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I've was hoping to replace my 11" MacBook Air with the new MacBook Pro. I think the Touch panel is useful, and I'd rather have 4 TB3/USB 3.1 ports than a handful of archaic legacy ports.

That said, pricing is just unrealistic. And this is coming from someone that paid $1700 for a maxed out Air and years before that nearly $3000 for a 15" PowerBook G4.

I'd expect a mild price jump from the previous model but $500? And then charge $200 more for the 16gb it should have come with in the first place?
 
Two years to develop the touch bar huh?

The touch screen is already invented, much more capable, and would have taken you a few weeks to develop.

I get so frustrated seeing this. I'm not defending Apple's price increase here as I think it's completely ridiculous as everyone else, but Mac OS isn't designed for touch. Trying to close and minimise windows, for example, would be a pain in the ass because it's too small for your fingers to be precise enough and Apple knows this. They would have to completely redesign the whole OS to be touch friendly which would just be... oh wait, an iPad.

The idea of having a touch screen mac sounds great, but it would just be a pain to use in reality. Not to mention the arm ache.
 
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Steve Jobs would have said that Apple just told it's fans to "pound sand."

They really think that iOS will carry them forever. That they're too fancy now for the computer geeks that got them through the first 30 years.

Notwithstanding "Peak Smartphone", Android's market dominance, and the fact that young people now avoid iPhones like the plague.

Apple would do well to remember its' roots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrew_Computer_Club

That youngster avoid the iPhones is not something I can stand witness too... From what I am seeing youngsters fiend for those phones. They just can't afford them. But the prestige amongst them owning one, is very much there
 
Ferrari designs for the experience too.
Rolls Royce, Porche... etc. Clearly Apple is not marketing its latest laptop to the Toyota Yaris or Honda Fit crowd.


Agree take the old plastic MacBooks. There was a computer for the people at the right price. OSX is still a good safe OS but.. The new uber thin MacBook is more of a fashion accessory you'd buy at gucci or one of those highstreet handbag/ manbag stores ;) Just too expensive for what you get. Keep it real people.
 
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85% of users use a mac mini like me for itunes, internet and word processing + email...these changes are meaningless to many people and overpriced at best.

I agree with the bolded.

Just saying: while the Mini usage you mention may be the case these days for lots of folks, many people do/did used it as a capable desktop for design, music, video etc. I am sorry I wasn't one of those people who held onto the Minis I had.

I've officially put Phil on mute, he's a perfect example of everything wrong with Apple now.
 
I really feel like they've lost the plot. Sad. I love MacOS and do not want to move to another system, but I will be left with little choice at this rate.
Why? Because you're broke? Your business can't fund the purchase of quality equipment?

People that use Macs don't stop and move on to PCs instead. People that troll internet forums love to say that though.
 
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If you were going for experience Phil you wouldn't have made the keyboard feel like I'm typing on this

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Wait, does it have swallow key travel like the retina MacBook 12?

I have the 2016 version. The keyboard is the only thing I dislike, but it would be quite unacceptable on a MacBook Pro.
 
I have been waiting to update a Mid-2009 MBP for over a year waiting on a design refresh, and hit the breaks as soon as the price was revealed. Not exactly sure what I'm going to do at this point, but so far it looks like I'm doing nothing, and will wait until this one completely dies and I'm forced to upgrade (potentially to a non-apple computer for the first time since 2003). It's not that I can't afford the extra cost, but it's more that it just isn't worth what they're asking people to pay for it, and I don't want to contribute to signaling to Apple that it is.
 
I agree with the bolded.

Just saying: while the Mini usage you mention may be the case these days for lots of folks, many people do/did used it as a capable desktop for design, music, video etc. I am sorry I wasn't one of those people who held onto the Minis I had.

I've officially put Phil on mute, he's a perfect example of everything wrong with Apple now.

Yes, you can feel that he has lost the touch. There is no fire in his voice. Apple is good a throwing people away who has vision... They did it with Jobs and got him back... They did it with Forestall just wait and see, some day if he hasn't turned them down already, he will be offered a way back in, fire the relics and move on... Like Jobs did.
 
I'm going to guess that everything is glued and soldered in these new machines. That means they are not easily repaired. So if a hard drive fails, you have to replace the entire logic board. And when you trip over the cord because MagSafe is gone, repair might be cost prohibitive. Sounds to me like Tim & Co expects you to buy a new Mac pretty often. It's planned obsolescence on steroids.
 
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