I can hear the cries of the entire 2,987 strong 'Mini Clan' from here! š
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I won't be going anywhere and I'll never stop asking for a smaller device
Why?
My hands have not changed size, nor have my pockets
Something will come along .. a new Mini, a smaller SE, a "flip" ...
It will happen
"There have been rumors that the new low-cost iPhone could be called the "āiPhoneā 6E" instead of the āiPhone SEā 4"
Typo of sorts.
Typo of sorts.
I know, I know! š I just have to break the Mini Clan's balls from time to time. It is all in good fun though!! š
If by replacement you mean the Plus, the Plus was $200 (U.S.) more than the mini. Even with its higher price, the Plus reportedly still sold notably better than the mini.
The original run of the 12 mini was 2020-21 and the original run of the 13 mini was 2021-22. According to estimated iPhone sales data collected by "Business of Apps", 2021 and 2022 were the top two global sales years in iPhone history.
But where would they go? The market is dominated by "large" smartphones.
Itās not so much that I want a tiny phone. Itās more that I donāt want to carry around a huge brick. I donāt want a huge phone in my pocket. The market may be small but itās a market. When Apple doesnāt make a product I want then I keep my old product as long as I can and donāt upgrade. If Apple never again makes a product I want then I might look to another brand.
Indeed, the Plus isnāt going so well and they are going to discontinue it. It will probably be replaced by the 17 Air, apparently. Apple is looking for a sweet spot for it. This doesnāt change the fact that the Mini was a failure, for their standards.
People is not leaving the ecosystem: Apple revenues are still growing (and the margins were untouched).
NO, it was his opinion. And just because you follow the "trend" of the big phones does not mean that everyone agrees or do the same.
I've wrote two paragraphs why simply wqtching sales numbers is misleading, and you've just ignored that.
Are minis already dying in large numbers? No, so theres your answere. Furthermore, Apples revenues are NOT growing in real terms.
Wait, what, I never realized that Apple is measuring the iPhone in inches AND millimeters??? Why?? I thought the US is inches only? Why do you mix it? Why not go all inches or all metric? What is the point? If you know what millimeters are why still use inches? Do you mix metric and imperial with other units as well?
No, Touch ID doesnāt take up any screen at all, unlike Face ID. Youāre thinking of bezel. Touch ID can be placed anywhere off screen such as on the power button, or even under screen on some Android phones.
Again. Apple, not me, him or you, decided the Mini was not satisfying. They have all the data needed to say so. It doesnāt matter how much some very vocal customers are saying here. iPhone Mini was discontinued because it didnāt sell well enough.
And since Samsung, Sony and many others have no small phones in their catalog, it seems the market was clear enough
Itās been ages since the last time I used the power button to wake up my iPhone, so touchID on the power button is anything but handy.
I have an iPad 10 and it is very uncomfortable to use.
Maybe a 12ā MacBook Air? That animation clearly looks like the Apple logo on the back of the MacBook Air screen.
You're really cherry picking your sources to align with what you want the result to be, aren't you? The very top of the Wikipedia page that you pulled that chart from says this:
Based on that, the first iPhone listed in the chart you used is the iPhone 12, when you sort the chart by date. That's how faulty the sales data is for your statement - comparing iPhone to Samsung based only on Samsung's data because iPhone sales haven't been included since the 12.
Your statement "The top 10 selling phones in the past 3 years have been Samsung" is completely wrong. And it's so easy to find accurate information, showing that Apple holds seven of the top ten spots in sales for 2024, as a previous poster already showed you.
With Apple and Android abandoning the compact phone, that market is now ripe for a disruptor. All you need for innovation is a market that is not being served. 20 years from now people will look back at the iPhone 16 and say, āI canāt believe people used phones so big!!ā Remember the cell phones people used to carry in a briefcase? Redux.
I've read estimates where everything was growing except the base iphone sales. But that might add up to an overall slump.
I bought my first iphone because it was the only small option. If I can't get a phone I want, I'm gonna go for a cheap one. Or look at the flip phones to see if there is one that's small enough, and replace the ipad too in one go. Then there would be zero reason to keep selling my kidneys for ram upgrade in a macbook.
If you read the post I responded to, you would know that he was talking about the SE3 and not the miniā¦
Looks like Apple still think itās very handy if they release new iPads with TouchID on the power button (and all their Macs only have TouchID), even though itās uncomfortable for you or donāt like it.
So it would be nice if they also release one iPhone model with TouchID on the power button.
Will there be a apple cleaning cloth SE ? Like half the price of the original one
In essence, the market selected the smaller form factor phones for extinction. I remember the cacophony of voices who were complaining that Apple was holding on too tightly to the smaller form factor of the iPhone 4/5/5s and had better embrace the larger sizes as Android was doing or they would lose market share. The iPhone 6/6 Plus were released, Apple couldnāt keep up with demand for the iPhone 6 Plus and then the 6s Plus and the smaller form factorās fate was thus sealed way back in 2014. The demand for larger phones has only gone up since then. Apple dipped their toe back in to the smaller market with the iPhone 12/13 minis and no one should be surprised that they didnāt make an impact for Apple. God bless Apple for doing that, they seemed like it was a genuine investment, but the market had spoked long ago.
Whether or not this is strictly my opinion depends on your point of view. If you love the smaller form factors of the iPhone 4/5/5s/SE1 or the iPhone 6/6s/7/8/SE2/SE3 then itās simply my opinion. If you look at the market objectively without your desires, nĆ©e biases, then you know that the market simply doesnāt want smaller phones anymore. This isnāt a ātrendā, itās market reality. Apple and Android manufacturers could make smaller phones all day long and they still wouldnāt sell in the volume that the small phone crowd believes, no matter how advanced the feature set.
If you want to use a smaller phone, hold on to what you have, because the market isnāt going backwards. The miniās failure at igniting the market proved that the demand simply isnāt there, no matter whatever excuses the acolytes come up with to defend the smaller form factor.
I think everyone should realize that things are not stagnant
Very little in life reaches a point where "this is it" ... "this is the best and only design"
What I mean is, it's very unlikely that we'll be talking about there only being a line of 6"-ish iPhone 27's in 10 years
Very little in life reaches a point where "this is it" ... "this is the best and only design"
What I mean is, it's very unlikely that we'll be talking about there only being a line of 6"-ish iPhone 27's in 10 years
Agree 100%. The TouchID on my iPad Air 4 is kind of a pain to use. I still think that was a margin protection solution in search of a problem.
Something I agree with actually, we are seeing the end of an era that started over 10 years ago and the last phone is the SE3, before that was the iPhone 3G/3Gs almost 10 years prior to that. Change is the only constant, especially in technology.
Argue with me all you want, but for the vast majority of the world, rich and poor, their mobile phone is now their computer. They might have a computer, but Iām surprised at the number of people that their smartphone is it. They use a computer at work, but they donāt own a computer or a tablet. Heck, my wife has a nearly mint 2017 iPad 12.9ā that she rarely uses compared to her phone. I have zero justification to buy her a new iPad of any size as she simply wonāt/doesnāt use the one she has. This is the case for more people than these forums want to realize. Of course I got her the largest screen available when we upgrade our iPhone Xr last year. Her next phone will be the largest screen they make or possibly even a folding phone if that is what she likes. The market spoke loud and clearā¦
