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Apple's Newest Mac Pro Turns Five Years Old Today

pmau said:
That.

If you look at the iMac Pro pricing, which does not give you that much of headroom at all, I'm sure the new Mac Pro pricing will be outrageous.

The next thing to consider is the missing display, which will not make it cheaper for the consumer, because Apple will certainly not price the Mac Pro entry level without display lower than the iMac Pro.

They need to sell the iMac still. It has a very high margin.

My guess is that the "base" configuration that no-one really wants will be $7000, because if you "need" a Pro device, this is what you have to pay.

So, Yes I would be interested. But No, I will certainly not buy one considering Apples idea of pricing.
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The lack of display could shave a few thousand of the price though. I think we'll be looking at the £4000 mark for the entry level one but that's still way too much. If you're correct (I can't remember how much it was in 2013 when it was launched) it will fail to sell. I can't justify spending 7K on a single computer for my business when I could get an insane PC for £3000.
 
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C’mon Apple at this point just grab off the shelf workstation dual and single CPU workstation motherboards and slap your EFI in it. Get a nice case from Lian Li or InWin. Use a Seasonic PSU, Crucial RAM and Samsung SSD. Finally Noctua coolers and fans. Then make it work with off the Shelf GPU.

The hackintosh community can already tell you it works. Just get it out there and slap a $400 markup on the base configuration and 20% on upgrades. They’ll sell like hot cakes.
 
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aloshka said:
I loved it too! If the internals weren't outdated so bad, I'd get it. If anything this should have been the mac mini.
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It IS a cool industrial design; like most of Ive's "packaging".

Too expensive to mass-produce to be turned into a budget model like the mini, even without the high-end (for the time) CPU and GPUs.
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ChrisMoBro said:
All those waiting for a 2019 Mac Pro are going to be disappointed. It won’t be truly modular, it won’t feature Nvidia GPUs (important for a huge part of the pro market) and it’ll cost an absolute bomb.
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That kind of optimism is nothing less than what I have come to expect around here.
 
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chainmailr said:
I've been using the 2009 model for a while now, upgrading components as needed. It's been perfect. Can run the latest macOS. The 2013 model was a screwup.

I don't care if the regular tower is too "normal" for Apple. There's a reason everyone else makes them.
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You're right, there is:

It's called "lack of insight or vision".
 
Trash can Mac = GARBAGE. Worst Apple product EVER. Why? B/c the design is so poor, yet so expensive, they couldn't dump it quick. Even the hockey puck mouse was bad, but at least alternatives were cheap, and it was redesigned within a year.
I am still happily using my 2009 MP with upgrades (CPU, RAM, 4TBs of internal drives). THAT was a GOOD industrial design.
 
pika2000 said:
If I were Apple, i would just reuse the old cheese grater design, update some of the ports to Thunderbolt 3, color it space gray, and call it a day. People will be happy, and Apple just saved a ton of money. Let Ive design the next iPhone or something. :D
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Yeah, let's all go back to the G5 tower design of what, 2003?

You're all whining about a 5 year old design; so you want to replace it with a FIFTEEN year old one?

Got it!

And yes, I loved (still do!) my G5 tower; but that was then, this is now. Just because other people are stuck in the 1990s doesn't mean everyone has to be!
 
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Shameful that it takes over two years for one of the most valuable companies in the world to build a tower and display.

Actually, it might be more shameful that it took them three years to realize the 2013 Mac Pro was a bad design.

Who wants to bet how quickly the new Mac Pro (whenever it arrives) will thermally throttle? Every other Mac they've released recently, except maybe the new Air, thermally throttles at load rather quickly.
 
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Bacillus said:
Trashcan: disfunctional MacPro design - and the start of dyslexic MacPro strategy
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It wasn't "disfunctional" [sic]. It just miscalculated the adoption-rate of Thunderbolt 2.
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dilbert99 said:
iPads are for people who don't do work :D
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Let's not have THAT meme in the middle of the "Trash Can" meme!
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Bacillus said:
That’s indeed what should have happened in the first place.
There’s a manufacturer at every Chinese corner that can build such casing.
What they’re waiting for ?
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You're right: Copying (especially copying yourself) takes almost no time or effort.

Innovation, however, takes time.
 
MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
It IS a cool industrial design; like most of Ive's "packaging".

Too expensive to mass-produce to be turned into a budget model like the mini, even without the high-end (for the time) CPU and GPUs.
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That kind of optimism is nothing less than what I have come to expect around here.
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It’s more reflective of the way Apple treats its customers than our cynicism
 
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MacsRuleOthersDrool said:
Yeah, let's all go back to the G5 tower design of what, 2003?

You're all whining about a 5 year old design; so you want to replace it with a FIFTEEN year old one?

Got it!

And yes, I loved (still do!) my G5 tower; but that was then, this is now. Just because other people are stuck in the 1990s doesn't mean everyone has to be!
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There's nothing wrong with a full tower. It's expandable, repairable, upgradeable. It's louder, it's bigger, and it needs more cables than an iMac but people who need a full tower don't care about those things. You may not like that 15 (more like 35) year old design, but it's lived on because it works.

People who need a full tower need it because they need to add cards. They need the thermal envelope to run the machine at full tilt for hours while it works, and they don't want to worry about the solder joints cracking due to the heat or the darn thing throttling down to keep from locking up.

Whatever Apple ends up releasing will be over-engineered to the heavens in an attempt to justify a $4k starting price and will not be what Pros need. There isn't any money in a full tower because people don't replace them for a long time. They just replace internal components as needed.
 
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dilbert99 said:
iPads are for people who don't do work :D
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Jokes on you, I get almost all of the professional work done and college material I need on my iPad Pro.

Almost? Yes, I need Final Cut Pro still. But once that receives an iOS treatment with Pencil... GAME OVER.

I might always have a Mac in my house because I love the Mac. However, Touch is 100% the future.
 
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chainmailr said:
It did, and it sounded nice too. Aka you couldn't hear it. The "thermal core" design was efficient. Except there are reasons nobody else does that.
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Yeah, there are: No guts.

Say what you will about Apple; at least they have the chutzpah to swim upstream! Sometimes it's a hit, and when it is, it's a paradigm-shifter.

Sometimes it's a miss.

But at least they consistently TRY. Everyone one else just churns out the same "me too" crap, year after year, decade after decade. Them's the ones you should direct your Ire toward; not Apple!!!
 
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Acidsplat said:
I'm pretty sure professionals would be perfectly fine if they dust off the cheese grater design, and maybe make it space grey. They're less concerned about "oooo shiny" than consumers are.
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In many places workstations are hidden away so you can’t even see them. Apple building some over engineered proprietary modular system is bound to fail among pro users. Cheese grater (or any tower) is as modular system as they come so in all honesty I am baffled what Apple is trying to achieve. However, I would applaud if they were designing a modular MacBook Pro. That would be truly something. If not then give me a cheese grater with modern internals. It will be under my desk so I couldn’t care less what it looks like.
 
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To celebrate big I'm going to go and order a maxed out one for the same price they were selling them 5 years ago! Only Apple could get away with selling outdated tech for so long :/
 
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