That seems really quick to seem them in the Refurbished Store. Less than 3 months since launch.
While I do not keep track of when all the new Macs end up being offered on Apple's Refurbished Store, it seems that it is usually six months or more after their launch.
I have purchased many Apple Refurbished products over the years, including a few Macs.
I have not had any HW issues with any of them.
Actually, my 2006 Mac Pro 1,1 was an Apple Refurbished product, and it is still in daily use today.
One thing that should be noted is that refurbished Apple product is not the same thing as an Apple product refurbished by Apple.
At least in the US, there is no legal guideline defining what refurbishing an electronic actually entails. Finding a Mac on ebay labeled as refurbished could be as simple as the seller wiping the out case off with a damp cloth.
I'm not touching an MBP until there's a new keyboard. I'll stick with the 2012 until then.
...and there's gonna be a lot of them.
Good to know, thanks for pointing out the obvious.Its implied these refubs are from Apple (per the context of the article), refubed by apple . its common knowlege by now and even a noob could figure this out
At least in the US, Apple's Refurbished products have full warranties.Maybe there's some QC issues with a bunch of machines that never made it to sale, but repairing them meant that they could not offer the same warranties etc
From my own experience with Apple's Refurbished devices, I think that this could be true.Refurbished may not mean it's ever been used.
...and there's gonna be a lot of them.
Are you looking in the US Apple Refurbished store? There are currently 32 different configurations available of the 2019 MBP.You sure? Go look. Zero. All gone. Mac Rumors is an echo chamber of negativity.
I am pretty familiar with Apple's Refurbished devices.I dont know if that is an actual rule, or an ethical policy the company sets for itself...
Are you looking in the US Apple Refurbished store? There are currently 32 different configurations available of the 2019 MBP.
Typically one of the biggest downsides of getting an Apple Refurbished Mac is the lack of BTO options and having a choice of only what is available.
If there is anyone looking for a 2019 MBP, there is currently many, many choices to pick from.
Real world speed vs. your quoted percentages are two different things. My 2015 15" is plenty fast. Loads everything I use almost instantly. It's still a great computer despite being xx% slower than whatever computers you're talking about.
There is more than just spec's to how well a computer is useful. Having more ports and the MagSafe power port may be more important to some people. I picked up a 2015 off e-bay a year ago, got a couple MagSafe-1 to MagSafe-2 adaptors and now I have old power bricks scattered round the house where I use my MPB - 2015 (by bed, kitchen table, recliner where watch TV, and one in my travel case).At this point, that's silly. The fastest 2015 model is 19% slower in single-core and 56% in multi-core than the slowest 2019 model (the fastest? 27%/104%). And that's only the CPU…
Yep - for many people's needs, the latest "greatest" is far from necessary. I love my 2015 MBP & it is as fast as I need, has a lovely keyboard, and all the ports I require. There ARE people out there who need the fastest laptop possible for their work, but I would guess for the majority, not necessary...
Owning a Fast Car is only really worthwhile when you can drive it fast![]()
There is more than just spec's to how well a computer is useful.
I really dislike the new Refurbished Store. I created a thread about it shortly after Apple launched it.There's an issue with the filters in the refurb store.
This is really good advice, and similar to what I have posted in the past when people asking about new vs refurbish advice.I wouldn't sit on it though. Even when there's a healthy supply, the most desirable configs go very fast.
I really dislike the new Refurbished Store. I created a thread about it shortly after Apple launched it.
But still, one see a refurbished model with the spec they want, they shouldn't wait, because it could disappear at any moment.
why would apple even think im interested when they are selling duel core machines in the macbook air for over 1000 dollars when everyone is selling quad cores of the same cpu for half the money and apples 1.4 quad core machines in their "pro" line when the market is flooded with quad core 8565u machines. does apple even look at what other people are offering because their lineup doesnt reflect competitively to that. seriously apple there is no fn way your going to get me to spend 1200+ on a duel core machine in 2019.
Its implied these refubs are from Apple (per the context of the article), refubed by apple . its common knowlege by now and even a noob could figure this out
[doublepost=1566372562][/doublepost]
okay . good luck with those macos updates
Yeah, it's kinda screwy.
As a Web developer, I have some ideas why it's the way it is.
The issue isn't so much that it's not a list. It's that it's hard to get just the results you want if you know exactly what you want. I'd make a guess that they set off with the design goal of allowing people to browse for a computer based on just a single generic product spec. That person is looking for a 12" or a 13" laptop or maybe just a computer with 512GB storage. It's not the person who's looking for a 2019 13" i7 MBP Iris 655 with 2TB storage.
I really don't get why they wouldn't at least throw power users a bone and reveal some extra filter options if you choose MacBook Pro as your model. Then again, it's a very Apple thing to follow the design strategy that it's a fool's errand to try to make everyone happy.
And once you make your decision, just be happy with it. Don't torture yourself by wondering if you should have waited another week or another month should the price drop a little more. In the grand scheme of things it won't matter much. If you need the computer at the time you're buying, then you are always buying at the right time.
Is the 13 inch MacBook Pro also expected to be refreshed? I need to buy something for grad school and wondering if I should buy now or wait... I probably can hold out until mid September or so.
The 13-inch is expected to be refreshed, probably in October.
It doesn't make for a good UX.
The "majority" doesn't buy a MacBook Pro, though, so that's neither here nor there. The MacBook Pro is not the mass-market laptop. The oddly-named Air is.
Whichever Laptop people buy, most still do not need the latest / greatest version of that laptop, so your statement that it is "neither here nor there" is incorrect.
I haven’t seen any rumors to that effect.