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Apple's Product Launch Security Profiled Ahead of iPad Debut

chaosbunny said:
What's the big deal about that bigger iPod Touch? :confused:
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Regardless of what YOU personally think of the device, it's a new product that gets its own launch, and Apple handles security for those products differently.

What's the big deal about accepting that? lol
 
TennisandMusic said:
I think the iPad will do fine but...this guy is basically saying it's going to change the world. I'm really not sure about that. Take over online gaming? Is he nuts? Does he not understand the gaming market whatsoever? I work on games for the iPhone and am considering the iPad, but ... more powerful platforms are much more desirable for online gaming. Does he really think millions and millions of people are going to be spending several hours a day playing online video games on the underpowered iPad, which only has touch input? I really don't see it. Plus, who wants to go from blu ray/netflix on amazing large screen tv's with terrific sound, to iTunes movies on a tiny screen? He argues content is the key, but for some content there are just far far superior platforms. Heck you could even argue that for "all" of the content (web, music, video, reading, apps etc) there are better platforms.
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Indeed, you make good points, so let me try to explain why I think, yes, the iPad is going to change the world. Did the original Mac change the world? You bet. We're still interacting with computer via GUIs and mice. Apple changed the world with a single product because others copied their idea and the personal computer era took on a new form.

The same thing is about to happen, only on a larger scale than the personal computer era. The tablet factor may not be the best gaming platform, or the best video platform, or the best music platform, but it is the VERY BEST platform at doing all of those things in a device you want to hold in your hands. Try doing that with an iMac!

Over the next decade we are going to see the rise of the tablet, non-mouse, touch form factor. Computers will still be around, but the tablet numbers will dwarf computer numbers. And no, it won't all be from Apple, but the touch ideas will have come from the iPad. And no, the tablet we'll use ten years from now won't be the iPad today, it will be ten times as good as what we see today.

Ten years from now the average person will have a tablet. The geeks might have a desktop or laptop still (in addition to a tablet), but the larger audience will have moved to tablets. The iPad will have changed the world.
 
Oh they will be trained...

I worked for Apple retail for over 3 years and while we never got to touch the actual product until launch day the training was in some instances ridiculous. The worst was the iPhone 3G activation training! It was mind numbing as was the process for most customers.
 
did anyone else watch the ipad videos on apples website? the one that stood out to me was the "video" video. in particular, they were promoting the visual beauty of watching movies on the ipad (example was UP) and the ease of navigating the movies you watch. anyway, during the video of "videos", i was completely fixated on the lady holding the ipad and imagining "who on earth is going to spend 90-120 mins HOLDING the ipad to watch a movie????" how freaking uncomfortable!

now, sure you can use one of the cases/stands for the ipad, but apple didn't attempt to get that across in the video. apple clearly wanted to show people how you do everything with the ipad via holding it yourself.

this product still confuses me on many levels. maybe i should go back to my crayons and coloring book.
 
aristobrat said:
Regardless of what YOU personally think of the device, it's a new product that gets its own launch, and Apple handles security for those products differently.

What's the big deal about accepting that? lol
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Who is not accepting it? Apple has always been secretive, with all its positive and negative effects. I just don't see anything even remotely interesting in the bigger iPod Touch. Just my opinion of course. lol, rofl & lmao ;)
 
rwilliams said:
Apple's paranoia is flat out ridiculous. Jesus, people, you're not creating defense systems or vaccines.
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Apple has no choice in the matter of security. With everyone and their uncle trying to copy Apple’s products, Apple only has a limited time to make up the money spent on R&D before someone pops out a knock off. Look at the iPhone, now every Smartphone wannbe is making knockoffs. iPad knockoffs are on the market before Apple managed to get it out. In the end I don’t blame them.
 
Mac4Brains said:
Apple has no choice in the matter of security. With everyone and their uncle trying to copy Apple’s products, Apple only has a limited time to make up the money spent on R&D before someone pops out a knock off. Look at the iPhone, now every Smartphone wannbe is making knockoffs. iPad knockoffs are on the market before Apple managed to get it out. In the end I don’t blame them.
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But their own store employees? What, is one of the "Geniuses" going to get a peek at the new product, take a picture or snatch one, and suddenly Dell or Motorola's going to have a functioning knockoff ready in 2 days?
 
Mac4Brains said:
Apple has no choice in the matter of security. With everyone and their uncle trying to copy Apple’s products, Apple only has a limited time to make up the money spent on R&D before someone pops out a knock off. Look at the iPhone, now every Smartphone wannbe is making knockoffs. iPad knockoffs are on the market before Apple managed to get it out. In the end I don’t blame them.
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the HP slate was conceived before the ipad rollout, as was other tablets, so not sure what your point was.
 
rwilliams said:
But their own store employees? What, is one of the "Geniuses" going to get a peek at the new product, take a picture or snatch one, and suddenly Dell or Motorola's going to have a functioning knockoff ready in 2 days?
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Dell and Motorola will start looking at iPads half an hour after sales are starting. If they could start looking at them 14 days before sales start, they would complete whatever competing product they are going to produce 14 days earlier. I don't know how long they would take, but they would finish 14 days earlier. And that could cost Apple lots of money.
 
dave1812dave said:
the HP slate was conceived before the ipad rollout, as was other tablets, so not sure what your point was.
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does this explain it better?

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/01/13/valleywag-offers-questionably-legal-100000-apple-tablet-bounty/

Cut and paste of the story in the link

Valleywag today announced that it is offering a bounty of up to $100,000 for information on Apple's much-anticipated tablet device. The reward ladder begins at $10,000 for "bona fide pictures" of the device, increasing to $20,000 for video. Potential rewards for more ambitious tipsters include $50,000 for pictures of Apple CEO Steve Jobs holding the device, and $100,000 for anyone willing to let Valleywag play with it for an hour.
We've had enough of trying to follow all the speculation around Apple's impending tablet -- how it'll work, its size, the name, the software and whether it will save magazines. We want answers, dammit! And we're willing to pay.

As a disclaimer, Valleywag "encourages" tipsters to stay within the law and notes that it will not pay out any prizes until the Apple tablet debuts in order to ensure authenticity. Despite the disclaimer, however, Valleywag's offer could easily face legal challenges as pointed out by TechCrunch.
We spoke to a lawyer about the legality of the bounty, who says that Apple could have a claim against Gawker/Valleywag for inducing breach of contract, since anyone who has their hands on the tablet is certainly under a nondisclosure agreement. This could result in tort damages, with potential for punitive damages.

Apple has reportedly scheduled a media event for later this month, where it is widely expected to introduce the new tablet device, likely giving potential entrants for Valleywag's contest just two weeks to produce their information.
 
gnasher729 said:
Dell and Motorola will start looking at iPads half an hour after sales are starting. If they could start looking at them 14 days before sales start, they would complete whatever competing product they are going to produce 14 days earlier. I don't know how long they would take, but they would finish 14 days earlier. And that could cost Apple lots of money.
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That sure has hurt the iPhone, hasn't it? People aren't as stupid as Apple would have you believe. They can see a knockoff for what it is.
 
dave1812dave said:
the HP slate was conceived before the ipad rollout, as was other tablets, so not sure what your point was.
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The HP slate doesn't have what makes the iPad special. It's not just the form factor, it's not just the software, it's the little touches that delight users of the iPhone in ways that don't happen to owners of other phones. It's the way multitouch is robust and pervasive throughout the OS that HP cannot figure out.

The iPad will be immediately copied by HP as soon as they get their hands on it. They may not be able to release a product that is just a knockoff because of legal issues, but you know they are going to study it to see all the areas where the HP makes things harder for the user.
 
Mac4Brains said:
Apple has no choice in the matter of security. With everyone and their uncle trying to copy Apple’s products, Apple only has a limited time to make up the money spent on R&D before someone pops out a knock off. Look at the iPhone, now every Smartphone wannbe is making knockoffs. iPad knockoffs are on the market before Apple managed to get it out. In the end I don’t blame them.
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Personally, I think it's more for hype than for security.
 
NebulaClash said:
The HP slate doesn't have what makes the iPad special. It's not just the form factor, it's not just the software, it's the little touches that delight users of the iPhone in ways that don't happen to owners of other phones. It's the way multitouch is robust and pervasive throughout the OS that HP cannot figure out.

The iPad will be immediately copied by HP as soon as they get their hands on it. They may not be able to release a product that is just a knockoff because of legal issues, but you know they are going to study it to see all the areas where the HP makes things harder for the user.
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Steve, that IS you!!
 
dave1812dave said:
Steve, that IS you!!
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Yeah, I know, I gush too much when it comes to the iPad. What can I say? I'm all in emotionally because something in my head clicked when I saw it for the first time in the videos of the event, and then thought about it for a few days, and read some articles. It just clicked. I knew. This was going to change the world. I couldn't be more certain of this. And before that time I was on the fence about the iPad. What would I use it for? I wasn't sure. Then I saw it, thought about it, and realized: everything.

This is not a device for geeks, though they will love it too. This is -- for the first time in Apple's history -- truly a computer for the "rest of us." And it will only get better in v. 2.0 and 3.0 and 4.0.
 
MacTheSpoon said:
Give me a break. This isn't even a new product, it's just a larger iPhone. There's something insulting about treating it like it's something revolutionary when it's really so unimaginative.

Now, if it ran a touch version of Mac OS X that let you install all your normal Mac programs, and it had the ports of a normal tablet, this kind of hype and security would be appropriate.
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I agree 100%
 
NebulaClash said:
Yeah, I know, I gush too much when it comes to the iPad. What can I say? I'm all in emotionally because something in my head clicked when I saw it for the first time in the videos of the event, and then thought about it for a few days, and read some articles. It just clicked. I knew. This was going to change the world. I couldn't be more certain of this. And before that time I was on the fence about the iPad. What would I use it for? I wasn't sure. Then I saw it, thought about it, and realized: everything.

This is not a device for geeks, though they will love it too. This is -- for the first time in Apple's history -- truly a computer for the "rest of us." And it will only get better in v. 2.0 and 3.0 and 4.0.
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IF I don't have some sort of a tablet by version 2 or 3 of the ipad, I might buy one too. I waited for ver 2 of the touch and very glad I did. no speaker or vol control on gen 1, sucked. Apple has to go further with their feature set for someone like me to be interested in their products.
 
PLiK said:
Do you mean that iTablet that Balmer flashed at CES?

Have they announced the specs and price on that yet? ;)
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ah, there's more to the tablet segment this year than just Balmer's dog and pony show. by the end of the year there will be a variety of tablets.
 
dave1812dave said:
IF I don't have some sort of a tablet by version 2 or 3 of the ipad, I might buy one too. I waited for ver 2 of the touch and very glad I did. no speaker or vol control on gen 1, sucked. Apple has to go further with their feature set for someone like me to be interested in their products.
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Yeah, I waited on my iPod touch too, and was glad for it. I was originally planning to wait for the next version of the iPad (camera, more storage, etc.), but I decided to jump now because I know if I get, say, version 3 whenever it comes out, I can give this one to a relative who would enjoy it. In the meantime, I get the fun of using an iPad.
 
NebulaClash said:
Yeah, I know, I gush too much when it comes to the iPad. What can I say? I'm all in emotionally because something in my head clicked when I saw it for the first time in the videos of the event, and then thought about it for a few days, and read some articles. It just clicked. I knew. This was going to change the world. I couldn't be more certain of this. And before that time I was on the fence about the iPad. What would I use it for? I wasn't sure. Then I saw it, thought about it, and realized: everything.

This is not a device for geeks, though they will love it too. This is -- for the first time in Apple's history -- truly a computer for the "rest of us." And it will only get better in v. 2.0 and 3.0 and 4.0.
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You get it. That is exactly what Apple has in mind. That is why the iPad will be ubiquitous and will transform how non-geeks interact with computers. Why, oh why, is this so hard to understand? I keep trying to get the message across, but I feel like a fledgling prophet, acting as a herald, crying out to those who pass by, only to find deaf ears wherever I turn.
 
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