Well at least we know apple diextor pay VERY vlose attention to posts on macrumors.
Interesting why Phil didn't tell
us about this yesterday at the Conference.
Maybe he lacked courage...
Well at least we know apple diextor pay VERY vlose attention to posts on macrumors.
Interesting why Phil didn't tell
us about this yesterday at the Conference.
GREAT ... if Phil thinks it's the way to go THEN Phil should be tucking one of those into every 7 box for FREE ... rather than upselling Apple users ... see the difference.
Many (if not most) newer cars have USB adaptors that charge and send sound.
For those saying "just go wireless", "I'll never go back", "Bro you're still using wired headphones?" and referring to the age of the 3.5mm jack (Because Apple did, so sheep gotta sheep...) - many people were happy using those headphones up until the 7 was released.
There is absolutely no question that, if the 7 did retain the jack and there were no leaks, rumours or test parts without such, people would NOT be complaining about its inclusion or promoting Lightning/wireless headphones.
This is not a coincidence or accident.
There is nothing wrong with the 3.5mm jack technology, which is precisely the reason why it hasn't changed in all that time. Apple in their usual wisdom have indeed had the 'courage' to create a problem from nothing, with the intention of generating an aura of sophistication - that less is more, and that we should look up to these guys for their vision.
Wow. Hey wait, Sony produced more waterproofed Xperia phones with 3.5mm jacks time ago.
Since they're including a dongle with the phone I'm willing to give them some credit, but it is baffling to me that they would not place a Lightning port next to the jack. Not elegant or comfortable, but the functionality would be there. Come to think of it, it's actually masterstroke as Apple can now sell docks and dongles galore with ridiculous profit margins.
Speaking of which, Schiller's email is upselling at its worst/best. "Yes there is a solution - please hand over more money for a large piece of plastic with two ports on it.".
Just don't buy the phone folks. If it matters enough to the majority they can simply put their money where their mouth is. And by that I mean keep your current hardware or go to another platform. Ultimately the consumer has the power here. Not Apple.
I will buy a new computer but not for my earphones. Until I do buy a new computer, yes, I will have two different earphones since I already have wired earphones sitting right here on my desk. When I get the new computer I won't really have much use for the wired ones and from that point on I'll enjoy my audio wirelessly.
FWIW, I frequently go on long walks (often starting with a partially depleted battery), listening to audiobooks, podcasts, or music, and often playing Ingress, a walking-around/augmented-reality game that eats battery. So, I'll have my (moderately high-end) earphones and an external battery plugged in at the same time. When I upgrade eventually to an iPhone 7 or next year's model, I'll deal. But there are definite use cases for listening and charging at the same time.I cannot think of the restrictiveness knowing that the iPhone is connected to the charger on a wall/port somewhere and having earphones on, it'd require one to just sit around relentlessly and not even move the head too much.
Shaka, when the the walls fell.
It is illegal to drive with headphones so please forget this, some people might die because of your stupidity
GREAT ... if Phil thinks it's the way to go THEN Phil should be tucking one of those into every 7 box for FREE ... rather than upselling Apple users ... see the difference.
Well, they can buy some AirPods, silly! That way, they can charge their phone and listen at the same time that they drain the batteries in their AirPods! It's the perfect solution.LOL. So what are the people with iPhone 7 and Lightning EarPods gonna do? Stupid Apple.
I am very pissed off at Apple today. I use wired headphones for working out.
I specifically use these Sony sport headphones that fit over the ear and have shallow earbuds which I like. I don't like all these other deep earbuds that force you to shove them deep into your ear canal. This is a healthier option IMHO.
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Second, I don't want to get another Bluetooth headphones because it's yet ANOTHER thing to charge. I like that when I'm ready to go to the gym I just plug this in and I'm good to go.
Third, don't say that I can just buy the 3.5mm to Lightning adapter. I put my iPhone in a exercise belt and the adapter dongle would not allow me to close the zipper.
Fourth, let's say Sony updates these headphones with lightning connector. The Lightning connector is going to be prone to breakage compared to the durable 3.5mm one.
Point is there are a lot of good reasons that 3.5mm headphones are important to people and 'if it aint broke why fit it'? Apple should have gone with USB Type C connector which I feel is more durable before asking people to ditch the 3.5mm jack.
I have the iPhone 6S so I'm good for another 2 years. But if the iPhone 8(2018) will not have a solution to this, I will be thinking VERY hard about just not getting it.
Rant over.
I wonder how the output in the dock sounds compared to the adapter they're providing for free.
And tiny rants on MR will for sure result in change not happening. Even when there's a whole dozen or two making noise.
What will, is standing up and purchasing a competing phone. Though in a year or so that will be moot because others will have ditched the phone jack as well, following in Apple's steps.
High end Bluetooth headphones sound very good.
I was operating under the assumption that most folks complaining are already on a relatively modern device as it is. But you're right. At the end of the day my sim was to point out that your dollar is what tells Apple they're wrong. Not your online ranting.No need to switch even. If you have a 6S it's a great device or even the SE, both offer superior audio out of the box, as they have a better DAC inside. 6S or SE will last a few years easy. Though if the 7 sales tank, it will be a clear message to apple that it's fans are not suckers to get the exact same design three years running, and we don't want a proprietary connector for audio. For the first time I'm not about to drop £1K on a phone cause it's a step backwards. Apples loss over greed.
No need to switch even. If you have a 6S it's a great device or even the SE, both offer superior audio out of the box, as they have a better DAC inside. 6S or SE will last a few years easy. Though if the 7 sales tank, it will be a clear message to apple that it's fans are not suckers to get the exact same design three years running, and we don't want a proprietary connector for audio. For the first time I'm not about to drop £1K on a phone cause it's a step backwards. Apples loss over greed.
The only time I use headphones with my iphone is when I am traveling...and that's the most likely time I will need to charge it while using it. Using the dock doesn't work in this situation.I've never tried to listen to music while my iPhone is charging, never thought that was so common up until now of course.
Honestly, I personally prefer to keep my iPhone out of hands and out of use while it's charging.
Thought that was the best way to keep the wires from breaking and prevent overheating.
Edit - I cannot think of the restrictiveness knowing that the iPhone is connected to the charger on a wall/port somewhere and having earphones on, it'd require one to just sit around relentlessly and not even move the head too much.
But everyone certainly does have their own preferences so perhaps the future iPhones aren't for those? I mean if it ain't working for you, its best to switch to another no? If not then the alternatives are adapters or embracing the wireless sets and not just the AirPods but others too.
I find it mind blowing nobody at Apple has ever walked into the coach section or boarding area and notice most people with their phones plugged in charging on USB outlets and their headphones plugged in listening to music or the sound track on their movie. This will become more important as airlines shift away from the problematic back of seat screens and just stream entertainment to peoples devices on wifi. iP7 should ship with dual lightning and headphone connector if they wanted to go this way.
Apple's new iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus ship without a headphone jack, requiring customers to use either Bluetooth or Lightning-equipped headphones. Many customers who routinely charge their iPhones while also listening to music have been questioning whether that usage scenario will possible sans headphone jack, and as it turns out, Apple has a solution.
In an email to a customer, Apple SVP of marketing Phil Schiller says that while he prefers to use the wireless AirPods to listen to music, customers who want to listen to wired headphones while charging an iPhone 7 can use the Apple Lightning Dock, which has a built-in headphone jack.
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Priced at $49 and available in colors to match each of the iPhones, the Lightning dock has both a USB input and a 3.5mm headphone jack built in, making it perfect for customers who want to charge and listen to music at the same time. Unfortunately, it's an expensive solution compared to former method of using 3.5mm EarPods and a Lightning cable, which came free with the iPhone. Belkin also just announced a $40 Lightning Audio + Charge RockStar adapter designed to let users listen to Lightning headphones while charging, but it's both bulky and pricy.
To ease the transition away from the 3.5mm headphone jack, Apple is providing customers with both a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter and a set of EarPods with a Lightning connector. Of course, when using these accessories, charging is not possible at the same time.
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Apple's ultimate goal seems to be to transition customers to wireless headphones like its recently announced AirPods. While on stage at yesterday's event, Schiller explained that one of the reasons why Apple moved away from the headphone jack was to push wireless technology forward. The AirPods, which have been in development since the Apple Watch was conceived, feature a proprietary wireless W1 chip and up to 24 hours of battery life implemented through a charging case.
AirPods, priced at $159 and similar in design to EarPods, are entirely wireless with no cord connecting the two earpieces and feature technology like gesture recognition, voice isolation, and more. AirPods have been receiving largely favorable reviews, but $159 is a lot to pay for the ideal iPhone 7 music experience.
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Apple executives have explained that the removal of the headphone jack took a lot of "courage," but was necessary to free up valuable space and improve technology in the iPhone 7 and future iPhones.
(Thanks, Zaheen!)
Article Link: Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music
Huh? Why would you need to get another pair of Bluetooth headphones?
Use the headphones you have. You don't need to BUY the adapter because it's included FREE with the phone. It's essentially a 2" cable. I suspect you'll have no trouble accommodating this in your belt:
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