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Telling customers the update was delayed while you worked on this one big update is telling your competitors you are an old sclerotic company ready to get your butt kicked.

If you cannot develop new features and update your existing product line than don't be surprised when you start losing in the market.
 
Apple Pay is very meh if you live in The Netherlands (not sure how its in the US or anywhere), but here, we pay with something that's called 'iDeal'. When checking out at a online store, it redirects you to your bank website, you log in, confirm the purchase and, via SMS, you'll receive a code to fill into the website to confirm the purchase again -> done. It's super fast and easy, no need for Apple Pay.
I lost track. How many steps is that?

At least it doesn't make you scan in a QR code, but you're not selling that iDeal system very well to anyone who's used ApplePay.
 
is it that bad EXPLAIN please
The lack of key travel makes it feel like I'm typing on a bare table. I know it's hyperbole but it's how much I hate it. Like I've said in other threads, I tried the rMB for a whole month (I kept it after the return period as I was trying to learn to live with it) and then gave it to my wife for a Facebook machine.
 
Someone here (like Jony Ive) needs to get real on what a "big big step forward" actually is.
He is obsessed with Thin. So is the rest of the staff... Its quite funny to watch... Ivy as a designer has totally lost touch of relationships between height/width/depth... Once something reaches a certain height you can only make it 'So Thin' before it starts to look weird. Look at the the iPhone7 - while it is thin it also looks a bit goofy due to its height... He might work and design for Apple but Fibonacci would probably tell him to either make the phone less tall and keep its thin or make it less thin to keep it from looking goofy !

Instead of making the new 2016 MacBook Pro more powerful they made it.... Drumwhirl..... You guessed it.... THINNER --- and thus accommodate identical hardware... So you get a thinner Laptop that weighs less and costs more... Where you wanted a Laptop more powerful...

The Current Retina MacBook Pro is THIN as H***** --- I dont need it to be thinner but more powerful...
 
The market will decide. It will be interesting to see what sales of the new MacBooks Pros have been 1 year from now. Personally, I like the new machine, the Thunderbolt 3/USB C port layout and especially the Touchbar. If the apps integrate as they should i can definitely see an improvement in my workflows. Kind of reminds me of the first time I had a mouse (yeah, I'm that old). Thought that I would never use it but didn't want to be "that guy" that never tries new tech. Needless to say I was a convert. I'm thinking that I'll be a convert to the Touchbar as well.

I believe that this will be a big success for Apple but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Apple's latest and greatest costs a LOT of money but it's no different with their phones and tablets. If you want an Apple product, such as a MacBook Pro and don't want to pay top dollar, buy a refurb for a great discount. You don't need that space tray touch bar p3 screen. If you want it, then pay. The prices are expensive, but they have plenty of low cost options for people while still doing what they can to provide what they think is the best user experience.
 
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Steve Jobs would have said that Apple just told it's fans to "pound sand."

They really think that iOS will carry them forever. That they're too fancy now for the computer geeks that got them through the first 30 years.

Notwithstanding "Peak Smartphone", Android's market dominance, and the fact that young people now avoid iPhones like the plague.

Apple would do well to remember its' roots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club
 
Two years to develop the touch bar huh?

The touch screen is already invented, much more capable, and would have taken you a few weeks to develop.

I know. I don't get it. I do see some usefulness in the touch bar - in creating custom keys for specific pieces of software, and especially with incorporating Touch ID for user authentication and online purchasing, but I think a touchscreen would have gone much further. iPhones and iPads are very useful because you can touch the screen rather than be tethered to an old keyboard. Apple is way behind their competitors in this regard, they will never gain market share developing gimmicks rather than true innovation like a high quality touch screen. Almost every Surface commercial now is about the ability to touch and draw on the screen and how you can't (and won't now) do that on a Mac.

Apple really shot themselves in the foot with this one. Can't justify the premium pricing based on shedding some weight and putting in a touch bar. Component prices are negligible, ram and processor speeds continue to increase as prices stay the same or decrease.
 
Ive, the head designer of the product, considers full touch screens not particularly useful,

Nobody tell him about the iPad.

Apple has made no secret about its preference for the iPad as the platform for future. “This is the way we think that personal computing is going,” said Phil Schiller, senior VP of worldwide marketing

Phil!

Precisely. "Why would you buy a PC anymore?" Sound familiar? You can't make these sorts of grandiose and, in my opinion, misguided statements and then turn around a year later and claim that you can't have the best computing experience by making MacOS like iOS. Charitably, these seemingly contradictory declarations make it appear as if you lack a coherent direction. At worst, they come off as marketing, double-speak bulls@#$.
 
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