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I don't know what you are smoking but I want some of it:
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid/Late 2007)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2008)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2008)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2011)
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011) ***
  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2012)
  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2012)
  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) ***
  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2014) ***
  • MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015)
That's nine calendar years and 13 models. Three of them (***) were definitely only speed bumps (same CPU generation, no changes to features and exterior). The parallel release of an updated non-retina MBP and the retina MBP in 2012 can also not really be counted as two separate refreshes. That leaves us with nine 'full' refreshes in nine years plus three speed bumps.

Or said differently, a refresh cycle of 12 months and if we include the speed bumps, an average cycle of 9 months. You are re-writing history for the single purpose of being able to slam Apple. Apparently feeling righteous trumps being honest.

You're counting all the way up to the last update, which I did say nowadays you only get one update a year, which is true and shaping up to be the same for 2016. Go back to 2013 and earlier only. Then you have 11 updates in 7 calendar years (and that's only counting 2007 once...), not including the little every 4 month speed bumps as these little speed bumps they used to give you were never broken out as different models when assigning years to them (mid-2010, etc). They weren't much, but they were something - you were never that far from at least a little incremental update.

Where do you get off acting holier than thou accusing me of feeling "righteous" and "dishonest"? If you actually have been using Apple notebooks for the last decade and followed the update cycles like a hawk throughout the last decade (and no, the 4 month speed bumps aren't in the MR buyer's guides either) like me and the 30 people that liked my post, you'd know I'm actually right.

It's like you personally got butt-hurt by my accurate and correct post, which is bizarre.
 
Apple's Mr Cook has taken has eye off the ball for all but the thinnest of computers. A very good consumer strategy, but bad strategy for Apple's developer ecosystem (how did that work out for Mr Ballmer).
 
The slow down it is a totally logical thing. We all know that the macbook pro's four years lifecycle it's so close of it's end. (The launch of this generation was on June 2012)

We, the intensive apps users, are expecting a total empowered new machine, focused in POWER. Cause we all love how our Mac devices work, but we need more power.
  • 32GB RAM Capacity
  • 4K Screen
  • Powerful with at least 4 GB VRAM, dedicated GPU
  • The most powerful processor available
  • Color Options
  • Fingerprint reader
  • All the essential ports for a Intensive App User
  • And all the innovation that Apple give us with didn't imagine before.
We are all waiting for that!

Good wishes to all Intensive app users and lon live to Apple!!!
 
I'm not surprised! It's the longest we've ever waited for a MBP update, going by the buyers guide. I'm very tempted to pick up a Pro, but will be miffed if we've waited all this time for a minor speed bump.
 
I'm not surprised!

I've just started using Windows 10 at work, it's surprisingly nice. Not as visually pleasing as OS X, but still very refreshing and to my surprise I find myself really liking it.

...But then I tried using the trackpad of my work-provided Dell laptop. My good is it awful. You have to give it to Apple, absolutely no one comes close to their trackpads.

I look forward to refreshed MBPs and hopefully new MBAs (don't start...)!
 
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Blah blah blah Apple is doomed.

Mac Mini -- Disaster, they need to resurrect the 2012 Model and update it with latest processors.
Macbook Pro Retina 15" --- Intel Screwed up, Microsoft paid the price of going early with Skylake, apple updated and these are pro devices, they are good machines. All they need to do is offer 16gb Base, 32gb BTO, Thunderbolt 3.

Macbook Pro Retina 13" --- Offer a dGPU / 8gb Min, 16gb - 32gb BTO, Thunderbolt 3.

Macbook Air --- keep as is, drop the price even more.
Macbook ---- Up to a proper Core i CPU and add thunderbolt 3.

iMac --- is perfection, drop spinning drives and add thunderbolt 3

People are claiming doom and gloom wake up, Apple's laptops today still are better than any windows laptops, god awful gordy HP Spectres and terrible dell's will never compete.
 
Pricing will need to drop at least $400 per model and updated tech inserted to get this sales ship sailing again. Unfortunately Apple has hit a snag and is dead stopped until large price decreases come to be. Old tech and insane prices are damaging Apple. No wonder Apple no longer talks about its financials at keynotes, there isn't one good story to tell on the sales front.
 
The perceived value isn't there to prompt buyers who don't actually *need* a new laptop for performance reasons to spend the money to upgrade. Tim better stop talking the talk about all these insane new products in the pipeline and start walking the walk.

Now Apple might not be able to upgrade the CPU and GPU if newer/faster/lower-power versions aren't available but there's a lot of other technology available to incorporate which would increase that perceived value.

Edited for typo.
 
You'd have to be desperate to buy something from most of Apple's computer lineup right now. My 2011 MacBook Pro is limping along but I'll just keep reformatting/restoring rather than buy what they're selling at the moment.

Careful what you say, Apple could will OS X 10.12 to take up 95% of your processor to force you into buying a new one.
 
My late 2011 MBP is in the shop (logic board being replaced a second time at Apple's expense). Having it go down a second time and general desire for more speed has me in the market in the pretty near term. Have to say there is definitely no way that I would purchase a current MBP, even if my 2011 went up in flames.

I'm going to hold out another month and see what Apple does (hoping for the best). In the last week or so I have just about been won over by the Dell 7510...thinking maybe it would be better to move back to something with more of a workstation build and better cooling (theoretically). On the less bulky side, the Asus Zenbook UX501vw and Dell XPS 15/5510 look pretty compelling as well.

My 3 main pieces of software that I need to run are PS, LR and FCP. I'm definitely sort of married to FCP, but I've been thinking about switching to Premiere for awhile...it seems to be getting better and better, esp since the addition of Lumetri. It doesn't get mentioned a lot, but I feel like the Adobe CC model and subscription models in general make it almost an afterthought to switch OS flavors these days. What do I lose by going to windows 10? ProRes support I guess, not much else.

So not only is the hardware behind the curve. Apple proprietary software isn't particularly compelling or cutting edge these days either. It's just lackluster all around. Hoping for Apple to exceed expectations at WWDC and holding my breath for a month.
 
Careful what you say, Apple could will OS X 10.12 to take up 95% of your processor to force you into buying a new one.

Well, then you don't upgrade the OS. Just continue to apply the critical updates but don't upgrade. See, that wasn't too hard, was it?
 
For me, the Mac range is too fragmented and confusing. I'm a fairly basic Mac user but there isn't a Mac that suits me.

MacBook Pro - I'm not a pro. I just need it for surfing the web, email and some word processing.
MacBook - Very expensive for what I understand to be an underpowered computer. Concerned about the lack of ports, the fact it's USB-C (not seen on any other Apple product), the need for adaptors, no SD card slot etc.
MacBook Air - I thought the MacBook was going to replace this? Don't want to buy an 'old' Mac. Lower res screen (I think?). Silver bezel is different to all other Macs which again suggests is going to be discontinued.

I suspect I'm a fairly typical customer who is actually just quite confused as to which Mac to buy and ultimately comes to the conclusion that none are suitable/worth the money.
 
Hardware sales are tanking all across the industry.

Other than high end enthusiasts, people really don't see any value in these incremental updates.

My 4 year old MacBook Air is desperately in need or replacement, but the price point of a new Apple Laptop is just too high.

I'm okay with the price, if they'll finally bring the actual next generation of tech to the MPB. But not for the generation that's effectively three years old....
 
I get that we pay a premium for Macs. But, as has been said, over and over in this thread, there is no Mac - with the possible exception of the Macbook retina - that reflects state of the art tech (oh, and pretty good SSD performance across the board). Add to that the variety of software issues (bugs, lousy design, etc., etc.) and I honestly can't find a reason to buy a Mac.

Even my 14 year old daughter would refuse to buy a Macbook retina because it's underpowered and only has one port). She's more practical than her older 17 year old sister and we had to talk the older sister out of buying a Macbook retina as a sole machine for the next four years. The older sister is easily distracted by "pretty and thin." Just the kind of customer Ives likes, I guess. Not that there isn't a use case for that machine, but not at the price it sells for.
 
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You're counting all the way up to the last update, which I did say nowadays you only get one update a year, which is true and shaping up to be the same for 2016. Go back to 2013 and earlier only. Then you have 11 updates in 7 calendar years (and that's only counting 2007 once...), not including the little every 4 month speed bumps as these little speed bumps they used to give you were never broken out as different models when assigning years to them (mid-2010, etc). They weren't much, but they were something - you were never that far from at least a little incremental update.

Where do you get off acting holier than thou accusing me of feeling "righteous" and "dishonest"? If you actually have been using Apple notebooks for the last decade and followed the update cycles like a hawk throughout the last decade (and no, the 4 month speed bumps aren't in the MR buyer's guides either) like me and the 30 people that liked my post, you'd know I'm actually right.

It's like you personally got butt-hurt by my accurate and correct post, which is bizarre.
You make claims without backing them up. Show me the MacRumors articles about the so-called speed bumps I didn't list.
 
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