Apple's Popularity With Gen Z Poses Challenges for Android
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pierce1979
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Good, but Apple shouldn’t become complacent, because sometimes it feels like it... Cook is good leader but he doesn’t push the boundaries like Jobs had.
There is only one major reason for this. Young people want their posts (especially videos) to look good on social media applications such as Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok. Whether Samsung or other big brands put as good cameras on their phones as they want, the ONLY request of young people is that the videos they will post on social media are not pixelated and sluggish. When Android manufacturers fully and clearly ensure that their hardware is used by application developers as native, only then they can be preferred by young people.
SoldOnApple
macrumors 65816
Whoever specifically is responsible for 9/10 teenagers and the majority of young in the US using and preferring an iPhone should be the next Apple CEO.
PowerButton
macrumors 6502
Peer pressure
Brien
macrumors 68040
I’ve been reading “Apple is too expensive” rants since the 90s. Nothing new.
That’s strange. In Canada, in universities, flagship iPhones with 3 camera lens are ubiquitous, especially among pretty girls.
Jessica Lares
macrumors G3
I don't think there is a specific person. It's that the first device most of this generation had was the iPod Touch and they graduated to the iPhones and aren't very interested in using it beyond communication, playing games, and watching video.
This was referred to as “macquisition” in the iPod era circa 2001-2003 and was a theory of getting an individual into the ecosystem with a small purchase, which lead to further larger purchases.
- I buy an iPod. I get used to iTunes.
- I want an Apple laptop to go with my iPod. I buy an iBook. I’m already used to iTunes, so there’s not much to learn.
- I finish school / college and need a more powerful computer so buy a PowerBook / iMac / PowerMac.
NXZ111
macrumors newbie
I disagree with your female celebrities impact on Gen Z. It’s not because the females we're using iPhones, it’s because social media apps (Instagram, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Twitter, Telegram, TikTok..etc) are well optimized on iOS. I saw many Android phone manufacturers starting to optimize social media apps, including Samsung. When Samsung fully optimize social media apps on their Galaxy phones, iPhones usage percentage will start to go down.
Bodhitree
macrumors 68020
That’s true in the Netherlands as well. My mother, father and two of my friends use iPhones and even we use WhatsApp over iMessage, to the extent that I hardly know what special features beyond SMS there are in iMessage. I do use iMessage occasionally to communicate with people who have iPads only, sending them links and video’s. You literally cannot do without WhatsApp, unless you’re my strange cousin who refuses to use anything except Signal.
But you do still see the iPhone as a aspirational device, on public transport you see more iPhones now than you used to five years ago. It literally was 90% Android here a while ago and now the balance seems to be shifting a bit more towards iPhones. I think the privacy and updates really moved people to take iPhones more seriously.
I still think iPhones are decent value for money if you hold onto them long enough, they are far more durable devices than the midrange plastic Android phones.
I’m glad I didn’t have this social pressure when I was at school in the 90s. Having a mobile phone was quite an unusual thing around me till the late 90s early 2000s and even then no one cared if you didn’t have one! The only feature I remember being slightly envious of was polyphonic ringtones.
This is the power of the Apple ecosystem. Amazing numbers!
dumastudetto
macrumors 603
People have realised Apple marketing is true: if you don't have an iPhone, you don't have an iPhone.
Samsung and Google privacy-invading knockoffs are no substitute for the real thing.
Samsung and Google privacy-invading knockoffs are no substitute for the real thing.
NagasakiGG
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Unfortunately Android isn't an option on Devices over 250€. Why should I pay the same price of an iPhone although having maybe 20% of the support?
Neither with Samsung, Sony, LG or Huawei I can go to a store and get a same-day-replacement in case of any faulty things with my device. Also the 4-5y functionality upgrade. (No, bugfixes and security patches aren't an "update" in my opinion).
Neither with Samsung, Sony, LG or Huawei I can go to a store and get a same-day-replacement in case of any faulty things with my device. Also the 4-5y functionality upgrade. (No, bugfixes and security patches aren't an "update" in my opinion).
Trusteft
macrumors 6502a
Gen X here.
If I had money, I would consider moving to iphones for one reason alone. I am sick, sick and tired of buying an android phone, to only have support for one or two versions of the OS. I find it despicable. Depending on when you bought any particular model (not just released, but perhaps you waited few months or even a year), you might get less than a year of OS upgrades, perhaps even just up to the PREVIOUS official version.
Seriously, I am so sick of this that if I ever have money again I am switching to iphones.
If I had money, I would consider moving to iphones for one reason alone. I am sick, sick and tired of buying an android phone, to only have support for one or two versions of the OS. I find it despicable. Depending on when you bought any particular model (not just released, but perhaps you waited few months or even a year), you might get less than a year of OS upgrades, perhaps even just up to the PREVIOUS official version.
Seriously, I am so sick of this that if I ever have money again I am switching to iphones.
This is great news. iPhone is Waitrose and Android is Aldi after all
People say that younger people are tech savvy, but do people really want a device where you have to have the skills of an IT professional to figure out how to backup your phone to the cloud. No, and this is exactly why Android is faltering and Apple is prevailing
People say that younger people are tech savvy, but do people really want a device where you have to have the skills of an IT professional to figure out how to backup your phone to the cloud. No, and this is exactly why Android is faltering and Apple is prevailing
Younger people are simply accustomed to being around tech at an early age. And younger minds tend to learn quickly. But if earlier generations had had this stuff when they were young they/we would have been no different.
But using this stuff and understanding it are two different things. Lots of people can drive, but few have much idea of how things work under the hood. Same with this technology. Many equate familiarity with tech as being somehow “smarter.” than their parents and grandparents. Uh, no, they’re not.
But using this stuff and understanding it are two different things. Lots of people can drive, but few have much idea of how things work under the hood. Same with this technology. Many equate familiarity with tech as being somehow “smarter.” than their parents and grandparents. Uh, no, they’re not.
gumblecosby
macrumors 6502
I thought this newer generation were more clue-ed in at an earlier age. Guess not...
To clarify, in my generation we rejected the overlords in the 20's. Was hoping for it to start earlier with them
To clarify, in my generation we rejected the overlords in the 20's. Was hoping for it to start earlier with them
VaruLV
macrumors 6502a
I wanted smallest smartphone available, in came rumors about imminent iPhone 12 Mini launch, so I waited a bit and got that one. Other factorss such as supposedly tighter privacy policies and lengthy full OS version updates and patches were just nice bonuses to have in the process.
Integration with other Apple devices, in my case with iPad has been good and I like them synced through iCloud, however I dont care that much for iOS or its apps, unlike iPadOS and its apps, as well as Android manufacturers getting there slowly with their phone-tablet-computer integration solutions getting better by year.
What I do care about is vast amount of stability issues and buggs with iOS and iPadOS in its 16th iteration, just horrible.
My next phone isnt likely going to be an iPhone due to their very slow reaction time to innovation and addition of "new" features that Android users have had for years and sometimes even a decade and also due to Apple enourmous appetite when it comes to pricing their devices out of reasonable levels for so many of its current or potential customers.
Im looking towards either Samsung Galaxy or Google Pixel foldables and/or one of the premium Adroid smartwatches with cellular functions and calling unlike Apple where you have to be either on the same wifi network to call through your phone(iPads) or have it linked to your Apple accounts and phone(Apple watch).
Integration with other Apple devices, in my case with iPad has been good and I like them synced through iCloud, however I dont care that much for iOS or its apps, unlike iPadOS and its apps, as well as Android manufacturers getting there slowly with their phone-tablet-computer integration solutions getting better by year.
What I do care about is vast amount of stability issues and buggs with iOS and iPadOS in its 16th iteration, just horrible.
My next phone isnt likely going to be an iPhone due to their very slow reaction time to innovation and addition of "new" features that Android users have had for years and sometimes even a decade and also due to Apple enourmous appetite when it comes to pricing their devices out of reasonable levels for so many of its current or potential customers.
Im looking towards either Samsung Galaxy or Google Pixel foldables and/or one of the premium Adroid smartwatches with cellular functions and calling unlike Apple where you have to be either on the same wifi network to call through your phone(iPads) or have it linked to your Apple accounts and phone(Apple watch).
Reason077
macrumors 601
In my case, around about 2001 when the Titanium PowerBook G4 was released.
spinedoc77
macrumors G4
That's right, an Android user that didn't use the iMessage app would just get plain SMS, same as they do today. I still don't think it's particularly confusing for them to understand they need the iMessage app to fully communicate with iPhones. I think you are short selling the consumer. Those who don't care about pictures/videos or whatever else the app might bring can just stay with their vanilla messaging apps. Consumers are apparently smart enough to understand they need Facebook Messenger to chat with Facebook users as one example.
The only way around the incompatibility would be to adhere to RCS, and true RCS from the carriers is dead. Apple is never going to sign onto Google's proprietary RCS so today we are at an impasse. I get what you are saying, the best solution would be for a seamless text messaging experience across ANY messaging app, but that just ain't going to happen.