Apple's Next MacBook Due in Q3 2008?

k2spitfire88 said:
why would they do that? ... :mad: That is a ridiculous statement ... Please, think logically before you post.
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Woah, teasphere, a newbie, makes his first post in which he makes a very different point to everyone else's, and this is how you treat his comment? :eek:

You've probably scared the poor kid away now. Nice, real nice. :rolleyes: There's no need to be rude you know mate! Everyone's allowed to have an opinion or make a prediction (this is MacRumors after all) whether you agree with it or not.

digitalbiker said:
So it really does boil down to whether or not you want to pay more using OSX vs. Vista. Basically the hardware is the same and Apple charges more for the same hardware configuration.

In my case, I think OS X is worth the extra expense but I can't say that I would pay the extra money that Apple charges if the only difference were the Apple store.
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I don't think Mac OS X in itself is worth the extra cost BUT, as I've said many times before, when you take into account the design and brand name and the fact that this is supposed to be a somewhat luxury product, then the higher price is entirely justified.
 
teasphere said:
I'm new here, and waiting to become a Mac owner as soon as the new Macbooks drop... but I think I may have a new angle/outlook from others expressed so far in this thread:

I actually think that the new Macbooks may be incorporating the Atom processor line, leaving the Montevina to the Pro line. It is just a guess but I think it makes sense. It would allow them to reduce prices with the coming avalanche of low-priced subnotebooks. It would allow them to shrink the form factor a bit more without cutting into the Air. It would grant users more battery life, which is already high. It would provide more than enough power for a consumer laptop as well as strengthen the market placement of the Pro line for power users.

I fully understand Apple is not concerned with competitor subnotes, or pricing in general, but to push the Macbook line into the $799-$999 range over the multiple option ranges would be huge.
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I'd ignore k2spitfire88.

I like these refreshing thoughts. I still expect a full blown dual core Montevina MacBook at the high end but a more "budget" model based on the Atom platform is entirely possible.
 
Bubba Satori said:
I agree to a point. But for $500 more ? I just don't see the value in that. Fortunately there isn't a 50% premium/OSX tax on the Mac Pro desktops which I consider an excellent value and will be purchasing soon.
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I recently bought a Macbook after carefully considering Windows alternatives. Realistically, we're not talking about a $500 premium over comparably speced machines. Sure you can get a laptop for 400 bucks, but have you ever used a b-list manufacturer superbudget doorstop as a daily machine? It has nothing to do with windows vs. osx and everything to do with quality hardware vs. junk hardware.

Hop over to the Dell website and spec out an xps laptop (a worthy alternative to a macbook). You'll find you're looking at maybe a 1-200 dollar savings against apple's website, and in my case, no savings at all. The macbook I bought off amazon was actually about 30 dollars cheaper than its xps counterpart after the rebate. Apple's 2 year extended warranty is also cheaper than Dell's.

Apple's only sin in my mind is not having better BTO options. Had I the option of adding a nvidia 8400m for a c note, I might not have done it, but it would have been nice to have the choice.
 
ajtomasik said:
will the price change from 1099.00 ?????:confused:
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when apple releases new generations of current products, they almost always keep the pricing the same, gotta love apple:D:apple:

this update is really the only thing im waiting for before i go completely into the world of mac. that, and the fact i have no money, but all summer to save up.
 
Yawning for 2 reasons:

* Macbooks were only updated fairly recently anyway
* "Next Macbook might be due some time within the usual release cycle" isn't particularly news (neither are all the "leaks" about a possible upcoming 3G iPhone!)

Give us a 13" MBP and then I'll get excited. In fact, I'd go straight out and buy one.
 
Cloudane said:
Yawning for 2 reasons:

* Macbooks were only updated fairly recently anyway
* "Next Macbook might be due some time within the usual release cycle" isn't particularly news (neither are all the "leaks" about a possible upcoming 3G iPhone!)

Give us a 13" MBP and then I'll get excited. In fact, I'd go straight out and buy one.
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well theres no question at all that a complete redesign is around the bend, ill try to fish for the article but apple has already begun producing the aluminum shells for the new macbook line. the "update" was really just a quick bump in specs to boost interest in the company and the macbooks while a slight slump in the companies reputation and design cycle occured
i really doubt there will ever be a 13" MBP because apple is VERY careful not to tread on its own products
 
an 13" MBP would have been nice, though. (or maybe an more powerful macbook option.)

I'm really looking forward to seeing the new macbook, although I like the design on the current one.
 
Teclis said:
an 13" MBP would have been nice, thoughm (or maybe an more powerful macbook option.)

I'm really looking forward to seeing the new macbook, although I like the design on the current one.
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i like the design as well, tho just the idea of the aluminum eliminates my fear of the plastic coming apart like every laptop Ive owned (tho to be fair none of those have the quality of apples products). The structural superiority of the aluminum laptops just really make it worth it for me. I can't wait!
 
well, I kind of agree. I was a little sad when i realised that my current laptop was the last i it's kind. (plastic:p)

Luckily my Macbook is still holding together:D
 
NT1440 said:
i like the design as well, tho just the idea of the aluminum eliminates my fear of the plastic coming apart like every laptop Ive owned (tho to be fair none of those have the quality of apples products). The structural superiority of the aluminum laptops just really make it worth it for me. I can't wait!
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Is the aluminum housing REALLY superior to the plastic one??

I have owned both and I have had more problems with the two Aluminum PB's and a Titanium PB than the plastic MB or ibook. In fact when I pick up a MBA, or MBP I always treat it gently because it seems susceptible to dents, dings, scratches, and cracks. My TI cracked to pieces and my ALPB's dented, broke, and scratched. The Plastic MB just bounces, bends, put doesn't break or crack and seems more resistant to scratches.

In addition the plastic laptops, insulate your lap from the battery and processor heat whereas the metal laptops conduct the heat to your lap. Most of the time I have to use a special pad to sit the metal laptops on so they don't burn my lap. The plastic laptops also have much better wi-fi range.

So is aluminum really superior? The old clamshell ibook was plastic and it was practically bulletproof. I think you could use it as a frisbee and never have a problem with it. The ibook and macbook are more fragile but they are definitely durable and that is why they were perfect for throwing in a school backpack.
 
I overreacted!

teasphere said:
I'm new here, and waiting to become a Mac owner as soon as the new Macbooks drop... but I think I may have a new angle/outlook from others expressed so far in this thread:

I actually think that the new Macbooks may be incorporating the Atom processor line, leaving the Montevina to the Pro line. It is just a guess but I think it makes sense. It would allow them to reduce prices with the coming avalanche of low-priced subnotebooks. It would allow them to shrink the form factor a bit more without cutting into the Air. It would grant users more battery life, which is already high. It would provide more than enough power for a consumer laptop as well as strengthen the market placement of the Pro line for power users.

I fully understand Apple is not concerned with competitor subnotes, or pricing in general, but to push the Macbook line into the $799-$999 range over the multiple option ranges would be huge.
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k2spitfire88 said:
why would they do that? Atom in the MB? It isnt even dual core, and their CPU speed is only 800 MHz to 1.87 GHz. That is just ignorance. They will fully keep it competitive (as much as apple does) by using Montevina in the MB, because they are not interested in the $799-$999 laptops, or further down in the bargain bin price range. :mad: That is a ridiculous statement, the form factor is fine the way it is, no need to shrink it more, or make it into another subnotebook, as they already have the AIR, and it is not doing as well as anticipated, because of compromises that they made. Don't say they would make more compromises in one of their most popular, if not their most popular, machine. Please, think logically before you post.
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I admit, i overreacted a bit, and I do apologize, and he is entitled to his own opinion. However, I just think that it would not make sense for them to use the Atom processor in the MB, but it may make sense in a smaller, multitouch device (future iPhones, etc.) That seems to be what makes the most sense to me. Again, apologies for over overreacting! :eek:
 
I treat my electronics somewhat obsessively carefully, so the durability difference between plastic and aluminum isn't what I care about - I just think aluminum looks better.
 
SodiumBenzoate said:
I treat my electronics somewhat obsessively carefully, so the durability difference between plastic and aluminum isn't what I care about - I just think aluminum looks better.
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I think most people do, bot the whole idea with a laptop is that it is portable and when you drag it with you everywhere, it is likley that they will get a small amount of beating over time.
 
just a guess but what if they use montevina in the MB and MBP but made a new line using atom called the Macbook Lite or something like that to replace the MBA. not probable but a possibility....................
 
nintendude said:
just a guess but what if they use montevina in the MB and MBP but made a new line using atom called the Macbook Lite or something like that to replace the MBA. not probable but a possibility....................
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Actually, Lite sounds better than Air :)
 
Dougmwpsu said:
I recently bought a Macbook after carefully considering Windows alternatives. Realistically, we're not talking about a $500 premium over comparably speced machines. Sure you can get a laptop for 400 bucks, but have you ever used a b-list manufacturer superbudget doorstop as a daily machine? It has nothing to do with windows vs. osx and everything to do with quality hardware vs. junk hardware.
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No, it was a Toshiba. Same spec. $500 more for the macbook last Sunday. Well, the Toshiba had a 2 inch bigger screen.
 
Bubba Satori said:
No, it was a Toshiba. Same spec. $500 more for the macbook last Sunday. Well, the Toshiba had a 2 inch bigger screen.
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Remember that Apple throws in a lot of additional software that you don't get on a windows machine. iLife, timemachine, exposé etc.
 
I'm with you on everything you said digitalbiker but this......


digitalbiker said:
doesn't break or crack
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I've been thinking of a macbook or MBP and there are a lot of people complaining about cracks in case's too many imo for it to be just a case (no pun) of accidental damage .

Both machines appear to have there own faults which need to be ironed out before I buy
ie:
Macbook screen cracking spontaneously and the case cracking issues I read about .

USB drops and audio issues with the MBP

Those are some of the 'problems' with the machines that I'm concerned about , maybe I'm just reading too many articles on problems/issues that the machines have but it does trouble me all the same , enough to keep my £$£$ in my pocket ...for now at least
 
Bubba Satori said:
No, it was a Toshiba. Same spec. $500 more for the macbook last Sunday. Well, the Toshiba had a 2 inch bigger screen.
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And how much does it weigh? How compact is its form factor? How durable is it? How does it look?

Computer specs are pretty generic these days. To me, when you’re talking laptop hardware, it’s all about form factor, design, and build quality. I think that makes up the difference right there whether you’re talking a Dell XPS, a Sony VIAO or a Macbook. Now software... that’s another story entirely.
 
optophobia said:
No it should be the GMA X4500 integrated graphics card if it is the Montevina platform, since a video card would compete with the MBP.
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Which could lead us to the long rumored 12" Powebook replacement. It's like Bigfoot, you hear about it, but there is no real proof that it exists (however, I hope they replace the 12"Powerbook, in the place of the BlackBook, with the same price point, which would make it ideal for me!)
 
digitalbiker said:
Is the aluminum housing REALLY superior to the plastic one??

I have owned both and I have had more problems with the two Aluminum PB's and a Titanium PB than the plastic MB or ibook. In fact when I pick up a MBA, or MBP I always treat it gently because it seems susceptible to dents, dings, scratches, and cracks. My TI cracked to pieces and my ALPB's dented, broke, and scratched. The Plastic MB just bounces, bends, put doesn't break or crack and seems more resistant to scratches.

In addition the plastic laptops, insulate your lap from the battery and processor heat whereas the metal laptops conduct the heat to your lap. Most of the time I have to use a special pad to sit the metal laptops on so they don't burn my lap. The plastic laptops also have much better wi-fi range.

So is aluminum really superior? The old clamshell ibook was plastic and it was practically bulletproof. I think you could use it as a frisbee and never have a problem with it. The ibook and macbook are more fragile but they are definitely durable and that is why they were perfect for throwing in a school backpack.
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well you have good points, but i was refering mostly to the fact that every plastic computer ive used falls apart, ususally at the hinges and connection points. then again, none of them are macs:apple:
 
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