Apple's New MagSafe Charger Offers 15W Charging, Qi Still Limited to 7.5W

[compwiz1202]

So this is compatible with older iPhones that support wireless charging, but they don't have the magnet that helps align the coils. Hopefully Apple or other case makers will release MagSafe cases to support the older phones. It would be nice to lay my phone down without needing to make sure it's in the perfect spot.

This is my ? too. They don't explain it very well. Will it still charge a non 12.If yes, will it be 7.5 or 15W? I thought I read there would be Mag Cases for the non 12s, but all I saw on Apple for the non 12s compatibility was the charger. If they do make Mag Cases for non 12, will that give you 15W or still 7.5?

 

[deeddawg]

Exactly, they preach about the environment but come out with something else proprietary.

Are we positive it's proprietary?

We've seen the Belkin vent mount image from the presentation.

MPOW apparently already has one that's leaked.

Magnetically Attached iPhone 12 Wireless Charger Unveiled Ahead of Apple Event

Macotakara points to a new product unveiled today by Japanese accessory manufacturer MPOW. The device is a magnetically attached wireless charger...

www.macrumors.com

 

[Mavman]

This is my ? too. They don't explain it very well. Will it still charge a non 12.If yes, will it be 7.5 or 15W? I thought I read there would be Mag Cases for the non 12s, but all I saw on Apple for the non 12s compatibility was the charger. If they do make Mag Cases for non 12, will that give you 15W or still 7.5?

when I go to the apple website it pops us as “compatible with your device” and I have the 11Pro maxt

 

[compwiz1202]

Are we positive it's proprietary?

We've seen the Belkin vent mount image from the presentation.

MPOW apparently already has one that's leaked.

Magnetically Attached iPhone 12 Wireless Charger Unveiled Ahead of Apple Event

Macotakara points to a new product unveiled today by Japanese accessory manufacturer MPOW. The device is a magnetically attached wireless charger...

www.macrumors.com

True. They never really explained it all well. Will it still charge Qi device but at a lower rate, or will it lock out anything non Apple. Guess will have to research once everything is released for a bit

 

[deeddawg]

True. They never really explained it all well. Will it still charge Qi device but at a lower rate, or will it lock out anything non Apple. Guess will have to research once everything is released for a bit

Given the list of compatible models, it seems highly improbable that your non-Apple Qi compatible stuff wouldn't charge.

We won't know until someone is able to try though.

MagSafe Charger

Make wireless charging a snap with the MagSafe Charger for iPhone, Apple Watch, and the Wireless Charging Case for AirPods. Buy now at apple.com.

www.apple.com

 

[Macyourdayy]

Off all the announcements, I was most excited for 15w charging speeds. While it seems small, it's a major boost since I always use wireless charging except when I need to fast charge, and always a hassle manually charging in those times. But looks like will be in the same boat since most places I use it such as in the car where it has wireless charging of course all have Qi, with presumably no chance then of faster charging in the car even though the car supports up to 10w.

To bad the gps is badly affected by wireless charging. Trying to Qi charge in the car while running navigation results in useless speed reporting while everything is fine with normal cable charging.

 

[cmaier]

I’ve seen so many tech people/youtubers being happy that “MagSafe is back!”. I’m not sure why they are falling for this marketing name that has nothing to do with the old MagSafe. There were no accessories that you could attach to the MagSafe port of a laptop. The “Safe” part was that if you pulled Your MacBooks cable by accident it would safely detach, that won’t be the case with an iPhone. I think removing the phone from the charger will probably need two hands. I really like the use of magnets on the new iPhones but it think it’s stupid they use MagSafe name for it.

99% of the potential audience never owned a mac and never heard of the old MagSafe.

 

[cmaier]

So on Apple store app it says this charger is compatible with my 11 Pro Max. I thought it had to have magnets like 12/12pro?

It’s a qi charger. The magnets are an additional feature.

 

[Macyourdayy]

Hilarious how they decided to take MagSafe away from the MacBooks where it was invaluable, whereas it’s sort of nice on the iPhone. Just like Big Turd is going waste precious screen real estate on Macs making information density as rubbish as it is on iOS, along with hiding or deleting functionality, because appearance is more important than function.

 

[Macyourdayy]

99% of the potential audience never owned a mac and never heard of the old MagSafe.

Nothing like random percentages to make your point, and so what if not everyone has “heard” of “old MagSafe”? Hope your wired laptop crashes to the ground when some random person or animals goes past it.

 

[deeddawg]

To bad the gps is badly affected by wireless charging. Trying to Qi charge in the car while running navigation results in useless speed reporting while everything is fine with normal cable charging.

That's odd...

It's worked perfectly for me - through tens of thousands of miles with my phone in a Qi charging mount. (*)

Why do you suppose our experiences are so vastly different?

(*) and this is three different mounts across two different cars and two different phones. Waze, Apple Maps, Google Maps. All just fine.

 

[cmaier]

Nothing like random percentages to make your point, and so what if not everyone has “heard” of “old MagSafe”? Hope your wired laptop crashes to the ground when some random person or animals goes past it.

“So what?” The premise was that it’s a bad name in part because the name used to be used for something else.

And what’s with the personal attack?

 

[Macyourdayy]

That's odd...

It's worked perfectly for me - through tens of thousands of miles with my phone in a Qi charging mount. (*)

Why do you suppose our experiences are so vastly different?

(*) and this is three different mounts across two different cars and two different phones. Waze, Apple Maps, Google Maps. All just fine.

Wow. I returned a pro max because of that issue, along with flaky Bluetooth (yes I know) and the replacement had the same gps issue. Good to know that it works in some devices. I use the TomTom app as it works where there is no cellular reception and the speed displayed on it is useful as a HUD. With wired charging, the speed is reliable and accurate. The directions seem to be ok, but the fluctuating speed displayed suggests significant gps interference. Looks like I’ll have to get a 12 pro as these are likely to be the last iPhones with wired charging/data.

 

[deeddawg]

Wow. I returned a pro max because of that issue, along with flaky Bluetooth (yes I know) and the replacement had the same gps issue. Good to know that it works in some devices. I use the TomTom app as it works where there is no cellular reception and the speed displayed on it is useful as a HUD. With wired charging, the speed is reliable and accurate. The directions seem to be ok, but the fluctuating speed displayed suggests significant gps interference. Looks like I’ll have to get a 12 pro as these are likely to be the last iPhones with wired charging/data.

My XS has been rock solid. I used a 7 with a Qi patch before buying the XS two years ago. I haven’t a clue what was up with yours to cause what you experienced.

GPS signal frequencies are in the 1.1 to 1.5GHz range.

I can’t think of anything about Qi that would cause interference in those frequencies.

I’m planning to upgrade to a 12Pro in a few weeks. We shall see.

 

[laszlo182]

to the people asking what’s the point of this. it is for when apple ditches the charging port.

 

[mazz0]

Yea or I think you can go to this ancient building called a library

Only on iPhone, hasn’t come to iPadOS yet

 

[macjaffa]

Yep. Or on appropriate surfaces a couple strips of 3M VHB tape would do the job too.

Speaking only for myself - 15W charging is a solution to a problem I've simply not had. In all the time I've used Qi pucks, the 7.5W limit hasn't been a limiting factor. Probably because I placed pucks at the locations I usually set my phone down anyway (kitchen side-counter, home office desk, etc). So my phone infrequently gets low on battery, and I thus don't need to charge it in a rush.

So what you are saying is that you are absolutely OUTRAGED that apple included a lighting to USB -C cable in the box, and FURIOUS that you don't have a high power USB C charger just handy, and you refuse to use your already pre-existing USB A cable and multiple USB chargers you ALREADY own, for the sake of gaining INTERNET POINTS, and clearly anything less than nothing of what you already have or can easily aquire is NOT ENOUGH???! Down with this sort of thing I say!

 

[MozMan68]

True. They never really explained it all well. Will it still charge Qi device but at a lower rate, or will it lock out anything non Apple. Guess will have to research once everything is released for a bit

I think this was explained fairly well in the presentation.

Yes...it is proprietary, but only in the sense that you will need magnets sized to fit Apple's design if you want the "click" placement of the phone feature. Just like Apple's offering, third parties will be able to design magnetic cases, wallets, charging pucks, etc. that work with this "proprietary" iPhone 12 feature.

No...it's not "proprietary" since it is still Qi charging and will work with any phone that allows for Qi charging. I'll still be able to lay my new iPhone 12 Pro on my desk and have it wirelessly charge with my existing puck (just at 7.5w versus 15w for products designed to Apple's magnetic standard).

 

[Napoleon V]

A very shortsighted view on something you haven't even tried or tested.

It was just meant as an initial observation.

 

[page3]

I hope so, otherwise it’s a £40 cable not a charger.

@Si Vis Pacem It's great that you disagree, but could you perhaps expand as to why? Apple's other products are advertised as a "charger cable" when it's just the cable, so why not this? I recently spent hundreds on a charger for my electric car and I'd have been pretty miffed if it turned out to be only the cable.

 

[Macyourdayy]

“So what?” The premise was that it’s a bad name in part because the name used to be used for something else.

And what’s with the personal attack?

Sorry, it was probably late and I was irritated by someone else. Sad, I know.

 

[terraphantm]

@Si Vis Pacem It's great that you disagree, but could you perhaps expand as to why? Apple's other products are advertised as a "charger cable" when it's just the cable, so why not this? I recently spent hundreds on a charger for my electric car and I'd have been pretty miffed if it turned out to be only the cable.

Electric car “charger” isn’t a great example. They are in fact glorified cables. The actual charger is built into the car.

 

[page3]

Electric car “charger” isn’t a great example. They are in fact glorified cables. The actual charger is built into the car.

Fair point, but it’s definitely more than a cable.

 

[deeddawg]

Fair point, but it’s definitely more than a cable.

Also - Few folks already have 240V service in their garage or carport.

 

[page3]

Also - Few folks already have 240V service in their garage or carport.

In the UK at least, that’s often included in the install cost - Spur from main fuse box, new mini fuse box, a certain amount of cable run, “charger” and cable (tethered or socket).

Back to Apple, I have no problem with them selling the cable separately however they should call it a cable like they do with their other cables. It’s misleading not to.