held onto two cord extensions from old Macbooks and they’ve proven handy with some of Apple’s chargers.

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I mean, has it solved it? I don't want hold my phone and the charging device at the same time.
I know there have been times my phone has been just about entirely flat. If I put it on a conventional Qi charger, it is effectively unusable - at least for longer calls - until it has charged up quite a bit.

Of course a Lightning cable connection would overcome that. But if you have just gone to bed, and you usually charge wirelessly, that might not be to hand.
 
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