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Apple's Online Store Down Ahead of WWDC Keynote Event

Nick_P said:
I think we will see both the Air and the Mac Pro today. The Air will be first, and the Mac Pro will be “one more thing”. Both will be M1.5 or M2.

This is my guess and hope:)

I also wonder when the entire Mac line is steady and the chip distribution along the line is defined, will Apple update the entire line to M2, M3, M4, etc., as the new chips are released?
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I think it’s just more powerful version of M1 Ultra.
 
alpi123 said:
Why are people expecting M2 when they haven't finished with the M1 transition yet... and they literally teased the Mac Pro at the Spring event
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And they literally said the M1 series SoC transition is finished with M1 Ultra being the last in the series.

I suspect the Mac Pro won’t have M1 anything. Probably not M2 anything either. I suspect it will have a different nomenclature.

Dunno if the Mac Pro will be teased today or not, but if it's just teased, that wouldn't be a reason for the Apple Store to go down. The Apple Store going down suggests new hardware will actually be formally announced, whether it's a Mac Pro or MacBook Air, or something else.

krspkbl said:
What are the chances of a new Mac Mini?

Even if it's just a slight revision. Not necessarily M2. I'm sure the M1 model would do me just fine but I don't know if I should get one now or hold off. I'm not desperate for it so I can definitely wait until later in the year or even 2023 for one.

I have a PC but want to start transitioning from Windows and back to Mac :cool: I want to run both Windows + MacOS and gradually move away from Windows.
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I want a new Mac mini / Mac mini Pro too with lots of USB ports.

I'm not optimistic for one today, but the chances are definitely non-zero. ;)
 
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Can’t wait for the cries of outrage and disappointment that follow every keynote. If any new hardware is announced it will be savaged and denounced as overpriced and underwhelming. These are the MacRumors forums after all.
 
theluggage said:
Well, the Mac Studio is the "Mac Mini Max".
...and a Mac Mini M1 Pro is likely to look like poor bangs-per-buck alongside any M2 Mini which appears in the next 6 months. The longer it doesn't appear, the less likely it is.



As long as Apple supports MacOS on Intel (a clock that can't even begin counting down until the Mac Pro is replaced) - and until everything that matters is Apple Silicon Native - there will be a small demand for Intel Macs. Actually, it's probably worth Apple keeping Intel compatibility indefinitely, so they can jump back to Intel or AMD in the future.
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I didn't suggest M1 PRO Mac mini would hit now. At this point, I would expect M2 Mini if there is an announcement. And whether that's a meaningful M2 or only an M1 with a few tweaks to help rationalize painting a new number on the chip is TBD.

And I personally would LOVE for an Intel Mac to remain in the mix long-term at a price that is not Mac Pro pricing. I miss the flexible option of full Windows and full macOS in ONE computer that was bootcamp. But my own expectations is that that Intel Mini will become a Silicon Mini and macOS will retain the flexibility to hop back to Intel/AMD behind the scenes... much as it had the ability to jump to Intel back when PowerPC was THE brains of Macs.
 
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MLVC said:
Yeah no new leather loops, what is that about? I have to walk around with last winter's collection? Ugh.
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I mostly just meant the fact that they are all color split down the middle. And the color choices are…not what I would have chosen.
 
I haven't read all the replies in this thread...

Has anyone made the comment "Amazon doesn't have to shutdown their website to add new products" yet?

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whiteboytrash said:
10000% agree. M1 and variants will be a 3-4 year cycle.
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"We" used to sling around some rationale for Apple going Silicon so that they could step up the pace of Mac upgrades vs. being stuck on Intel's "slow" once-a-year upgrade cycles at best. Other than witnessing M1 ruling the roost for upwards of 2 years soon, it seems unlikely that (that same) "we" could get behind a 3-4 year cycle... especially while watching the old choice of tech brains getting updated with new generations several times over each of those 3-4 year periods.

My own guess is that M-whatever is supposed to be on an upgrade cycle in lockstep with A-series increments but covid-related events threw initial delays into that plan. As soon as the productive world gets fully back on its feet, I fully assume M-next chips every year if A-next chips hit every year.

That offered though: Apple does have very obvious examples of rolling out Intel Macs and then selling them "as is" for many years. Just look at that Intel Mac Mini in the store right now. I'll simply hope that there is zero planning to get on a 3-4 year cycle in general. In exchange for getting to feel like we have "latest & greatest" for longer than a few months typical of this industry, it would seem that things would seem pretty boring rolling into years 2-3-4... and some envy of the former rolling out several generations of new tech during the time might press the defenders to have to work too many volunteer hours and come up with all kinds of creative spin why 3-or-4-year-old tech is better than new.
 
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Any guesses on whether the 10.2 iPad 9th gen will get upgraded? I just bought a new one from walmart for $309 and wondering if I should have waited
 
I understand back in the day they took the store down because that was how they actually updated it. But they do it now because it's free advertising. MacRumors and every other Mac blog will write about it and it gets fans hyped. But that's all it is: marketing. They don't actually need to take it down to update anymore, lol.
 
Mr. Dee said:
I have enough Macs as it is. Honestly don’t see any interim Apple hardware I would want until my self imposed upgrade schedule next year fall. But I sure will have something fun to look forward in the couple weeks when I go to the Apple store.

If it’s the new MacBook Air, I still don’t think it’s M2 based. It’s gonna cause such a awkwardness in the product line especially when customers about make a potential purchase.

Why does the powerful MacBook Pros have M1 Pro chips but this has M2? Shouldn’t the M2 be more powerful? Most customers are not gonna break down cores and graphics. They are just seeing M1 and M2, not even the Pro and Max that denotes their capabilities.
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Only "we" get wound up about this. Average Joe doesn't know M1 from M2 or even Silicon from Intel. They can't see what number is painted on chips inside any Apple hardware, nor know that this one has an 8 and that one a 15.

Price & design elements may rule the bulk of Joe purchase decisions. Those slightly more in tune may ask about and covet bigger RAM & storage.

However, once you get much deeper than those details, average Joe likely knows nothing... possibly buying Intel Mac Mini just as readily as Silicon Mini even though the former is years older technology. To them, either purchase is their "new" Mac mini.

"WE" (here) get all wound up about this kind of detail. If this was an actual marketing problem, Apple could just market "Apple Silicon" or "Fast(est) Apple Silicon" or "Magical Apple Silicon" and the underlying numbers painted on chips could be anything. Joe will typically assume higher-priced Mac is a better Mac than lower-priced Mac... or "I like the gold one more than the blue one."

Personally, this year I spent more for an M1 Mac than I've ever spent for any computer. However, if M2 or M50 hit today, I welcome it. Move this along. Bring on big advances of new tech. I'd like my next Mac to feel like a huge jump forward from this one... something that doesn't seem very likely if there are only minor evolutionary gains over slow, "upgrade everything to one level before stepping forward with anything" cycles.
 
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