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Apple's Phil Schiller Recommends Lightning Dock for Charging an iPhone 7 While Listening to Music
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Actually sounds like exactly the same thing since by the time they removed the 3.5mm plug I was very rarely using wired listening devices on iPhone and there were solutions that can use the data/power port or wireless in every price range. AND if I absolutely need to use the port for multiple things simultaneously there are already two different solutions offered and will probably be more before I actually get my new phone. That’s the great thing about using the port, I can both send and receive multiple channel data AND have the power needs taken care of.
Again, its a non-issue for anyone willing to slightly change.
sorry, I meant for listening/talking and charging at the same time. (listening is what the dock was recommended for in Phils response to the gentlemans question about charging and listening at the same time) the included adaptor does not allow for charging and listening/talking at the same time.
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Considering it works with 3.5mm headsets that have a microphone in them I would guess that’s a big old ‘yes’.
Also, the dock Phil is suggesting does not support 3.5mm talking. Only listening.
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I'm sorry how do we know that? The Apple Store is down so I can't check it. As I just pointed out, the Lightning dock's 3.5mm port for use in charging and listening at the same time doesn't support audio input, even though you can plug in Apple's included earbuds.
Granted that's not the question Phil was asked. However, for $9 the 3.5mm adapter would have to include both a DAC and an ADC. The only other device that includes an ADC as well as a DAC is the 30-pin to Lightning adapter which sells for $29. So aside from the 30-pin connector and passing through data and power, that's a huge discrepancy.
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yes but the port on the dock was designed for audio output. I guess there is a chance that they adapter doesn’t support the microphone but that would make it pretty useless as a substitute and they wouldn’t have offered it as a headphone jack.
Don't you use USB audio in the car. My car stereo charges my phone while playing music.
Hey, the other guy was talking like his usage was the norm, I was repeating his own wording back to him.
Again, you need to use the lightning port for multiple things just thank God it is a real powered data port and can handle it.
So, do you stay up all day in Dallas on your phone, get on a 17 hour flight with no sleep, and then land in Sydney and keep on rolling?
If not, charge your phone when you sleep!
That's sort of the point. Most people aren't running their phones 38 hours straight. If you are, you're a fringe case and unfortunately they can't design a product that is all things to all people. Go buy a phone that lets you do what you want and quit complaining.
Don't assume anything with Apple at this point. There is no way to use the Lightning earbuds they give you free in the box with any other non-Lightning device at the moment. So the earbuds they gave you in the box to encourage Lightning use, can't be used with any other Apple product except recent iOS devices. And they give you an adapter to encourage using your older more compatible headphones. Where's the sense in that.
Also, the adapter is so that customers can use their old headphones, most of which do not have microphones built-into them. Unless they specifically designed it for use with their own earbuds, I don't think we can assume it supports audio input.
Market share of what, phones? 15.3%, so if you don’t like what Apple is selling there are 84.7% other options. Go in peace.
No, really. Go.
Well, when I did it, I worked a full day in St. Louis, got to the airport around 4 PM, flew to Dallas, had a short layover, and couldn't really sleep on the plane, so yes, I pretty much did land in Sydney and keep on rolling until I finally crashed in the hotel due to lack of sleep at around 8 PM.
More like 19 pages of whining about people's concerns.
I'm really hoping the SE gets updated, just not 2014 Mac mini "updated". I'd gladly buy it a my likely apple swansong purchase.
Hmmm old headphones have microphones in them, I don’t own a set of headphones that don’t support the microphone. Considering so many of the Beats headphones have microphones it would be pretty foolish of them to not support the microphones.
You can fret about it if it brings you joy, but my guess would be it supports everything the old 3.5mm port would have.
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Well, maybe it's time to "invest" in another ecosystem. Samsung's or google's, perhaps.
Makes no sense being unhappy every single day with no plan moving forward. Be bold and courageous. Make that move and don't look back.
If I were in a similar situation I'd make the change. No way would I want to embarrass myself looking weak complaining everyday with no chance of getting out of the predicament, hoping tiny rants will be heard and somehow change something. That's silly.
Phones and gadgets are just tools to help you in life. Don't like where your tool supplier is going, find another vendor.
Wait, what? The test does not indicate that I have to use my phone 38h or 29h straight, you get it, do you? The test indicates 3.5mm jack still saves considerable battery power compared to BT LE. At the end of the day, people with wired headphone may have 10% while phones with BT headphones may only have 3% remaining. In some situations that may be useful.
I so agree with this. Bluetooth headphones are much better, so I don't mind removing it for the extra space.
The problem I have is what did they do with the extra space.. they did nothing! .. would have rather had Qi wireless charging!!!!!! Anyways, Apple needed to add a killer feature if they were removing such an important (albiet outdated) port. Those executives are paid to know better, and they really don't!
So you can pay $649 for an iPhone 7, but you're offend at the suggestion that you buy other accessories? So this equates you to the starving masses of 18th century France being told by Marie Antoinette to eat cake.
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Yes, indeed. Only multimillionaires can afford a $649 smartphone plus accessories.
Yeah exactly, some people here don't like what Apple is trying to feed us. So you were saying those people in minority.
But then you acknowledge iPhone has 15.3% market share.
So guess who's on the minority exactly? Talking about 2 contradictive posts.
Imagine this exotic use case:
1. I go to the office,
2. plug my iPhone cable into the USB jack on my work computer to charge, and then
3. plug my headphones into my iPhone to listen to music while I work.
Radical, I know.
I don't get customers who feel like customers giving feedback is 'whining and complaining'. Your attitude seems like 'shut up and love whatever they give us.' "Somehow I doubt that attitude carries over to other products you buy....