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Who cares, let the EU worry about the risks, they created the problem. Give them their own version of iOS and let them go to town.
 
The only risk for Apple is loss of revenue. Everything else they claim is a diversion or just a blatant lie. The Vision Pro is crippled by this even more so than the iPhone/iPad. I'm returning my Vision Pro due to its limitations, among other things.
What limitations did you find?
 
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If Apple allows some users to install crapware, they must provide tools for the rest of users to protect themselves from that. Developers should allow to block any potentially compromised data coming from a 3rd party origin at user’s discretion.

For example, I wouldn’t want to see malicious posts created by an app version that wasn’t downloaded from Apple AppStore. I need a kill switch for that in Settings. It shouldn’t be hard for developers to implement this, and it should be mandatory. Similarly to the “ask not track” feature Apple introduced earlier.

Otherwise, it’s time go analogue or completely dark.
I have an old rotary dial phone in the cupboard, still works, swing by and grab it, I’ll put the jug on. If the EU continues to destroy security for some whingers to have choice then the EU better come up with their own solution.
 
I have an old rotary dial phone in the cupboard, still works, swing by and grab it, I’ll put the jug on. If the EU continues to destroy security for some whingers to have choice then the EU better come up with their own solution.
That will affect everyone, including you, and not just the EU users. You will be exposed to the same potentially unsafe data created by some dodgy EU user or a dodgy app with some malicious code coming from a happy nothing suspecting EU user who is happy to go around App Store.
 
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99% of regular people will not choose another App Store because there is no need.

You nailed it... the loudest voices demanding this cannot show a legit reason to allow it. they only want to pirate games using emulators Apple wont allow in App Store.

ask them what app the NEED they cant get now :)
I'll bite. Some years ago I developed an alternative client for my school's registry (seeing as the official client sucked hard). I could install it on my friends' Android phones, but my friends with iPhones were out of luck. Had Apple allowed sideloading, I could've shared my app with all my friends indiscriminately.

I don't expect you to change your mind, but some of y'all will say that I'm lying. :rolleyes:
 
Yup. It’s not like I’m an expert or anything, I’m sure there are parts of it that I’m misunderstanding or completely ignoring, but I at least looked at the changes and read discussions of the changes from people smarter than myself before I formed an opinion on them.

To be fair, they’re also reading a discussion of the changes by people smarter than themselves. Unfortunately, they've long since formed the opinion that Apple is always right.
 
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Emulators need ROMs to do anything, but are never supplied with ROMs (aside from the odd modern, free to play game). You can legally rip your own ROMs from media you own though. There’s nothing illegal about emulators themselves, unless they contain copyright code (so they don’t).
I know
 

So you understand:

- Emulators don't come with ROMs.

- The user may well have the rights to any ROMs they use.

Yet still wrote: "Surely you understand why Apple doesn't allow emulators, which require ROMs they don't have the rights to, on their App Store"?

Apple aren't supplying the ROMs. Just like VLC doesn't come bundled with movies.
 
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Add Kodi to the list of apps that should be a no brainer for iOS, but apparently Apple have decided can't be on the App Store. What's up with that?
 
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so been having this chat on here and the only people wanting Apple allow sideloading are to put game emulators on it.
No. If I want to emulate games, I'd gladly do it on a Rasperry Pi or mini PC (maybe my Mac mini PC).
Playing old non-touch enabled games on a touchscreen device is and will remain a sub-par experience.

I fully agree with the EU commission: There should not be a gatekeeper that controls (and charges) for all software installation and digital services provided on a general-purpose computer like the iPhone.

When Spotify provide an expensive service to me, Apple does not deserve a 30% cut of revenue. They deserve no more from it than when I buy a physical book through the Amazon app - or hail a ride through the Uber app

And withholding in-app account management features and purchasing options (without paying such cut) is not only anti-consumer. It is also anti-competitive. Especially when Apple themselves have begun competing in most digital goods/services they're charging third-parties for.
Apple sell fewer phones and make more money than all the Android market combined.
They certainly don't need all that app store revenue rent to maintain or innovate the platform.
The difference is that while me buying Apple products is an optional relationship, the EU commission forcing Apple to design their phone however they want is not.
Practically, the purchase of a smart phone is non-optional in today's society, given how how much of life practically depends on it.
 
Then there is this that Apple patched. Only six months ago. Is everyone patched? Are there others unknown? I would be surprised if there wasn’t.
It just goes to show that the real security issues aren't in third-party apps - they are in first-party libraries.
That will affect everyone, including you, and not just the EU users. You will be exposed to the same potentially unsafe data created by some dodgy EU user or a dodgy app with some malicious code coming from a happy nothing suspecting EU user who is happy to go around App Store.
There are enough other platforms where that could happen - and it includes macOS by Apple's own admission.
 
That is fine. Then don't blame Apple when your iPhone or iPad goes wonky and requires a complete reinstall of the OS.

Apple has protected their ecosystem for years to minimize problems for the users. Opening up the system to apps that have not been vetted by Apple is not a good idea. Think about Windows driver problems and user software. Or better yet, look at the problems with nefarious apps in the Android world.

This decision was made by government workers, technological clods, most of whom still have their VCR flashing 12:00.
Just don’t download the app then.
My family have had androids for years & never had any problems.
 
Playing old non-touch enabled games on a touchscreen device is and will remain a sub-par experience.

It's bloody brilliant on a 13" iPad Pro. It's got the horsepower to run full MAME, along with whatever CRT shaders you like. The glossy 4:3 Retina screen is perfectly suited to the task too.

It's particularly handy for vertically scrolling shooters, as you can just rotate the screen 90 degrees. FB Neo works better for that, though, as its scanline filters rotate with the screen (unlike MAME's).
 
When Spotify provide an expensive service to me, Apple does not deserve a 30% cut of revenue. They deserve no more from it than when I buy a physical book through the Amazon app - or hail a ride through the Uber app.

Quite. It's pure greed.

And withholding in-app account management features and purchasing options (without paying such cut) is not only anti-consumer. It is also anti-competitive. Especially when Apple themselves have begun competing in most digital goods/services they're charging third-parties for. [emphasis mine]

This.
 
It's bloody brilliant on a 13" iPad Pro
When calling it "sub-par", I as thinking of iPhones and actually using touch controls on touch screens (for games not developed for them).

Fully agree that an iPad would otherwise make for a cracking retro gaming device - and the 4:3 screen being preferable to most notebook displays. I'd still pair it with a Bluetooth gamepad though. :)

Side note: speaking of game controllers: yet another thing where it took Apple years to finally abandon their scheme of mandating use of their proprietary software (drivers) and charging (MFi) licensing fees on every game controller made for and used with their devices.

In this instance, it fortunately was just too unpopular with consumers and Apple unable to compete so didn't require government regulation. (Or, if you want to look at it differently, they eventually preferred the sweet gaming app dollars over a few on every proprietary controller).
 
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When calling it "sub-par", I as thinking of iPhones and actually using touch controls on touch screens (for games not developed for them).

Fully agree that an iPad would otherwise make for a cracking retro gaming device - and the 4:3 screen being preferable to most notebook displays. I'd still pair it with a Bluetooth gamepad though. :)

Side note: speaking of game controllers: yet another thing where it took Apple years to finally abandon their scheme of charging (MFi) licensing fees for every proprietary game controller made and used with their devices.

Oh sure, I never game on the iPhone. And use an 8bitdo Pro 2 with the iPad. I used AltStore to install RetroArch.

Agree with the MFi thing. I had a SteelSeries controller at one point. Had the same buttons as existing BT controllers like the DS3, only with less functions, so was completely redundant. Just generating more landfill.
 
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Add Kodi to the list of apps that should be a no brainer for iOS, but apparently Apple have decided can't be on the App Store. What's up with that?
Isn’t this the Kodi app?

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They do make it for iOS (and every other operating system in existence), but iOS must be jailbroken to run it.
I think it’s because it can run any 3rd party extension outside of app-store checks. But don't worry, you’ll probably be able to get it on an alt App Store.
 
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