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Apple's Opening Court Statement Focuses on Samsung's Radical Shift in Phone Design
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I don't understand people who think this lawsuit is unjustified.
Apple is not stifling competition, it's forcing it. Saying there is no other way to design a phone shows lack of imagination. What people are really saying is there is no other way to design an iPhone and they've already accepted iPhones as the way it should be.
If Samsung wants to compete, they will stop copying and innovate. They can create something completely different that is nothing like the iPhone and blow away the world. Instead of trying to copy Apple's products, they should copy Apple's business strategy.
When Steve Jobs came back in the 90s, the company was on the verge on bankruptcy. He didn't copy what Microsoft was doing. He went the other way, saying that Apple had forgotten who Apple is and completely restructured the company without any influence from his competitors.
I bet we see more innovative devices coming out of Samsung as a direct result of this lawsuit.
Apple is not stifling competition, it's forcing it. Saying there is no other way to design a phone shows lack of imagination. What people are really saying is there is no other way to design an iPhone and they've already accepted iPhones as the way it should be.
If Samsung wants to compete, they will stop copying and innovate. They can create something completely different that is nothing like the iPhone and blow away the world. Instead of trying to copy Apple's products, they should copy Apple's business strategy.
When Steve Jobs came back in the 90s, the company was on the verge on bankruptcy. He didn't copy what Microsoft was doing. He went the other way, saying that Apple had forgotten who Apple is and completely restructured the company without any influence from his competitors.
I bet we see more innovative devices coming out of Samsung as a direct result of this lawsuit.
So when a touch screen phone takes the world by storm, such as the iphone did, of course everyone will implement touch screens.
Apple, how many ways do you expect a touch screen phone to look like? Apple is overreaching and it coms off to me that they think they should be the only ones able to use a pure touch phone
Not exactly. Apple doesn't want to be the only company with a pure touch-screen phone. It just wants to be compensated by other companies that steal their ideas.
What's so groundbreaking about an unstable, popular OS that is a copy of the Apple one? There was nothing new about Windows other than its popularity.
Winning these lawsuits is actually in the longer term bad news for everyone including Apple.
What it can do is encourage a bunch of patent trolls to patent a lot of smartphone related stuff. Then sue the likes of Apple. You can bet your bottom dollar Samsung is already asking their staff to file for any small idea. And at some point the circle is going to come around and Apple's going to find itself at the receiving end. But unlike other companies where smartphones/device are only part of the business for Apple it is almost the entire business. So a string of loses could end up being quite serious for them.
What it can do is encourage a bunch of patent trolls to patent a lot of smartphone related stuff. Then sue the likes of Apple. You can bet your bottom dollar Samsung is already asking their staff to file for any small idea. And at some point the circle is going to come around and Apple's going to find itself at the receiving end. But unlike other companies where smartphones/device are only part of the business for Apple it is almost the entire business. So a string of loses could end up being quite serious for them.
Case-in-point: the windows phone. It's a touchscreen phone that doesn't look anything like the iPhone.
So I'm guessing apple should get sued if they stretch the iphone to 16:9 format by whoever did it first? Or maybe they should be sued for coming out with a touch sreen phone after someone else?
seems a lot of the Apple engineers and designers weren't on the same page as their legal team in a deposition
It's quite obvious Samsung copies Apple in almost everything:
That is absolutely nuts. Apple needs to show those pics in court. It's so blatant it's embarrassing.
iphone is number one phone on earth.. other companies are bound to copy cause their financiers will not want t take the risk of making unique designees t cause they know that the public wants the iphone and the iphone look...lolol
people that don't understand why Apple is this aggressive clearly don't understand at least one of below things
* they do not know what it is to be passionate about something
* they don't understand market mechanism.
* they lack designer knowledge (in either way)
and don't give me the 'iphone design is the new standard' because that's the answer of a company that can't innovate
* they do not know what it is to be passionate about something
* they don't understand market mechanism.
* they lack designer knowledge (in either way)
and don't give me the 'iphone design is the new standard' because that's the answer of a company that can't innovate
Give it time and Apple will sue. IF and only IF Windows phones/manufacturers pose a threat.
Samsung is getting hit hard because quite frankly - they are the biggest and most viable competitor to Apple right now with their Android devices.
It's no accident. It's not random.
Apple wants to stop Samsung from eating at their market share.
While I agree that this maybe the case.
What Apple is effectively saying though is that since they were the first POPULAR usage of the technology, they should be the exclusive use of the technology / design.
See the fault of this logic and why people are getting frustrated with Apple?
What would have happened in the PC industry if Apple had blocked every single GUI that came out after them from being sold? Because thats what they're effectively attempting to do with mobile devices. "Candy bar touchscreen phones didnt do well till we sold them, so nobody should be able to sell them but us!"\
If there's a legitimate technological innovation that Apple invented then they have every right to protect it. But Popularization of an idea and suing everyone else for following suit with the concept isn't right.
Apple did not invent any of the cellular technology in their phone.
Apple did not invent the glass of their phone
Apple did not invent the touch capability of their phone
Apple did not invent multi touch technology and gestures.
Apple did not invent a rectangular phone shape.
Apple did not invent putting a camera in a phone.
Apple did not invent the grid shortcut layout.
Apple did not invent the ARM cpu, nor the multicore ARM cpu.
Apple did not invent high DPI screens.
Apple did not invent ... (add your own).
Yet apple filed 200 patents on the iphone and has proceeded to sue the crap out of Samsung for using one or many of these technologies, as well as many other manufacturers.
This is why there's such negativity towards Apple whenever theres' new news on lawsuits.
Do i Think that Samsung changed gears post iphone? Yes. Do I believe that their marketing gimmickry has copied many of apples designs? yes. There is clear inspiration.
But like so many have said, Many of the things Apple is claiming are not their own to claim. the list of things goes on and on. The only lawsuit so far I think has had any legitimacy was the slide to unlock feature that Android instituted and they should have come up with another unlock mechanism.
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You're right, but the point is that in order to compete with Apple they copied both the hardware (samsung) and the OS (Android) to get to there. The question is whether or not you believe this is perfectly okay. If you think this is the way things should be, fine. We'll have to wait and see how the jury feels about it. I really don't know how they'll decide, but it will be interesting to find out.
You're right, but the point is that in order to compete with Apple they copied both the hardware (samsung) and the OS (Android) to get to there. The question is whether or not you believe this is perfectly okay. If you think this is the way things should be, fine. We'll have to wait and see how the jury feels about it. I really don't know how they'll decide, but it will be interesting to find out.
Why - none of the pictures shown there have anything to do with the three major trade dress issues that the trial is based on.
I am not really sure where the entire "you're either with us or against" mentality comes from. It is nice to see a few of the actors on Page 1 again though.
While we are at it, the community is its own worst enemy.
Baloney. How many CEOs leave due to "personal reasons?" Or to "spend more time with family?" Never because they "boinked the VP's wife" or were "utterly incompetent." Companies tend to avoid airing their dirty laundry in public, something you should know working in PR. The "official statement" at Schmidt's departure offers no credible evidence whatsoever about the actual circumstances or internal opinion of the man.
Ubuntus UI looks like windows ? Have you seen Ubuntu? Have you seen windows? They look nothing alike.
And yes, i know everyone takes cues from successful products. Apple included. I'm not the one having a problem admitting that. Why are you trying to argue that Samsung took cues from the lg prada and not from iPhone? Its blatant that they're copying Apple. And that's no big deal because Apple copies plenty too.
Why try to argue that that's not what's happening? That's rdf. Not what i said.