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I agree. I want something that combines the ipad pro, apple pencil, and macbook pro into one machine.

I really feel like they've lost the plot. Sad. I love MacOS and do not want to move to another system, but I will be left with little choice at this rate.
 
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If this were true and they honestly felt like touch control was the innovative route they wanted to go, we would've seen them take the "too hell with the pricing" Apple approach of yore and seen a full-blown touch panel solution or something a bit more hands-on for creatives and professionals than a narrow touch bar to take the place of physical keys.
 
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16GB RAM ??? and Apple advertises it as a powerful workstation (w/ 2x5k monitors and raids). Actually it is a powerful paging to disk machine. OS knocks down 4GB, 12GB are left, Power up a VM or 2 and a browser with several pages open and you've got a slow machine that pages to disk (time to do some stretching while we wait). Interesting design decision to keep the memory at 16GB and invest in other bells and whistles. When Apple experience the 'OOPS' moment and then the 'AHA' moment, we might see more useful RAM figures like 32GB or more.
 
I was hoping for a price drop as has been the case for a few years now but they literally hiked the price for no reason. And using DDR3 RAM which is mind boggling to me.

I understand what he's saying. But, if the price is too high, only a few will buy. I for one won't be picking it up, even though I had planned to do so. I simply cannot justify the price.
 
Hey Phil, remember "It just works."

Funny, how a Mac Mini supplied quite the "experience" without the upper crusty price point.
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85% of users use a mac mini like me for itunes, internet and word processing + email...these changes are meaningless to many people and overpriced at best.
 
...wish they had the non-touch bar option in the 15"

Myself and most I know who still use Mac laptops, use their MBPs on a desk in a vertical stand with the lid closed 90% of the time (and for me with a fan pointed at it), so for me and these other pros, that fancy trackpad and touchbar would only see the light of day every blue moon.

Unfortunately, Apple kept the max system Ram capped at 16GB, the same it has been since early 2011 MBP models.

Another huge knock against the new MBP, not even enough graphics memory to process 4K video in Resolve with one neatvideo node, and no CUDA support (OpenCL is vastly inferior in my benchmark tests, completely comical in comparison).

What a fail.

If it had 32GB, I might be able to recommend it, for use with external TB3 PCI-e enclosures for CUDA compute.
But 16GB? what is this, 2012?

If they'd sell the MBP w/out a display added a 32GB RAM option took out the built in keyboard, trackpad, and stupid touch bar, then I might be tempted to get one as a "computer" to use with traditional I/O devices (keyboards, mice, monitors) - Oh wait, that'd be a bastard Mac Pro w/ no CPU power, or an awesome mac mini.
 
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I hope this time the market will answer them the taste of customers, let us wait and see how long they keep this design like this...

Not really... actually the touch bar is a great idea... but it is missing the damn haptic feedback (which they will add in the next iteration, of course). This idea of the touch bar is not new but early adopters will be paying the price unfortunately.

In any case, I am glad I got a MBPr 13" one month ago. If I had waited for this I would be now extremely pissed off looking on the internet for the old one in fact. The fact that you need an adapter of the USB-C for everything and the lack of MagSafe is just a big f*** up. Why they killed the MagSafe... why? It is one of the greatest ideas ever...
Anyhow, I'll continue enjoying the MBPr :)
 
Not to mention that Lenovo has been rocking a 'touch bar' for a number of years - yes, it really shows 2 years worth of design effort

I'd like to know what the 'actual' cost is for the touch bar. o_O As one person said here it could be they are trying to increase the price to offset the decline in iPhone sales and other hardware. Though raising the price by that much, will it do more damage to sales than benefit it in the long run?
 
To those in the UK they also sneakily bumped up the pricing on the Mac Pro and iMac.

Mac Pros have increased in price by £500 and the iMacs have gone up by £300. Absolutely disgraceful, especially since since the Mac Pro has 3 year old technology and if Id bought it yesterday it would have cost £500 less.
 
Is requiring an adapter for every aspect of every one of your products "designing for the experience?" It's a crying shame you can't fully immerse in the mac ecosystem without needing a diaper bag full of dongles to interact with real world. You even need adapters to allow other mac products to talk to each other. Crying shame.
 
Sorry, but MBP is overpriced. There is nothing groundbreaking and yet the price hike is absurd. The Touch Bar is a gimmick that will not help with productivity at all. It's just flashy for the sake of being flashy.

I with you, I was planning on purchasing a new MBP but after seeing the price I'll
Be looking at other alternatives. Hate to due it but the prices seem to be going up on all the products they offer and I'm not seeing a reason to pay the premium price. Yes I love the OS and iOS intigrayltion but they are pricing many out of the brand.
Hate to say it but we are now looking at other brands to fill the needs of my son for school.
Thanks Apple for making this decision much easier.
 
I lost track. How many steps is that?

At least it doesn't make you scan in a QR code, but you're not selling that iDeal system very well to anyone who's used ApplePay.

Haha, yeah, when I reread it, it does sound like a lot. But I'm crap at explaining. :p

I'll try again: When checking out, you'll be redirected to your banks' website, logging in is quick since it remembers your password etc. and you only have to press confirm. In 5 seconds, you'll get a text message with a 6 digit code, which you need to fill in on your banks' website (this new screen is directly loaded after you've pressed the first confirm and while waited for the text).

It may not sound like it, but it's a great and safe system since you always need your phone to confirm a purchase. So if someone knows your login and password, they can't do anything unless they also have your phone. Yeah, Apple Pay might be a few seconds faster. But I'd gladly get a 15" without it and maybe used that money for more storage.
 
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