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Right technology should just standstill. Apple doesn't wait around for others to adopt newer I/O they rip the band-aid off and move on. They did it with the floppy drive, serial port, optical drive, and now the old USB-A connector. Technology is going to move forward whether you want it to or not.
Correct me if I am wrong but the floppy and serial port where around with s100 computers like the imsai and altair. So what did Apple do that was so special with them?
 
The A in Apple stands for Arrogance.
Don't buy this overpriced overhyped product.
Tell Tim what we think of the pricing and don't buy even one
 
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Correct me if I am wrong but the floppy and serial port where around with s100 computers like the imsai and altair. So what did Apple do that was so special with them?

They removed them to general tears of people afraid of change and then were followed by the rest of the industry.
 
If I remember Apple got in a lot of trouble when they tried to make gazillions on each Mac instead of be great computers with a reasonable premium. There is no jobs to save them if they go irrelevant now. The halo of the iPhone is the time to go for growth in the base not nickel and dime the faithful.
 
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I haven't seen all the specs on these machines just yet but the price part jumped out to me.

My first MacBook Pro I bought was a 15" 2.4ghz w/ 512mb vram that was $2499. That was my first intel Mac and I used that until an SSD and a HD in place of the SuperDrive could not longer provide me value. I loved that Mac! Oh, and a MATTE screen! Haha
 
It's funny how any factual anti-Apple statement around here gets replied to with "Well then buy the competition" a polite way of basically saying, "shut up and get lost" I suppose.

I'm happy with my MacBook Pro I bought last year, ya know the one with all the useful ports and such. When it finally gives up I'll make a decision about my next computer (probably 2018-2019).
I wouldn't have suggested that you buy the competition, except that you threw the competition out there as an option:

Yeah but that's not how it is now. You can get an XPS 15" for $1700 with similar specs and performance. Apple needs a Time Machine to get to the current year if your point is the old stuff cost a shed load.

It's funny how you suggested that the competition was a better deal and when I suggested you might be right, I'm the bad guy.
 
Does anyone else think that space grey was an odd secondary color choice (considering they nixed it in the iPhone and Beats Solo wireless lineup)? I personally like space grey but expected a jet black MacBook at this point.
 
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Still can't name any innovation in that screen? :eek:
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Lmbo :D


Apart from the price, I haven't really seen any complaints about the Surface Studio (and that's really about usage... if you compare it to a 27HD Cintiq and the same computer, it's damn cheap).

In fact the main complaints here yesterday were wistful.... wishing that was the new iMac announced today.
 
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Apart from the price, I haven't really seen any complaints about the Surface Studio (and that's really about usage... if you compare it to a 27HD Cintiq and the same computer, it's damn cheap).

In fact the main complaints here yesterday were wistful.... wishing that was the new iMac announced today.

What does any of that have to do with people claiming that it's innovative? It's an all in one with a hinge that will be released with Skylake in 2017. Nothing innovative about it whatsoever.
 
Hmmmm. Yes definitely design for the price and screw usability experience.

Form above functionality and hiked prices.

I'm looking for a laptop that has value for money and great performance. These machines lack value for money.

I'm not interested sitting in Starbucks displaying eye candy!
What do you think you are doing at Starbucks having a 15 cent coffee for $ 8? You are at a daytime bar, sho



Following the launch of the redesigned MacBook Pro, CNET has published an interview with Apple executives Phil Schiller, Jony Ive, and Craig Federighi, highlighting some of the design decisions that went into the new machine.

The contextual OLED Touch Bar on the new MacBook Pro, which is its key feature, has been in development under the direction of Jony Ive for at least two years, and according to Ive, it "marks a beginning" of a "very interesting direction" for future products.

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Apple's new MacBook took so long to develop because the company didn't want to "just create a speed bump," aiming instead for something that's a "big, big step forward." Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller says the MacBook Pro will allow Apple to "create many things to come," some of which "we can't envision yet." He also said Apple isn't driven by a calendar, but is instead aiming to create "new innovations" in the Mac line.

Many customers are unhappy with the high price of the new MacBook Pro models, something Schiller addressed in the interview. An entry-level 13-inch MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar costs $1,799, a full $500 more than previous-generation models, and 15-inch models start at $2,399. Schiller says Apple cares about price, but has to design for experience rather than cost.The MacBook Pro's Touch Bar doesn't signal a future move into touchscreen Macs, something the Apple executives made clear. A Mac with a touchscreen isn't "particularly useful," Ive said, while Schiller said Apple investigated the possibility of converging iOS and Mac devices but decided against it.Both Federighi and Schiller believe the laptop is a form factor that's going to be around for a long time. "As far as our eyes can see, there will still be a place for this basic laptop architecture," Schiller said, pointing out that it's been useful for the past 25 years.

Apple's 13-inch MacBook Pro model with no Touch Bar is available for purchase starting today and will deliver in just a few days. The new 13 and 15-inch models that do include Touch Bars are available for order, but won't ship until mid-to-late November.

Along with a Touch Bar, Apple's new MacBook Pros feature upgraded processors, new graphics capabilities, improved displays, faster SSDs, Thunderbolt 3 support, and 10 hour battery life.

CNET's full interview, which also focuses on the history of the Mac notebook lineup, is well worth checking out.

Article Link: Apple's Phil Schiller: 'We Don't Design for Price, We Design for the Experience'
As a camera buff, I saw little screens entering the camera world over the last 10 years. From DSLR displays with 20 characters to today's retina camera backs and extra touch bars and squares and so on ... to the point that today such things are expected and cameras cannopt get away with charging for the feature. When I saw the touch bar of the MBP I was so excited, but now I realize that it is simply a borrow from the camera world, and other machines that have touch bars, as seen in cars, ATMs, calculators, etc. It was time yes for hot keys to have electronics, the whole keyboard should be active, so that a laptop can change languages instantly.

The price is higher than before, and that was a decision that will matter. It brings in the danger of the company being seen as elitist. As niche all the way. I already spoke with some mid business computer guys who think this one will be for the VPs, but will wait years for the common executive.

Prices drops will happen in time, and quickly for Apple's sake. In the world of cameras, the price of a camera is typically half at 12 months. Macs keep their value better, amazingly enough.

I also wonder how quickly will developers will embrace the bar for true productivity. Seems the applications presented are high end only.

Oh well lets not feel bad for Apple. They are the envy of the world, good for them.
 
Apart from the price, I haven't really seen any complaints about the Surface Studio (and that's really about usage... if you compare it to a 27HD Cintiq and the same computer, it's damn cheap).
It is well underpowered for that price. It's very neat, but it is definitely aimed at an extremely niche market, illustrators in particular.
 
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Does anyone else think that space grey was an odd secondary color choice (considering they nixed it in the iPhone and Beats Solo wireless lineup)? I personally like space grey but expected a jet black MacBook at this point.
I also thought so. Not jet black but just black would be a better option.
 
It is well underpowered for that price. It's very neat, but it is definitely aimed at an extremely niche market, illustrators in particular.
It's the same market of professionals that'll spend 10 grand on a Mac Pro.
 
The original Mac (with 128K of RAM) cost over $5500 in today's dollars. The original PowerBook was over $4000 in today's dollars. That's the base configuration.

That's a poor comparison.

The original Mac was utterly unique in 1984 and years if not a decade ahead of the entire industry. I was around and it was as if someone had teleported a piece of technology from the future into the present.

The PowerBook 100 (designed with a lot of help from Sony by the way) was a landmark portable design that changed the laptop industry forever.

The new MacBook Pro doesn't compare even remotely to either of these machines.
 
It is well underpowered for that price. It's very neat, but it is definitely aimed at an extremely niche market, illustrators in particular.



Oh yes, it's certainly niche, and I'd like more grunt. If it gets a spec bump next, it's definitely in my sights to replace my Cintiq set-up.
 
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