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In the PC world, though, you know when new Intel stuff is coming, and you can be sure of PCs with the new stuff coming out soon after.

Apple may take months before upgrading to current Intel parts (quad core in the Maxitower, and Penryn in the laptops for examples).

Exactly - that's my point! =)

Still, I'm totally sold on Macbook functionality. I'm going to wait until the rumoured next July (?) update and then buy. I'm not so worried about a silver redesign; I really like the white. Plus, you could wait forever, gotta take the plunge sometime.
 
Well the macbook is the only white plastic one in the mac line up so I guess if definately get its looks upgraded to in line with rest of the line up.

a better quality LCD panel would be great because the current one has bad viewing angles :(

and a better keyboard would be nice too, the current TypoMaster3000 is just plain bad.

-Tomi
 
How about all MacBooks now include a SuperDrive? It's highway robbery that a $399 Dell can have a full CD/DVD burner yet a $1,099 MacBook doesn't.
 
I really hope this rumor is true, as i'm getting my first summer job after my exams this summer and will be saving up for one, hopefully i'll have the money by christmas!!! It will be the first time I take a bite out of the :apple:, finally i'll be able to get away from windows for good.
 
Not stupidity, but rather business savvy. I bet Apple will release new MBPs around June and wait for new MBs until 15 days after the back to school special ends. This way, they will clear out all of their old inventory.

Exactly what I was thinking; then they have a new machine ready for the holiday season!
 
Yeah, I want one of these for Uni in September too.
Hopefully the details will be known by around august so I can make an informed decision.

I already have an iMac, so I can wait.

I'd like to see multi touch, just cos its cool.
More battery length would be nice, and a better screen (even though I haven't used one in a while to know what's wrong with the current ones)
 
Actually, I'd love a matte black carbon fiber MBP - though I doubt it will happen. I think Steve is hooked on silver and metal.


yeah... and i for one totally hate silver... silver computers, silver cars, silver phones, silver electronics..... god damn silver! they could bring more colours to the MB (if they make it an aluminium) and MBP range like they did on the ipod shuffle :D
that would be awesome... and even if you don't like it, you would still have a choice and buy the silver one...
 
NO way

yeah... and i for one totally hate silver... silver computers, silver cars, silver phones, silver electronics..... god damn silver! they could bring more colours to the MB (if they make it an aluminium) and MBP range like they did on the ipod shuffle :D
that would be awesome... and even if you don't like it, you would still have a choice and buy the silver one...

Are you proposing that Apple color their macbooks after our iPod line? Good god man. Aluminum is much, MUCH nicer. Computers don't have to be bright and shiny to be good. Too much color can be distracting.

There is beauty in simplicity.
 
Are you proposing that Apple color their macbooks after our iPod line? Good god man. Aluminum is much, MUCH nicer. Computers don't have to be bright and shiny to be good. Too much color can be distracting.

There is beauty in simplicity.

I think colors would be a great idea. There are plenty of people who would want a computer in their favorite color. Besides, for those who wouldn't want a colored MacBook could get a standard aluminum or matte black one. I don't think it would work on the MacBook Pro, though I do think they could make a black MBP, like the iPod Classic.
 
I think colors would be a great idea. There are plenty of people who would want a computer in their favorite color. Besides, for those who wouldn't want a colored MacBook could get a standard aluminum or matte black one. I don't think it would work on the MacBook Pro, though I do think they could make a black MBP, like the iPod Classic.

Ah, welcome the new generation of Apple users. Not going to happen, though.

It's really tough to a an elitist Apple snob now that so many people own Macs. Me and my kind is becoming extinct!
 
Are you proposing that Apple color their macbooks after our iPod line? Good god man. Aluminum is much, MUCH nicer. Computers don't have to be bright and shiny to be good. Too much color can be distracting.

There is beauty in simplicity.

There is also beauty in choice. Think different. An old slogan from a company named Apple Computer. :apple:
 
There is also beauty in choice. Think different. An old slogan from a company named Apple Computer. :apple:

I worked at Apple when iPod minis first came out in different colors.

It was an absolute nightmare. We always had plenty of gold ones on hand though.
 
will the price change from 1099.00 ?????:confused:

No and the market for sub $1K laptops is huge and going to grow faster that any other segment in the PC industry in the current economy.

I was looking at a Sunday ad for a Toshiba identically speced to the Macbook. $599. :eek: I know, it didn't run OSX. The $1099 model had 4GB ram, 400GB hard drive, 15.4" screen, DL-DVD, card reader, HDMI port and a Nvidia 8400 video card. :eek:
 
I was looking at a Sunday ad for a Toshiba identically speced to the Macbook. $599. :eek: I know, it didn't run OSX. The $1099 model had 4GB ram, 400GB hard drive, 15.4" screen, DL-DVD, card reader, HDMI port and a Nvidia 8400 video card. :eek:

In addition to not running OS X, you also could not take it into a "Toshiba Store" to have a "Guru" look it over if you have a problem. And when you call Tech Support - even if you buy an extended warranty - you'd best have your Hindi to English technical dictionary handy to facilitate communication.

Yes Apple computers cost more then computers made by many other companies. But since Apple is not pushing out 100,000,000 units a year at margins measured in the tens of cents on each one, they can "afford" to provide us end-users with a much better pre-sale, actual sale, and post-sale support experience.
 
yep

In addition to not running OS X, you also could not take it into a "Toshiba Store" to have a "Guru" look it over if you have a problem. And when you call Tech Support - even if you buy an extended warranty - you'd best have your Hindi to English technical dictionary handy to facilitate communication.

Yes Apple computers cost more then computers made by many other companies. But since Apple is not pushing out 100,000,000 units a year at margins measured in the tens of cents on each one, they can "afford" to provide us end-users with a much better pre-sale, actual sale, and post-sale support experience.

Preach on, brother, preach on.
 
I'm new here, and waiting to become a Mac owner as soon as the new Macbooks drop... but I think I may have a new angle/outlook from others expressed so far in this thread:

I actually think that the new Macbooks may be incorporating the Atom processor line, leaving the Montevina to the Pro line. It is just a guess but I think it makes sense. It would allow them to reduce prices with the coming avalanche of low-priced subnotebooks. It would allow them to shrink the form factor a bit more without cutting into the Air. It would grant users more battery life, which is already high. It would provide more than enough power for a consumer laptop as well as strengthen the market placement of the Pro line for power users.

I fully understand Apple is not concerned with competitor subnotes, or pricing in general, but to push the Macbook line into the $799-$999 range over the multiple option ranges would be huge.
 
In addition to not running OS X, you also could not take it into a "Toshiba Store" to have a "Guru" look it over if you have a problem. And when you call Tech Support - even if you buy an extended warranty - you'd best have your Hindi to English technical dictionary handy to facilitate communication.

Yes Apple computers cost more then computers made by many other companies. But since Apple is not pushing out 100,000,000 units a year at margins measured in the tens of cents on each one, they can "afford" to provide us end-users with a much better pre-sale, actual sale, and post-sale support experience.

The only flaw to this argument is that the brick and mortar Apple stores only service about 5 to 10% of all Apple users. Most of the US and all international users don't have a convenient Apple store near them.

Also Apple charges an additional $250 for 3 years of phone and warranty support where as dell and toshiba generally includes 3 years of support in the price.

Apple only rates slightly better than Dell for phone support. So it really does boil down to whether or not you want to pay more using OSX vs. Vista. Basically the hardware is the same and Apple charges more for the same hardware configuration.

In my case, I think OS X is worth the extra expense but I can't say that I would pay the extra money that Apple charges if the only difference were the Apple store. For me the nearest store is at least 300 miles away and I live in the US.
 
The only flaw to this argument is that the brick and mortar Apple stores only service about 5 to 10% of all Apple users. Most of the US and all international users don't have a convenient Apple store near them.

I'm over 3000 miles away from the USA but my nearest Apple store is 3 miles down the road. Oh and I have another 3 apple stores within a couple of hours of me. So it isn't totally bleak for us johnny foreigners.

I do agree with your other points.
 
I'm new here, and waiting to become a Mac owner as soon as the new Macbooks drop... but I think I may have a new angle/outlook from others expressed so far in this thread:

I actually think that the new Macbooks may be incorporating the Atom processor line, leaving the Montevina to the Pro line. It is just a guess but I think it makes sense. It would allow them to reduce prices with the coming avalanche of low-priced subnotebooks. It would allow them to shrink the form factor a bit more without cutting into the Air. It would grant users more battery life, which is already high. It would provide more than enough power for a consumer laptop as well as strengthen the market placement of the Pro line for power users.

I fully understand Apple is not concerned with competitor subnotes, or pricing in general, but to push the Macbook line into the $799-$999 range over the multiple option ranges would be huge.

why would they do that? Atom in the MB? It isnt even dual core, and their CPU speed is only 800 MHz to 1.87 GHz. That is just ignorance. They will fully keep it competitive (as much as apple does) by using Montevina in the MB, because they are not interested in the $799-$999 laptops, or further down in the bargain bin price range. :mad: That is a ridiculous statement, the form factor is fine the way it is, no need to shrink it more, or make it into another subnotebook, as they already have the AIR, and it is not doing as well as anticipated, because of compromises that they made. Don't say they would make more compromises in one of their most popular, if not their most popular, machine. Please, think logically before you post.
 
In addition to not running OS X, you also could not take it into a "Toshiba Store" to have a "Guru" look it over if you have a problem. And when you call Tech Support - even if you buy an extended warranty - you'd best have your Hindi to English technical dictionary handy to facilitate communication.

Yes Apple computers cost more then computers made by many other companies. But since Apple is not pushing out 100,000,000 units a year at margins measured in the tens of cents on each one, they can "afford" to provide us end-users with a much better pre-sale, actual sale, and post-sale support experience.

I agree to a point. But for $500 more ? I just don't see the value in that. Fortunately there isn't a 50% premium/OSX tax on the Mac Pro desktops which I consider an excellent value and will be purchasing soon.
 
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