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Apple's Phil Schiller Talks About Upcoming Photoshop for iPad App at Adobe MAX
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Imagine Apple working on creating a better experience for professionals on platforms professionals actually use... like desktops?
Seriously... iPads?
Seriously... iPads?
This is their #1 goal in their strategy for this decade: to phase out MacOS in favor of iOS. When they get most photo+media apps running in the iPad, they’ll reach the goal. And it’s their #1 goal because Apple bases its current business in services, and iOS is great for getting money from services (the user has less control/freedom), while MacOS is not as profitable for such task (the user has more control/freedom, so more chances for avoiding services).
Adobe might be too late on this. Myself and everyone else I know has moved onto Affinity Photo.
Too little, too late. I'm 99% sure it'll be tied to their stupid subscription program as well.
I've moved on to Affinity Photo / Designer. I still use Photoshop for work occasionally, but I've stopped using it for everything else.
I've moved on to Affinity Photo / Designer. I still use Photoshop for work occasionally, but I've stopped using it for everything else.
I mentioned Affinity Photo which is a single purchase, not a subscription which I do not like. Adobe does subscriptions. I buy apps I use, I do not rent them.Yeah, no sale if so for me!Subscription based, no doubt...
[doublepost=1539636010][/doublepost]In one sentence it says Photoshop coming to iPad and in another it states iPad Pro.
Which is it? Just for the Pro models or for all newer iPads?
I agree, I’m the same way. But knowing the business practices already put forth by Adobe through the years one shouldn’t be shocked no?
If a customer already is paying for a photoshop subscription is this included ? I would assume it is. But to pay a second subscription price to use the full mobile version is a bit tough to swallow.
Can’t work out if you work for apple or adobe ?
Sorry but I heard this about Apple TV and gaming , many touting it the ps/Xbox killer. iPad Pro still has too many limitations vrs a laptop , and yes I use adobe cloud and am very much into my photography, iPad Pro is a great tool on the road, but when home, I’d never use it over my iMac Pro for photography workflow .
Though each to their own.
Just get it over with now so I can jump ship instead of dragging it out.
This is so sad because OS X is Apple's best product and they've puked all over it.
I believe PS will work great, but how about the file structure? How about some easy access
to those files? An SD card with simple, old-fashioned "copy" working?
Am I gonna be forced to use iTunes to transfer my PSDs? Seriously?
I hope they are not gonna use iCloud for those 3GB files? Auto-save
First they dumb down the iOS and now they are trying to make it look "professional".
to those files? An SD card with simple, old-fashioned "copy" working?
Am I gonna be forced to use iTunes to transfer my PSDs? Seriously?
I hope they are not gonna use iCloud for those 3GB files? Auto-save
First they dumb down the iOS and now they are trying to make it look "professional".
This is an interesting development for sure. Full featured apps on iPad/iOS rather than cut down versions.
The thing that worries me with this trend is whether Pro audio apps will be able to run on iPad in this way. - There are a load more things to consider, such as Audio I/O and supporting a bunch of external hardware audio interfaces etc. I can't see how the iPad can replace the desktop MacOS for every professional app.
I welcome Photoshop on iOS, I'm just not convinced that this can be replicated for every app without mouse/keyboard and external hardware support.
I believe PS will work great, but how about the file structure? How about some easy access
to those files? An SD card with simple, old-fashioned "copy" working?
Am I gonna be forced to use iTunes to transfer my PSDs? Seriously?
I hope they are not gonna use iCloud for those 3GB files? Auto-save
First they dumb down the iOS and now they are trying to make it look "professional".
I laughed at 'an SD card' because you just know Apple has no interest in satisfying consumers with actual options like expandable storage.
I recently had a small exhibition of photos I had collaged and manipulated on my iPad Mini sort of as a proof of concept. It worked but was extremely difficult without an actual file system and lack of an easy way to transfer the photos around.
Many many duplicates of photos were made and I had to subscribe to an iCloud account to keep them all around, which has proven to be a hassle.
On this current series I’m working on, there are a few files over the gig mark with several layers. I’m not sure how an iPad can replace a computer if there is no file system and everything is saved “in the cloud”.
Many many duplicates of photos were made and I had to subscribe to an iCloud account to keep them all around, which has proven to be a hassle.
On this current series I’m working on, there are a few files over the gig mark with several layers. I’m not sure how an iPad can replace a computer if there is no file system and everything is saved “in the cloud”.
I wasn’t shocked, but it’s all good. No worries. You make some good points especially on a potential second subscription price which would be massive amounts of ugh on top of their existing subscription model.
And Chrome is nothing more than a web browser.
Haha! Can’t argue with that. I only mentioned their own tablet as a reference for when the statement was said. Nonetheless, their observation is accurate. Whether Apple succeeds (or bothers) to evolve the iPad and iOS as a productivity tool depends on two things: that the platform is an adequate substitute for MacOS and Macs; and whether it generates more income than the Mac.
The current Apple business model is all about services. iOS is designed precisely for getting money from services. So, you can be sure they’ll do everything they can for making all MacOS users migrate to iOS. And this implies porting all Mac apps to iOS. They are at that point right now. Adobe is the first, but it’s of key importance for pushing iOS.
Cars and Trucks...once upon a time, small cars were horribly underpowered and nowhere near as capable as they are now...eventually, the cars caught up and there came a thing called an SUV based on the truck and then the CUV, which is based on the car..and we are now at the point where the cars are beginning to be phased out or are morphing into CUVs. Trucks are now becoming more expensive and more luxurious and while lots of people still buy them for specific tasks or as a status symbol, few of us truly need them, because most CUVs can do the job we need them to do and do them very well. iPads are becoming those CUVs that most of us will end up buying and using. Some of will still need a truck, some of us will want one because we need one every so often, some will buy them and it will end up sitting in the driveway...this is the way of things, it’s inevitable.
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Apple and adobe in bed - Apple is becoming a friendly Microsoft , smile and wave boys .... smile and wave
you're about 12-18yrs too late to that bandwagon chant. Where are you been living on Mars?
I foresee a desktop iPad in the near future. Some apps require large surfaces. Audio may be one of those. A 27” tabletop iPad might be the solution for audio pros. I have a 12.9” iPad Pro which suffices for photography — it’s effectively like working directly on an 8 x 10 print. For video (Final Cut Pro X of iOS), it may be that the next generation iPad Pro with USB-C external display support might do the trick with video on the screen and the timeline on the iPad but I think that a very large desktop iPad might be needed to convert professional video editors. That USB-C will solve the I/O problem that you mention. You’ll be able to plug any audio devices into an iPad Pro that you plug into your Mac today.
I'm fairly sure Adobe will bundle it in under any of the subscription plans which include photoshop, I don't expect them to charge extra for it. This is the 'benefit' of Adobe's subscription model, they rake in more money to spend creating products like this. I however am another person who doesn't want to be locked into paying Adobe for the rest of my life to access the photos I developed in Lightroom or touched up with PS nor pay them more for cloud storage to keep them all online and editable, so even though they make the best products, unless they start selling them again as standalone with reasonable support for a version and a choice to upgrade, I'm going to keep using something else.
There are easily two to three times the number of iPads in circulation compared to Macs. In terms of sheer numbers, the iPad is too large a platform to ignore.
Huh? A monitor-sized iPad for video editing? I’m not a videographer, but what would be the advantages? The iPad would have to be vertical, which Apple dismissed as poor ergonomics when it criticized touchscreen monitors.