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Apple's PC Sales Fall Behind ASUS as Buyers Await Next-Generation MacBook Pro and Other New Models
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I'm thinking that Apple knows that iphone 7 is a boring upgrade, so during the fall conference they will introduce all sorts of new hardware .
- Mac Book Pro
- ipad mini
- ipod touch
- iphone 7
- Iphone 7 +
- iMac
- Mac Pro
- Apple Watch 2
- New Hardware: Mac Nano ( Mac Mini with Apple TV 4 built in with some features of amazon echo )
- Mac Book Air
- Thunderbolt display
- ipod shuffle
- ipod nano
- mac mini
This, so much. Apple minimizes selling on specs. There's no reason to erode margins when the improvements in processor tech are marginal at best, with the iGPU the
You're completely ignoring emerging markets (i.e. India and China) whose middle class is growing like crazy and are buying up Apple produces for status symbols.
Forgot to quote this topic. I fully agree that OS X is not optimized. Snow Leopard was incredible. It still is. After 10.6, Mac OS started getting sluggish. It's painful now.
New versions of Mac OS do NOT Mac existing Macs run "better". They make them run WORSE. I love the full screen and workspace switching features in Mavericks but my 2009 MacBook Pro is 50% slower on it compared to Snow Leopard. Booting Mavericks is insanely slow. El Capitan is not much worse, amazingly, but its Safari bugs keep me from upgrading. Looks like I never will upgrade because Sierra now has development priority at Apple, and it will NOT run on my 2009 MacBook Pro.
I don't know what it's like to run a brand new machine. See my last post for why. Maybe everything is grand on a new machine (but that's no reason to let the system become inefficient and bloated like the Microsoft OS I abandoned; Mac OS is headed to the same fate at the rate Apple is going with yearly OS turnover that adds useless features and iPhone/watch integration but does zero optimization).
Thing is, I can't afford to find out if a new machine is smooth as glass to operate (and if El Capitan is less buggy on a new machine, which I doubt since I'm running iOS 9.x on a brand new iPhone and it's buggy as hell)... unless that new machine supports the ecosystem of software and hardware I need to resume being a content creator. Otherwise, I'll just continue becoming less and less active in the computer arts because I'm not going back to Windows. My patience has been thoroughly exhausted. Weirdly, I've been waiting for Apple to fill in the gap for many years and there's still no solid sign they ever will. Maybe "defeat" is another form of patience.
All while keeping a desktop operating system market share of 49% for Windows 7. That's like running new Macs with Snow Leopard from 2009. What's the latest chipset good for? Absolutely nothing!
I'm still surprised PC makers can charge anything. Their business should be over by now.
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Pro guys are abandoning ship. Mac Pro hasn't been updated since its introduction.
Skylake Surface Book and Surface Pros are more impressive. Even HP unleaded the 'thinnest' notebook with a full mobile Core i5 processor.
And when they finally release the thing, it would be too late, too expensive, and too few ports.
Oh, and don't forget that 5400rpm drive in the standard config of the iMac. What a joke!
Skylake Surface Book and Surface Pros are more impressive. Even HP unleaded the 'thinnest' notebook with a full mobile Core i5 processor.
And when they finally release the thing, it would be too late, too expensive, and too few ports.
Oh, and don't forget that 5400rpm drive in the standard config of the iMac. What a joke!
Yeah, no one can argue with you there. That's just appalling.
THIS
is why the Mac don't get no love:
Things were a lot different back in the G4 era. Those days were fun.
Putting it into perspective, the Mac is merely a gratuity for Apple.
Blame it on the iPhone.
is why the Mac don't get no love:
Things were a lot different back in the G4 era. Those days were fun.
Putting it into perspective, the Mac is merely a gratuity for Apple.
Blame it on the iPhone.
Its sooooooo cute you follow my work, nice to meet a fan! ANYWAY....
Yes. Why not? Maybe they are developing smarter bands and need the hardware and software people. Unlikley but maybe. The other part is if upper management is sooo fixated on the watch and messages....they could be ignoring other teams that need attention.
Its not nonsensical, if leadership is ignoring the other sides of the business, than all the work going on in other divisions are not getting the attention they need. While Timmy and Jonny are attending watch events and pride parades....there could be designs rotting on a desk waiting for approval. You can't do anything unless you have approval.
At any rate, the fact still stands that the bulk of the MacBook Pro line is not really capable of running pro software. No matter how full or empty the Kool-Aid glass is....it is NOT able to do pro work. Intel Intergrated Graphics is not PROFESSIONAL!
I don't think it`s so much the tech, as the average potential owner does not dig so deep. More the price point. Windows OEM`s are producing ever better hardware, beating Apple at it`s own game, offering greater utility and usability, with better pricing.
Last computer I personally bought is Windows based as Apple simply do not produce what I want, nor do I see Apple`s current Mac lineup as representing value. Even with new models looming I don't see it improving Apple`s situation with the Mac, unless Apple changes it`s PC paradigm; basic clamshell portables, desktops that offer near zero upgradability combined, with price points that in many economies are excessive, if so nothing changes, likely including Apple`s sales figures for the Mac.
Apple got away with it in the past, when the competition was just producing black or grey plastic boxes, not so much now. Competition is smarter and more aggressive than ever. The Mac has basically stagnated in the shadow of IOS and Apple`s services, bottom line is that Apple needs to become far more competitive if it wants the average computer user to be interested, and more importantly buy it`s product.
I have little doubt that Apple will respond strongly, I have little doubt this will please the majority of Apple Mac fans, equally I seriously doubt it will impress the general buying public any more than the current range does, and that is Apple`s target audience not, those who are already "hooked"
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Yet, that 9% is 25 Billion dollars, I don't think any company is going to ignore that amount of sales, regardless if another sector is producing more $$
I know a bunch of students entering first year engineering, normally I try to push them towards the MacBook Pro, this year I've been telling them all to stay away.
I'm still using my 2011 MBP. Normally I'd replace it every 3 years, so that would have been 2014 and I'd already be eyeing the new models with plans to buy again next year. In 2014, anything would have been a step down for me and even in 2016 there's nothing from Apple that's really a clear upgrade for me.
My next computer will be a windows gaming laptop. And it will be my first ever non-Apple laptop.
Have you tried swapping out your hard drive for an SSD? Just did that to my wife's 2011 13" and the thing runs like its brand new again.
Really? In what way is Windows a disaster? It's a sleek, smooth, modern OS with a lot of very functional features. They actually got the start interface to work really well as an app launcher with live tiles. You really should take a look at windows because when you argue from a position of ignorance you just look foolish.
OSX on the other hand has become a disaster as Apple tries to cripple it down into all the same limitations as their iPhone OS. The file manager is a nightmare to use because Apple would rathe the users not even have access to the file system. While windows has added a lot of modern features, OSX is turning into a iPhone accessory. A watch to unlock it, an iPhone to use the new payment feature online. Transfer your documents to an iPad to edit? Why wouldn't you just have a very capable computer to edit them on?
OSX is a deliberately crippled version of an OS that was fantastic last decade. They want to push you onto iOS and it shows. Windows is designed to be a powerful OS.
And the best part. OSX El Capitan crashes like it's windows 3.1. Window 10 is pretty much rock-stable.
Lenovo is on skylake, yet is seeing a decrease in sales. So simply updating the components is not enough, obviously. I'm not saying Apple should drag their feet like they are doing now, but it does not guarantee an increase in sales.
I've never agreed with Apple releasing everything at same time. The holidays are the best for any given product but you also want to be able to selectively market key products.
Move the iphone to a Spring launch (May). Move back WWDC to give out the beta earlier. Focus marketing on it.
Watch and ipads: Late Fall. These are the ones easier to gift anyways for the holidays. Phones involve cellular plans. This gives Apple time to focus on ipad updates for iOS. These are products retailers love to promote during holidays.
Macs: Back to school time (July/Aug). Focus marketing on Macs. Mac OS beta from winter WWDC should be golden.
Macs need their own event. I truly think Apple makes (has made) a big mistake by not refocusing both marketing and events solely on Macs. Plus this staggered release throughout year makes it easier on most people to buy given they only have so much to spend at a given time.
What strange logic.
So if company A(for apple) can't sell obsolete junk, and company B(for Lenovo) can't sell modern hardware, what does that tell you about company A and modern hardware?
Clearly you're not saying it means company A won't be able to sell modern hardware. And you're not saying that company A should drag their feet on modern hardware. So your entire post is a null statement.
Apple should release modern hardware (which doesn't just mean a switch to Skylake). They should sell a machine that is more capable than what they sold before. And 2012 was peak Mac hardware. There is absolutely zero reason to buy any computer Apple sells in 2016 over what they sold in 2012. The 2012's were better machines with a better lineup of options.
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Pie graphs are fun. But let's compare yours to the 2016 version.
So...iPhones are a smaller piece. iPads are 25% smaller. Macs have grown.
And...the entire Pie is smaller. They iPhone will go the way of Blackberry/Nokia/Motorola/etc. It's only a matter of time and the way the cell phone market has always been, phones are a fashion statement, just look at all the people here who want a new "look" more than anything else. Fashions become passe very suddenly. Tablets were a fad who's time has passed. And Apple wants to kill off the Mac.
and actual Facts.
this is like the 3rd quarter straight of declining Mac sales. overall Mac Sales are down YoY over the last two years
Ignorance.
Win7 might be at 49% still, but unlike Apple computers which are dealing with a few million total machines, running almost exclusively to the consumer market, its much easier to have a quicker update.
But Windows is installed on billions of computers around the world. Including the majority of Corporate and Enterprise (who won't upgrade because policy).
Nevermind the fact that even with ONLY 17% Win10 is installed on over 270 MILLION computers. which, believe it or not is higher than the total OSx user base.
This is not a judgement over quality or peoples preference, just that you cannot just throw a number liek you did as some magical claim here. your point was not able to be proven.
It also doesn't help that Apple's OSx has started seeing similar trend, where more percentage of users are staying on previous versions than ever before. El Capitan was slower to adopt than Yosemite by users, and the Percentage of El Capitan users are lower at it's life, than Yosemite.
