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Apple's Online Store Down Ahead of WWDC Keynote Event

I think we will see both the Air and the Mac Pro today. The Air will be first, and the Mac Pro will be “one more thing”. Both will be M1.5 or M2.

This is my guess and hope:)

I also wonder when the entire Mac line is steady and the chip distribution along the line is defined, will Apple update the entire line to M2, M3, M4, etc., as the new chips are released?
 
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What are the chances of a new Mac Mini?

Even if it's just a slight revision. Not necessarily M2. I'm sure the M1 model would do me just fine but I don't know if I should get one now or hold off. I'm not desperate for it so I can definitely wait until later in the year or even 2023 for one.

I have a PC but want to start transitioning from Windows and back to Mac :cool: I want to run both Windows + MacOS and gradually move away from Windows.
 
I’m ready. I turned off all my Apple/news related notifications, and informed people not to text me Apple news today. I have a 2 hour lunch break two hours after the start of the keynote, so I should have time to drive by my place, hop on the wifi and download the keynote for viewing back at work.
 
krspkbl said:
What are the chances of a new Mac Mini?

Even if it's just a slight revision. Not necessarily M2. I'm sure the M1 model would do me just fine but I don't know if I should get one now or hold off. I'm not desperate for it so I can definitely wait until later in the year or even 2023 for one.

I have a PC but want to start transitioning from Windows and back to Mac :cool: I want to run both Windows + MacOS and gradually move away from Windows.
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Given rumors of Mac Mini PRO and MAX in a ready-to-ship state have been hot & heavy since the MBpro launch cycle, I always suspect a new Mini could be debuted at ANY event. The rumors say that new Mac Minis were ready and got "pulled back" for Studio- which seems plausible- but if they are ready, they can always be pushed forward again too.

If nothing else, there is an OLD-tech Intel Mac Mini still in the store. It seems highly likely that that is going to go Silicon and that Apple didn't consider either existing Silicon Mac Mini or Studio to be its replacement. Popular guesses is that Mac Mini with M? PRO will be that replacement, priced about halfway between Mac Mini as is now and base Studio. My own guess is about $1299-$1499 based upon some extrapolations from 14" MBp priced with M1 PRO as well as current Intel Mini pricing.

We'll see though. The next Mac mini is coming thread has something like 17K posts of mostly people getting super excited ahead of EVERY Apple event expecting a new Mini to mostly be dashed at no announcement. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat.


As to your need for both OSs, the best way forward- IMO- is the old-fashioned bootcamp option of TWO computers. If you choose a monitor with dual video inputs and maybe a built-in KVM hub, you can readily flip between the two systems and use the same keyboard and mouse with both too. I went UltraWide 5K2K monitor that has a split screen mode so that I can display macOS on one half and Windows on the other when I might want to use both at the same time.

Yes, there is some cracks at emulation and yes there is ongoing hope for Microsoft to make Windows ARM available for sale to anyone interested... but Windows ARM is not full-on Windows, so software compatibility is in question with every app. Yes, the mainstream Windows stuff probably runs on Windows ARM just fine. But all you need is one crucial-to-you app that doesn't to make that option come up short. A Mac-Mini like PC is a "whole" (real) Windows PC that can run pretty much any Windows software. IMO, that's the way to go if you need reliability and broad compatibility with a foot fully in both worlds.
 
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but they are not going to release M2 products so soon after only releasing Mac Studio with M1 Ultra.
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M2 Air/Mini is not going to bother the M1 Ultra performance-wise until the M2 Max/Ultra comes out. There was about 10 months between the base M1 and the M1 Pro/Max, and another 6 months before the Ultra.

M2 Air/Mini is going to bother the M1 Pro on single-core performance*, esp. the cheaper 8-core version, which I suspect is why there's not been a M1 Pro Mini. The M2 could also offer more RAM, so the M1 Pro advantage could be down to extra IO and display support, which you either need or you don't.

(* if you bought an Ultra you're not worried about single-core performance).
 
theluggage said:
Also, I guess they have to fire up a lot of back-up servers to cope with the spike in orders when the site re-opens (it's traditional in the tech industry for servers to be overwhelmed and the site to go down on such occasions - Apple have a pretty good track record of not letting that happen).
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This isn’t how web hosting for major websites works in 2022. Assuming they’ve modernized their backend over the years, the level of effort involved is more likely along the lines of “push button, gain capacity” — if even that isn’t handled automatically based on server load — and would never require taking the site down.
 
My bet is an M1 Pro Mini, allowing Apple to discontinue the Intel Mini, plus some news of the AS Pro, with a launch by the end of 2022.

I would love it if we had M2 machines introduced, but I think that's going to be later in the year.
 
Pro tip: if they announce hardware and you want it then order at the earliest opportunity without delay. Global stability is crumbling and we know not what tomorrow brings.
 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
Given rumors of Mac Mini PRO and MAX in a ready-to-ship state have been hot & heavy since the MBpro launch cycle, I always suspect a new Mini could be debuted at any given event.
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Well, the Mac Studio is the "Mac Mini Max".
...and a Mac Mini M1 Pro is likely to look like poor bangs-per-buck alongside any M2 Mini which appears in the next 6 months. The longer it doesn't appear, the less likely it is.

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If nothing else, there is an OLD-tech Intel Mac Mini still in the store.
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As long as Apple supports MacOS on Intel (a clock that can't even begin counting down until the Mac Pro is replaced) - and until everything that matters is Apple Silicon Native - there will be a small demand for Intel Macs. Actually, it's probably worth Apple keeping Intel compatibility indefinitely, so they can jump back to Intel or AMD in the future.
 
jonblatho said:
Assuming they’ve modernized their backend over the years, the level of effort involved is more likely along the lines of “push button, gain capacity”
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Except with equally modern "fragile development" levels of QA that'd be "push button, cross fingers, gain capacity". Never hurts to get your ducks in a line if you know a big surge is coming.
 
Notchbook Air, if it’s true and they also f’it-up, then I’m becoming a Mac Mini user for dev stuff in the future, and no more mobile Macs for private usage. Windows 11 got decent and macOS acts like Vista now anyway.
 
I have enough Macs as it is. Honestly don’t see any interim Apple hardware I would want until my self imposed upgrade schedule next year fall. But I sure will have something fun to look forward in the couple weeks when I go to the Apple store.

If it’s the new MacBook Air, I still don’t think it’s M2 based. It’s gonna cause such a awkwardness in the product line especially when customers about make a potential purchase.

Why does the powerful MacBook Pros have M1 Pro chips but this has M2? Shouldn’t the M2 be more powerful? Most customers are not gonna break down cores and graphics. They are just seeing M1 and M2, not even the Pro and Max that denotes their capabilities.
 
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