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Apple's Refurbished Store Now Offering 2019 13 and 15-Inch MacBook Pro Models
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Its implied these refubs are from Apple (per the context of the article), refubed by apple . its common knowlege by now and even a noob could figure this out
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okay . good luck with those macos updates
UPDATE: I'm wrong. The filters were broken and zeroed the results.
You sure? Go look. Zero. All gone. Mac Rumors is an echo chamber of negativity.
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At least in the US, Apple's Refurbished products have full warranties.
From my own experience with Apple's Refurbished devices, I think that this could be true.
Over the years, I have purchased many Apple Certified Refurbished devices. I lots track of how many total, but they were Macs, iPods, AirPorts, ATVs, and an iPad.
Two of my four ATV3s were purchased as an Apple refurbished device. One of them was clearly a refurbished item based on the box it came in. The other had just a regular ATV3 box, with no indication that it was refurbished.
Of course I couldn't tell the refurbished ATV out of the box. I have never had an Apple Refurbished device that I could tell was refurbished once out of the box.
Are you looking in the US Apple Refurbished store? There are currently 32 different configurations available of the 2019 MBP.
Typically one of the biggest downsides of getting an Apple Refurbished Mac is the lack of BTO options and having a choice of only what is available.
If there is anyone looking for a 2019 MBP, there is currently many, many choices to pick from.
Of course I do not know the total quantity available, but if @GtrDude was referring to the amount of configs to choose from, he is right, there is a crap load of them.
I am pretty familiar with Apple's Refurbished devices.
Mac Rumors put out a really good refurbished guide a few years back too, if you want to check it out.
There are all sorts of reasons for Apple selling devices as Refurbished, but you are correct, water damage that was fixed could be one of them.
As for the reason that Apple cannot sell them as new, at least in the US, it would be illegal to sell a used device, refurbished or not, as new.
Sorry Apple.. You can attempt to quench my thirst by putting touch bar based macs on the refurb. store, but i go my own way.
The only probably with refurb store is not all are available in certain countries the same.
i.e iPhone on the refurb store in U.S, but nothing for Australia. If there was i would my bought something, but instead i had to settle for imports from Kogan mobile instead. (or Dick Smith subsidery)
The only probably with refurb store is not all are available in certain countries the same.
i.e iPhone on the refurb store in U.S, but nothing for Australia. If there was i would my bought something, but instead i had to settle for imports from Kogan mobile instead. (or Dick Smith subsidery)
My bad. You're correct. I'm wrong. There's an issue with the filters in the refurb store. If you try to narrow the results, everything disappears.
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I wouldn't sit on it though. Even when there's a healthy supply, the most desirable configs go very fast. I momentarily dawdled about pulling the trigger on a i7 2018 MBP with Vega 20 and 2TB storage when they first appeared in the refurb store. I went for it, but had I waited a few more hours, those would have been gone for weeks. The only ones left were the i9's and ones with 4TB.
I’m actually still on a late 2013 rMBP myself. It’s… fine.
If that machine still meets your needs, that’s great.
But buying a four-year old machine with a six-year old CPU (Apple never put Broadwell in it) as new is a different story. You’re spending a lot of money on aging tech, and that proposition is starting to get a little ridiculous.
There is more than just spec's to how well a computer is useful. Having more ports and the MagSafe power port may be more important to some people. I picked up a 2015 off e-bay a year ago, got a couple MagSafe-1 to MagSafe-2 adaptors and now I have old power bricks scattered round the house where I use my MPB - 2015 (by bed, kitchen table, recliner where watch TV, and one in my travel case).
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Yep - for many people's needs, the latest "greatest" is far from necessary. I love my 2015 MBP & it is as fast as I need, has a lovely keyboard, and all the ports I require. There ARE people out there who need the fastest laptop possible for their work, but I would guess for the majority, not necessary...
Owning a Fast Car is only really worthwhile when you can drive it fast
The "majority" doesn't buy a MacBook Pro, though, so that's neither here nor there. The MacBook Pro is not the mass-market laptop. The oddly-named Air is.
Well, yes.
I really dislike the new Refurbished Store. I created a thread about it shortly after Apple launched it.
This is really good advice, and similar to what I have posted in the past when people asking about new vs refurbish advice.
I would say that in the case of the 2019 MBP, there are so many options to choose from, which is pretty unusual in my experience.
But still, one see a refurbished model with the spec they want, they shouldn't wait, because it could disappear at any moment.
Yeah, it's kinda screwy.
As a Web developer, I have some ideas why it's the way it is.
The issue isn't so much that it's not a list. It's that it's hard to get just the results you want if you know exactly what you want. I'd make a guess that they set off with the design goal of allowing people to browse for a computer based on just a single generic product spec. That person is looking for a 12" or a 13" laptop or maybe just a computer with 512GB storage. It's not designed for the person who's looking for a 2019 13" i7 MBP Iris 655 with 2TB storage.
I really don't get why they wouldn't at least throw power users a bone and reveal some extra filter options if you choose MacBook Pro as your model. Then again, it's a very Apple thing to follow the design strategy that it's a fool's errand to try to make everyone happy.
And once you make your decision, just be happy with it. Don't torture yourself by wondering if you should have waited another week or another month should the price drop a little more. In the grand scheme of things it won't matter much. If you need the computer at the time you're buying, then you are always buying at the right time.
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Exactly, other PC laptops ship with 16gb RAm 512 SSD, touchscreen for almost half the price.
Apple edge, design and price are falling way behind competition. And that is why many users that used to upgrade every 3 years has been delaying to upgrade. Especially considering all the problems with the keyboard and having all soldered components.
I don't need mac os updates. I'm a student. As long as it runs word and excel i could care less. I far prefer it to a keyboard that could fail on a whim, when as a student I'm punching atleast 2000 words a day into this thing.
It doesn't make for a good UX. There's the danger of information overload, but there also has to be enough to help shoppers make their choices.
I guess Apple assumes shoppers will make use of the filters in the sidebar, but it's still annoying to be faced with a wall of options where the only way to quickly make a distinction between choices is clock speed or price. And that's after one has, say, already narrowed it down to 2019 27" iMacs. Worse, two different configurations can have the same price, and there's no way to distinguish between them without following their links:
Refurbished 27-inch iMac 3.5GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Retina 5K display
$1,779.00
Refurbished 27-inch iMac 3.5GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 with Retina 5K display
$1,779.00
Now, what's the difference between those two? Answer: one is 8GB/2TB Fusion, one is 16GB/1TB Fusion, but that can't be discerned from a glance.
Plus, for whatever reason, only the standard configurations have the percentage off savings noted.
Gotta pounce on the right opportunity. People have said that items literally go out of stock as they're checking out. Apple's terms make it a point to say that until payment is made, there is no sale.
As much as that design irritates me in the Refurb Store, I actually think it is a good design... just not for the Refurb Store. It shows that the refurb store isn't a priority.
Anyway, I'm intentionally not saying too much here to avoid hijacking this thread. I made more comments in Vertical Smile's thread on the topic.
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Whichever Laptop people buy, most still do not need the latest / greatest version of that laptop, so your statement that it is "neither here nor there" is incorrect.
If you don't need the specs of the newest MBP, you'll typically just buy a lower-end laptop instead. That way, you get full warranty, a long period of OS updates / other support, etc.
In this particular case, the rMBP offers interesting ports the tbMBP does not, so it's a more complicated proposition.
You're right, I may have stated that a little too strongly. The 13" MBP currently uses 8th generation processors, and there are 9th (and / or possibly 10th) generation processors which should be a fit for them. I think it likely that a CPU refresh may occur in October when the newest MBP is introduced, but it's not a sure thing.