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What could have been cool would be to add a 2nd lightning port right next to the current one. Dual lightning ports piggybacking on the same internals as the current port not adding addition guts inside the device. This would provide all sort of options for accessories.

Tadda! Problem solved and an actual upgrade not a downgrade.
 
I'm surprised Phil hasn't drowned from all the kool aid. Schiller is a fitting last name for a dishonest corporate shill like him though. **** him.

It's cool though, soon they'll probably come out with the Apple mini-van. You'll need it just to carry all the ****ing dongles they have now.
 
Upselling at its best - Phil for President.

It's a work-around NOT a solution.

That product has been around for a long time. People have actually used it the way Phil described. Even with iPhones that have a 3.5 jack. I've personally seen people do it. So what's the problem now?
 
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******** sound, dropouts, more $$$$ and more **** that breaks way easier than an aux cable

Sound is fine - I use it everyday, no issues with sound at all? Dropouts? Never had any either. And - they're cheap on amazon. What is there to break? A bluetooth/aux cable? Had mine over a year - nothing to break, it hides in the center console?
 
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Never going to happen. Is basically building a product to advertise their mistake.

Everything in the box should work without spending additional cash. This is a first for Apple. A very bad first and they should be hammered for it.


It does work right out of the box. Just not for how you want to use it. Ever think that maybe you're the one not doing it right?
 
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Also, I've lost count of how many damaged lightning cables I have lying round the house, that I've had to pay to replace. They are way more flimsy than the 3.5mm jack plug - I can't see how it's an improvement.
Yeah there's the cable itself getting knackered but I was referring to the actual port itself.

Using it as a headphone port will put more strain on the port and break it thus completely writing off your (in the case of 256GB 7+) £919 phone.

This isn't courage it's a joke.

Personally I think it's a ploy to get you to buy not just more accessories but more phones, lets face it the processor bumps aren't really enough of a reason to upgrade anymore (a lot on here seem happy with their 6 speed wise on iOS 10) but now Apple force you to use the only port on the phone to connect your headphones too (wireless is too finicky in most cases) the port will fail prematurely and therefore more iPhone sales either via Genius Bar replacements or forced early upgrades. Quite cleaver really, that's probably why wireless charging isn't in the iPhone because if you break the lightning port but can still charge people can still cling on to their old phones.
 
The best part of that photo is the fact that the Macbook (pro?) is connected to Ethernet with ... yet another adapter replacing a useful port removed from Apple equipment.

I much prefer the thinner profile of the rMBP, and I'm totally fine with the ethernet adapter because I only use it while in my office where wifi is challenged. It sits there as long as I'm working at the office - I don't carry it with me when I travel. I've got adapters for all sorts of devices. It's just part of the how tech changes over time. I would be even more happy if I could get rid of more ports on the rMBP and go to a single cord - maybe include ports on the charger brick so that I have a more clean desk. In this way I really like the rMB, but my aging eyes prefer the larger 15" rMBP screen.
 
Why isn't Apple shipping iPhone WITH AirPods??? If the future is wireless, why include wired accessories???

iMac shipped with wireless mouse and keyboard as standard in 2009. If you wanted to go "old school" you then made your own wired mouse/keyboard purchase.

A wireless future is all talk and no action if Apple isn't including fully wireless products as standard with iPhone.
How are they going to get an extra $150 out of people that way?
 
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$50 for an adapter and $160 for wireless earbuds. Apple has finally gone off the deep end. Makes my decision about not getting the new iPhone a lot easier.

I've been using an iPhone since the 3GS but these last few generations (and further back for the bloated OS) have really got me shaking my head.

Just why the hell is Apple leaving the consumer out of all their design decisions?
 
I do think people will need charging the phone while using the headphone- when they play pose intense games and don't want to bother other people! In this case I don't think the dock will do!!! Apply clearly wants you to get that wireless headphones.

This is no whining. This is a valid request.
 
Done and done. I'm looking forward to the delivery of my brand new iPhone 6S tomorrow. It will be a nice upgrade from my 5.
That is a nice upgrade. You'll probably love touch ID, and Apple Pay and Force Touch are also pretty swell. To say nothing of the 64-bit processor and increased RAM and improved screen and camera and live photos etc etc. :)
 
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Are you going to buy a new computer so your new $150 earphones work with it, or just go with having separate earphones for computer/iPad and iPhone?

I will buy a new computer but not for my earphones. Until I do buy a new computer, yes, I will have two different earphones since I already have wired earphones sitting right here on my desk. When I get the new computer I won't really have much use for the wired ones and from that point on I'll enjoy my audio wirelessly.
 
Wait, so you have to buy a 50 dollar accessory that doesn't work with the lightning earbuds included with the iPhone 7?
No, you don't have to. Belkin sells an adapter for $40 that does what you want.

There will be other options and you have weeks to find out what they are.
 
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Many (if not most) newer cars have USB adaptors that charge and send sound.

My car stereo's usb input worked great with my iPhone 4 but not my iPhone 6. Usb still charges, but audio doesn't work. Same goes for my 5 year old Denon stereo at home. So, Auxiliary cables. I'm not really into upgrading my stereos or using new belkin dongles every time some osx- or hardware-update in the line of phones makes interfacing digitally with my stereo impossible. It's happened to me 4 times now if you include the bedroom clock/stereo with the iphone 4 dock that is now useless without a dongle/adapter with my iphone 6 and the portable speaker with the old 30-pin mount.

The great think about the 1/8" aux jack is that it's pretty darned universal, which you can't say about apple's proprietary and often OS dependent "solutions" to non-problems.
 
And this is going to help me how, when I'm using this device in a car on a 12-hour (battery-draining) trip for both podcasts/music and GPS? This is my iPhone's #1 usage scenario. (My 2015 car doesn't have bluetooth, by the way.) I'm not doing anything hastily, but this is precisely this kind of customer-bullying and taking-for-granted and accessory-marketing baloney that will very likely move me to Android. Grr!!!! As another angry Apple-lover pointed out elsewhere on this forum, why not do away with the alphabet as well? It's analog, inefficient, and _thousands_ of years old.

It didn't take "courage" to make this decision. It took downright arrogance. I've been using nothing but bluetooth headsets for many years now-- I was an early adopter. But.... What about cars?
Sorry if someone has already replied to you, but there's actually a realistic and much more elegant solution for your car.

I use an old 30-pin to Bluetooth adapter, but there are plenty of 3.5mm to Bluetooth adapters too. I much prefer it, since my phone doesn't necessarily have to be tied down somewhere in my car.

They're pretty cheap too
 
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Just like the external CD/DVD drive everyone uses on their new MacBook/MacBook pros

Not just like it. When they eliminated the DVD drive replacement options were faster, cheaper and more convenient. Like external hard drives and USB sticks. And most people already had some of those lying around.

I'd guess the majority of people aren't fully wireless yet. And the alternative is backwards compatibility that's more awkward and unnecessarily costly.

So no, not just like it.
 
$50 for an adapter and $160 for wireless earbuds. Apple has finally gone off the deep end. Makes my decision about not getting the new iPhone a lot easier.

Just why the hell is Apple leaving the consumer out of all their design decisions?

Because first they developed the tech and only after thought how the customer was going to use it and not the other way round as poor Steve taught them.
 
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