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Apple's Online Store Now Offering New 5K 27-Inch LG UltraFine Display

HiRez said:
Is Apple incapable of making a nice looking, decent quality display for $1500-$2000? I don’t get it. Almost no one is going to buy those $6,000 displays (with stand), it’s simply a non-starter for the vast majority of people, including non-institutional Mac Pro buyers.
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The Pro XDR display is specifically designed for video production and compared to those other displays, its price is an absolute steal. Anyone who is not a video production engineer buying it would be doing so for bragging rights or they are proof of the adage "a fool and his money are soon parted".


Nik said:
That is a lame excuse. They can even integrate cameras in smaller bezels on MacBooks.
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True, but the Mac FaceTime cameras suck. So perhaps this one is better.


gugy said:
Come on Apple, just release a 5k display with a stand and nano tech. You have the tech on the iMac, just make it stand alone. How difficult can that be? Yes, I know you are afraid will canabalize Apple XDR display sales.
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Cannibalizing XDR displays has nothing to do with it (see above).

If Apple released a new 5K Thunderbolt display using the iMac 5K case, it would be $1499 so this forum would riot based on the price (for $300 more I get a whole computer!) and bitch about the design (such thick bezels! Such a fat chin!).

Considering the original Apple Thunderbolt Display was considered a failure due to price and design, why go through it a second time? Better to let LG take the risks, I imagine.
 
sub150 said:
I hate integrated webcams too! They are useless.
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That's your opinion. With new bezel-less displays, there's no way to add a webcam without blocking the screen or using a desk-cluttering tripod. Plus, the only major company that makes external webcams anymore is Logitech and a half-decent one starts at $90 and is flashy chrome plastic in a design left over from a 2000 Ford Taurus.

You don't realize the situation until you have to get one for client videoconferencing.
 
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otternonsense said:
In fact, that must have been the first time in a WWDC announcement ever that even the die-hard audience (finally) did not react with vacuous cheers and adulation but mumbling. And I hope it's only the beginning of more dissent. Apple's pricing hubris is mindboggling and it shows no signs of abating.

https://mashable.com/video/crowd-reaction-mac-pro-monitor-stand-wwdc-2019/?europe=true
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Blame the stupid investors system, wish there was a more balanced public system, like getting interest on savings, do away with the sharemarket and all other crap, it's breaking perfectly fine brands/companies, system is too greedy.


ruka.snow said:
We aren't talking about Apple's screen(which may perhaps be up to the task). This is a LG screen.
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The article mentions Apple displays, it's on topic.
 
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Rayban said:
Edit: It does! Wow what a revolutionary and bold move by LG!
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Not just that, but it has pushed the boundaries of technology once more and included a stand and a VESA mount ($200 extra with the new Apple HDXsuper++whatever)... Courageous!
 
wellander1 said:
Cool.
But how good are LG products?
I never owned LG products. But it is tempting.
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Owned both the 5k and 4k models before these. Both have been solid. Had an A and B variant of each too. Currently still own one and it's a fantastic image quality, a simple design...... whether you like it or not is up to you, and everything works as advertised. Bought an LG with similar design, albeit lower resolution, to change my setup recently and once you have either of these models I mentioned there's no going back, it went right back in it's box unfortunately. Now off to find another 27" 5K. If anyone has one, PM me btw. :)
 
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konqerror said:
That's your opinion. With new bezel-less displays, there's no way to add a webcam without blocking the screen or using a desk-cluttering tripod. Plus, the only major company that makes external webcams anymore is Logitech and a half-decent one starts at $90 and is flashy chrome plastic in a design left over from a 2000 Ford Taurus.

You don't realize the situation until you have to get one for client videoconferencing.
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Not yet, in several years there will be behind the display cameras, wait until microLED hits the streets, most of the space is empty space, lots of view through space for a camera behind the display to work.
 
nutmac said:
Even LG's non-Apple oriented monitors are much better looking, such as 32UL950-W. I don't know why LG has to offer such an ugly looking thing to design conscious Apple consumers.
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That's much better, there must be a reason for it, maybe LG thinks it's for conservative (design wise) companies, they are wrong though if that's the case, people who buy Apple also like design, well, most of them.
 
otternonsense said:
The ugliest duckling of third party screens, consistently on the webshop of the company that once defined personal computing aesthetics and brand style. Yuck
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OK - but LG displays are some of the best in the world and they're probably the best manufacturer of premium display panels. I have 4 of their OLED TV's and they're beyond fantastic.
 
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CWallace said:
The Pro XDR display is specifically designed for video production and compared to those other displays, its price is an absolute steal. Anyone who is not a video production engineer buying it would be doing so for bragging rights or they are proof of the adage "a fool and his money are soon parted".
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Yes, I understand that, but that’s my point. The number of people who really need such a reference quality display is minuscule. Hell, I’m in that business and I don’t even need one. Most broadcast video engineers do not have $40K monitors, they don’t have cheap monitors, but they get by with something less insane. And even then, why make the only monitor you sell only applicable to broadcast video engineers and the like? Again, that is a TINY percentage of people who might buy a Mac Pro.
 
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H3LL5P4WN said:
Because of the camera bezel, the monitor looks like it's upside down.

No G-Sync or FreeSync? No sale.



Because camera.
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Why on earth would a monitor that caters to pros have G-Sync? Go buy a gaming monitor and you'll be much better off for that purpose.
 
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justperry said:
Have to agree here, $999 for a stand is beyond stupidity, I hope they tank hard.
I do understand it has to cost something, must be made with "expensive" materials like aluminium...;), I think the problem is they over engineered it, might have cost millions to design and develop, and then there's Joni's wage...;)
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Those who can afford the new Apple monitor can afford a $1000 stand. The stand is not the problem here. The problem is that Apple disrespects a large percentage of its Mac customers by refusing to offer a replacement for the Cinema displays.
 
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justperry said:
Have to agree here, $999 for a stand is beyond stupidity, I hope they tank hard.
I do understand it has to cost something, must be made with "expensive" materials like aluminium...;), I think the problem is they over engineered it, might have cost millions to design and develop, and then there's Joni's wage...;)
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yeah the XDR display is not for u, so even the stand is not for u. its for professionals. REAL ones
 
TechRemarker said:
Many people will buy the 6K monitor as remember it's a reference monitor, so the ones people buy currently for that cost around 40K, and are not as powerful. They are not aimed towards regular consumers. But yes, there is clearly a market for Apple to make a monitor aimed at consumers. Most of us assumed it was coming later this year or early next year along side the new 16in MacBook Pro, but with today's announcement that means perhaps that monitor from Apple is not as imminent. For people in need of a monitor tough to know whether to settle for this one, or way an unknown amount of time for Apple's eventual one.
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Apple will sell fewer than 100,000 of the reference monitor. At 5,000 per monitor, it’s less than half a billion dollars in gross revenue and about $100 million in profits. Hardly worth the effort for Apple. Had they released a 5K monitor for the masses, they could sell 2 million of them in the first year and at least half a million every year thereafter. The 5K monitor for the masses would be a much
more lucrative product for Apple provided it cost $999.
 
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HiRez said:
Is Apple incapable of making a nice looking, decent quality display for $1500-$2000? I don’t get it. Almost no one is going to buy those $6,000 displays (with stand), it’s simply a non-starter for the vast majority of people, including non-institutional Mac Pro buyers.
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You know that display is made for video and movie makers needing to verify their image for production. It's not made for ordinary people browsing the internet.
 
CWallace said:
Cannibalizing XDR displays has nothing to do with it (see above).

If Apple released a new 5K Thunderbolt display using the iMac 5K case, it would be $1499 so this forum would riot based on the price (for $300 more I get a whole computer!) and bitch about the design (such thick bezels! Such a fat chin!).

Considering the original Apple Thunderbolt Display was considered a failure due to price and design, why go through it a second time? Better to let LG take the risks, I imagine.
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I would not complain if it came with a stand and nanotech. I get that $300 more gets you an iMac sentiment.
The majority of pros won't buy the XDR. Heck, I am a pro and have a hard time spending $7k on it (stand/nano). While I get the idea it is a steal for what it delivers, a lot of pros will be satisfied with the iMac 5K display.
XDR is a dream but not to the reach of a vast segment of the market.
 
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