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Apple's Phil Schiller Initially Opposed 27% App Store Fee on External Purchases
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It’s only price discrimination because Apple are making it that wayYeah and YouTube could do the same so as not to price discriminate.
Here’s me thinking YouTube chose how to price its product, not Apple!It’s only price discrimination because Apple are making it that way
If Apple were pricing the product there would be no price discrimination. So actually let’s have it so Apple prices the product, it would be better for us consumers 😀
If they offer the same price on iOS then companies like Netflix would lose money hence why Netflix & Spotify no longer offer that option & it’s the reason why YouTube premium is dearer on iOS because of inapp purchase price. The fact you can’t acknowledge that says it allHere’s me thinking YouTube chose how to price its product, not Apple!
If Apple were pricing the product there would be no price discrimination. So actually let’s have it so Apple prices the product, it would be better for us consumers 😀
Let’s have Apple set the price of Netflix higher for everyone then 😀. Problem solved! No price discrimination and Netflix doesn’t lose money. Win win!If they offer the same price on iOS then companies like Netflix would lose money hence why Netflix & Spotify no longer offer that option & it’s the reason why YouTube premium is dearer on iOS because of inapp purchase price. The fact you can’t acknowledge that says it all
That is essentially what they would be doing if they still offered inapp purchases hence why they no longer do.Let’s have Apple set the price of Netflix higher for everyone then 😀. Problem solved! No price discrimination and Netflix doesn’t lose money. Win win!
Exactly. YouTube should follow the same example so they don’t look greedy. Or YouTube could just make the prices the same so they don’t look greedy.That is essentially what they would be doing if they still offered inapp purchases hence why they no longer do.
Although removing in app purchases and forcing customers onto a less convenient path does make these companies look greedy. They deliberately make your experience worse to line their own pockets with more money.
If they made their product the same price then they would lose money on iOS because of the 30% inapp purchase price.Exactly. YouTube should follow the same example so they don’t look greedy. Or YouTube could just make the prices the same so they don’t look greedy.
Why should they raise the price everywhere else just to suit apples pricing policy
That sounds like a them being greedy problem not a consumer problem.If they made their product the same price then they would lose money on iOS because of the 30% inapp purchase price.
Why should they raise the price everywhere else just to suit apples pricing policy
Paying Apple is just a cost of doing business, the same way paying for staff, bandwidth and electricity is. The cost to pay Apple should be built into the price of the product. If it’s not that’s a YouTube and Netflix problem, not a consumers problem.
So they should lose money just to use apples inapp purchase system then?That sounds like a them being greedy problem not a consumer problem.
Paying Apple is just a cost of doing business, the same way paying for staff, bandwidth and electricity is. The cost to pay Apple should be built into the price of the product.
Nope, they should price their product so that they don’t lose money and don’t discriminate on price.So they should lose money just to use apples inapp purchase system then?
Yes but these companies have set their prices but if they use inapp purchases then they would lose money.Nope, they should price their product so that they don’t lose money and don’t discriminate on price.
Hence why 2 of the companies no longer use this system because they don’t want to lose money
Yep, they just set their prices wrong.Yes but these companies have set their prices but if they use inapp purchases then they would lose money.
Hence why 2 of the companies no longer use this system because they don’t want to lose money
No they set their prices right accordingly but if they use inapp purchase they would then make a lose on said product because of the 30% charge.Yep, they just set their prices wrong.
Which proves they set their prices wrong.No they set their prices right accordingly but if they use inapp purchase they would then make a lose on said product because of the 30% charge.
No it proves they set their prices correctly & using that system is forcing them to put their prices up or make a loss on said productWhich proves they set their prices wrong.
Hence the complaint that people have with it.
Exactly, it shows they priced their products wrong.No it proves they set their prices correctly & using that system is forcing them to put their prices up or make a loss on said product
Hence the complaint that people have with it.
Maybe it’s Apple’s pricing model is wrong in this caseExactly, it shows they priced their products wrong.
Not really because Apple doesn’t set the price of YouTube or Netflix’s product to the consumer.Maybe it’s Apple’s pricing model is wrong in this case
Exactly so everywhere they are priced according but for some reason they are priced differently on iOS platform & I wonder what the difference could be?Not really because Apple doesn’t set the price of YouTube or Netflix’s product to the consumer.
They are different because they are trying to gouge iOS customers for more money. And here we are back to the price discrimination issue and YouTube/Netflix trying to be greedy.Exactly so everywhere they are priced according but for some reason they are priced differently on iOS platform & I wonder what the difference could be?
Hence the need for a law to prevent this sort of price discrimination based on how/where the consumer is purchasing. The price of a digital good should be the same everywhere. There’s no reason why the price of YouTube on iOS should be higher than the price of YouTube on Android, the same way there is no reason the price of YouTube should be higher in California vs South Dakota. It’s just YouTube being greedy and price gouging some of their customers.
Right so they are trying to gouge iOS customers for more money.They are different because they are trying to gouge iOS customers for more money. And here we are back to the price discrimination issue and YouTube/Netflix trying to be greedy.
Hence the need for a law to prevent this sort of price discrimination based on how/where the consumer is purchasing. The price of a digital good should be the same everywhere.
Yet Netflix offer their products at the same price on there website as well as through a tv service yet they no longer provide that service too Apple.
And it’s all got too do with the 30% charge nothing more or less
That’s because Netflix have priced their product wrong. They need to factor Apple’s commission into the price they charge all customers else it’s discriminatory or price gouging.Right so they are trying to gouge iOS customers for more money.
Yet Netflix offer their products at the same price on there website as well as through a tv service yet they no longer provide that service too Apple.
And it’s all got too do with the 30% charge nothing more or less
You don’t see Netflix charging customers who use more bandwidth more money on the same plan. The same should apply to iOS customers. But Netflix et al are just being greedy trying to charge one customer base more than another just because of which way that customer wants to buy the product. That should be illegal.
This is ChatGPTs summary of price discrimination. As you can see it’s done to maximise profit of the company that is engaging in the price discrimination based on the platform’s users willingness or ability to pay. I.e., price gouging to pad the company’s own revenue line instead of doing what’s best for the consumer. Netflix, YouTube et al know that iOS users tend to be more wealthy than users of other platforms and are trying to extract more money out of those customers than customers of other platforms. This is not something that should be celebrated or encouraged.Price discrimination based on platform refers to the practice where businesses charge different prices for the same product or service depending on the digital platform or medium through which it is accessed. This can occur due to several factors, such as differences in user demographics, purchasing power, device capabilities, or platform agreements. For example, users accessing a service through a mobile app might be offered a different price compared to those using a desktop website. This strategy allows companies to maximise revenue by tailoring prices to the perceived willingness or ability to pay of users on different platforms.
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so companies need to deliberately raise the prices on everyone just so they can factor in apples 30% inapp purchase.That’s because Netflix have priced their product wrong. They need to factor Apple’s commission into the price they charge all customers else it’s discriminatory or price gouging.
You don’t see Netflix charging customers who use more bandwidth more money on the same plan. The same should apply to iOS customers. But Netflix et al are just being greedy trying to charge one customer base more than another just because of which way that customer wants to buy the product. That should be illegal.
Just so Apple can keep getting their 30% charge.
Company’s have to base their prices on the cost of doing business. Apple’s commission is a cost of doing business. It’s not an optional extra. The cost of Apple’s commission is already built into Netflix and YouTube’s price. These companies just want to double dip to pad their own margins.so companies need to deliberately raise the prices on everyone just so they can factor in apples 30% inapp purchase.
Just so Apple can keep getting their 30% charge.
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