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Apple's Popularity With Gen Z Poses Challenges for Android
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I'm in the UK and I use iMessage all the time over other messaging platforms.
I'm surprised loads of people use WhatsApp I remember when it first launched and it was a waste of space.
there has to be a distinction to know what features are available and whatever color they would've went with it would've been ugly by association.
Back in the late 1960’s, when I was just starting high school, we lived for a couple of years in a small town (Pop 600) in south east Kansas. The town had a local phone company and was still using phones with a crank on the side. You’d spin the crank three or four times then pick up the handset and wait for the operator to come on the line to find out who you wanted to talk to. Our phone number at that time was 68.
I was a young child in the 80s and I still remember having a party line. ...our whole rural area shared one always-on line, and you'd pick it up and there'd be people talking on it. I think the operator could make someones phone ring, and then they'd be in the chat too and you could talk with them, like conversing in a fairly crowded room. Not a ton of sexting going on in that setup. Then again it was mostly 70's holdovers and pre-HIV, so, who knows.
Nobody thinks nor claims it's a flex. It's simply a direct rebuttal to the notion that their decision is income based. As for the ruining everyone's group chat comment I'm not sure how to respond to that. I mean, you're the one who sent your friend an old fashioned SMS message. It's Apple that provided you with a messaging app that is not capable of communication with other devices. Apple also deliberately uses higher compression than carriers require for SMS pictures to give the illusion that outside phones have poor picture quality. I think it's odd that people would demand that everyone they know buy a phone from a single company rather than demand that single company provide an open solution.
In the end this is a good thing though. Only a company approaching a monopoly position could produce a closed messaging system and still have people eating it up. As they get closer to that red line we'll start seeing action being taken by governments from around the world. If you think the current actions being taken by the US, UK, EU or Japan are a lot, just wait.
High school never ended… what used to be the trendy Jordan Nike Air shoes at the time, for the gen z it is the iPhone but for the older generation it is the fancy car parked on the driveway to not feel ostracized by the other fancy cars parked on the driveways.
And don’t get me started with the usual rant regarding having kids as a trend, McMansions, work in the office crotch swingings, etc.
Totally spot on: “what sad world we live in”.
iPhone is better than Android. The latest Samsung device is 20% slower. Open Podcast app and adjust voice speed to 0.75x…that’s Android
That's not entirely true. It's 20% slower in single core tests only but in multi core tests that gap falls closer to 12%. In the past single core scores were important because most apps weren't optimized for multi core but that simply isn't the case anymore. On top of that the latest Samsung S23 Ultra almost matches the Apple Pro Max 14 in battery life. That's without mostly restricting background apps like Apple does. I think one of the more interesting facts though is that the Galaxy S23 Ultra's GPU has doubled its score from last year and now beats the Pro Max 14 by around 25% in that category.
If you consider the S23U is -12% total CPU, has close to the same battery life and is +25% on the GPU side then it's becomes obvious there is no longer a decisive victory here.
Hopefully Apple hits back with their next A series so we can keep this progress going. A single dominant company is not good for anyone.
This is simply my reasoning for highly disliking SMS/MMS in general. They are NOT reliable for sending any form of media. Often times, photos and videos send as very low resolution, or don't get sent at all. Sometimes photos/videos are received twice or many hours/days later. It's simply not reliable. It was fine back in the early 2000s, but not in today's more technologically advanced world.
"an old fashioned SMS message" just say android 🤣 who also had years to come up with a viable imessage competitor and flopped at every attempt
curious, that on macrumors so many android defenders, there are. better, iphone is. all, that is. in AAPL should you invest now.
I don’t think most of us do grow out of it actually. Maybe to a degree, but I think mostly our peer groups and what they/we value just change, but we are still very influenced. It’s just hard to see now, just as it was hard to see then.
Edit- But maybe that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe it’s all a part of being innately social creatures. Independent critical thinking is good, but one is not always right and can easily go off the deep end on their own too (eg. crazy hermits). We need groups/herds/community too to keep us in check. Maybe it’s just about finding the right peer group.
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Likewise in Mexico. Most people use android phones and whatsapp is used for everything from chats with friends or family to work-related communications, delivery orders, insurance claims, community announcements or communication with government entities, so it’s very hard or perhaps impossible to not have whatsapp on our phones.
We can communicate, What's App and other messaging services.
Let Google make up their mind first on how to develop a decent messaging service on Android first.
What next, Zoom should be compatible with WebEx ?
Sorry, wasn’t meant as a quote. Just being colorful. The bulk of my point remains: people have been sucking since the beginning. 😜
Apple doesn't design new iPhone expecting that people will upgrade every year. they are expecting people to use iPhone for at least 3 years.
Social pressure is dumb, but is a force to be reckoned with. I resisted some of those things very well, but others not so much.
I heard at least half a generation got swept into being on Facebook, and not having a "sufficient presence" on there was "bad".
I'm pleased to see that my niece and nephew (11 and 16) haven't had to deal with using Androids. Then again, brand new Google Pixel 4A isn't that raw of a deal for kids of their age! And worth noting is my niece did get an iPad (Air? if not the base model line) recently, so there's always that for iOS!
I have talked with a few other families where they got their kids Androids. iPhones are too costly. They're welcome to earn money to pay the difference for a iPhone, but at the end of the day, many of them just wanted a perfectly functional phone, withouot the need for the Apple logo (esp. since some of them don't have any other Apple products).
I heard at least half a generation got swept into being on Facebook, and not having a "sufficient presence" on there was "bad".
I'm pleased to see that my niece and nephew (11 and 16) haven't had to deal with using Androids. Then again, brand new Google Pixel 4A isn't that raw of a deal for kids of their age! And worth noting is my niece did get an iPad (Air? if not the base model line) recently, so there's always that for iOS!
I have talked with a few other families where they got their kids Androids. iPhones are too costly. They're welcome to earn money to pay the difference for a iPhone, but at the end of the day, many of them just wanted a perfectly functional phone, withouot the need for the Apple logo (esp. since some of them don't have any other Apple products).
I don't trust what ever Google is using, so i don't want Apple to use that technology either.
And Google will ditch this technology in an year and start using new technology, we know this, we have history.
i am upset because when i open Zoom link in WebEx it doesn't work, WebEx, Teams and Zoom should use same technology and server so that i can use any app i want for the meeting.
Exactly, Google is not doing any charity here, they want money and iPhone users data.
Right now people are using What's App and other messaging apps, Google is missing out.
If Apple uses RCS then android users will start using google messaging app to send/receive messages from iPhones.
Agreed. I live in Japan, where everybody - Apple and Android users - use Line for messaging. Nobody uses Apple Messages here (at least nobody worth messaging!). But my UK friends - Apple and Android users - don’t even know what Line is! Do you?
By the way (or “btw” as the kids say), if I switch away from Line, I’ll lose all my Totoro stickers! And I’m Gen-X !