No, he’s making an observation (correct) that a large number of people who wouldn’t even be in the market for a Mac Pro will still complain about all its supposed flaws.
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Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
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No, he’s making an observation (correct) that a large number of people who wouldn’t even be in the market for a Mac Pro will still complain about all its supposed flaws.
i use one professionally. it’s not 100% stabile, but neither are my macs. I can definitely say that my hackintosh had less (as in: zero) downtime since 2011, which can‘t be said about my other „real“ macs. sure, licensing is a bit dubious, but honestly, i don‘t care, and neither do my customers.
as for the new mac pro - sounds like they are still at the beginning of the design-process, and probably waiting for tb4 for external gpu support (you know, the „modular“ part). not sure, how fast they can create a new design and manufacturing line, but i guess it‘ll be late 2019.. but maybe we‘ll get a new mini in a similar form factor.
Interesting idea, but I'm not sure there are external interconnects that are fast enough for add-on CPU modules. GPUs yes as we see now with Sonnet GPU enclosures, but CPUs?
Professional to me doesn't just mean "I make money doing this," it is also a way of living. To me running illegal software is not compatible with being a professional person. To each their own.
Yep. Also, next year they probably get a much better choice for CPU and GPU, assuming Intel finally manages to get Ice Lake out and AMD delivers Zen 2/3 and Navi as expected.
This is one of the most encouraging pieces of Mac news I've read in a long time.
I am glad
are doing this, as it makes perfect sense in working with the Pro team they've assembled. It's a shame it took until 2016 for Apple to consider going in this direction.
I hope we get another thorough piece like this before the 2018 is out.
As for me, this article gives me a lot of hope and inspiration to stay put. It will also inspire me to get into design and video editing on a professional level; something I've wanted to do for eons now and eventually will. I'll hang onto my existing Apple kit.
I am glad
are doing this, as it makes perfect sense in working with the Pro team they've assembled. It's a shame it took until 2016 for Apple to consider going in this direction.I hope we get another thorough piece like this before the 2018 is out.
As for me, this article gives me a lot of hope and inspiration to stay put. It will also inspire me to get into design and video editing on a professional level; something I've wanted to do for eons now and eventually will. I'll hang onto my existing Apple kit.
And it will run on octo-ARM chips and an Apple designed GPU. But April Fools Day was 5 days ago. Too late for this joke. 2019 is too late for a revamped Mac Pro. Pros literally have few Mac options now. Sealed up iMac Pro or dated trash can. But Apple does care about Pros.
I still don't understand why literally everyone else in the industry can figure out how to put a motherboard in a box and sell it. Apple has to do all manner of mental gymnastics to come up with something different and "cutting edge," when all their pro users want is a powerful box with internal expandability capable of natively running OS X.
Doesn't seem you have lots of experience on how things go down with self employed professionals.
Freelancers, at their homes, if "skilled" enough or with a handy friend, can get a quite usable and stable hackingtosh to get their business running.
If Apple has been unwilling and/or unable to deliver hardware up to standard and demands of their user-base, that's Apple's problem. The show must go on for those that making a living depends on their tools. Shocking!
Just guessing, but maybe Mac Mini never comes back, but instead we get a Mac Pro Mini (at a higher price point, probably).
Does he want them to stop? He is not even saying that he himself is interested in Mac Pro (and yet he feels like commenting on it regardless). The only Apple thing he has in his signature is iPhone X2 512GB 5G.
I honestly think that they were getting ready to abandon the Mac as they thought that the iPad would grow into a Mac replacement.
I don’t mean by this that suddenly they were going to stop making Macs. More that they were going to taper things out.
The Mac Pro would’ve been the first to be abandoned. Then the Mac Mini.
The MacBook was going to be a replacement for the Air - and slowly come down in price to match the Air pricing and serve those who needed a cheap Mac laptop - until the iPad reached near feature parity.
MacBook Pros would be updated for 2016 and again, would be the last of their kind until the new iPad Pro solution was ready. A little bit later than the solution for MacBook users of course.
The iMac Pro was going to be the last of its kind and be Apple’s true new Mac Pro.
And the iMac would sort of sit there and get updated as and when.
It was obvious - these machines weren’t as profitable as iOS devices & their sales were not justifying any meaningful R&D spend. So they were just going to kinda sit there.
But something obviously happened.
Maybe Apple realised that content creators were fleeing its platform and that was a bad sign.
And with AVR and VR incoming if they abandoned the Mac they’d be at the mercy of other platforms regarding creating the content types which will dominate the 2020s.
And I think that Apple realised that getting the iPad to feature parity to be a powerful content creation machine with the horsepower and GUI to match was going to be too hard in the time frame and would likely compromise the simplicity of the iPad experience.
So they started to revinvest in the Mac. But these reinvestments take time.
I don’t know how you can explain the lull that happened from about 2015 onwards otherwise.
Makes sense it’ll be a 2019 product. Apple wants to sell iMac Pros this year. The new Mac Pro will no doubt be an amazing machine and hopefully a true successor to the 5,1.
Still using my 2013 Mac Pro "R2D2" as my main computer with a 2011 Mac Mini as backup. Love both of them but looking forward to updates. Please keep the headphone jack and keep Thunderbolt, HDMI, and a few USB 3 ports for backward compatibility. And make the internal components user upgradeable (RAM and drive at a minimum). And thank you for letting us know it won't be coming in 2018. Better to know when it is NOT coming than guessing.
I don't think that any sizable number of pro's have gone to a hackintosh. I think they have gone to Windows. I think the behavior of Adobe proves it.
Obviously you and awesome attitude dont need this kind of horsepower -- some of us do and this is a gut punch.
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im sure its all lies.
Yes!
Makes complete sense, since we have the fast cabling needed to support this. Buy a mini, if that's all you need, or buy 10 mini's if you need a powerhouse. At $500 each, that would be $5000, but you'd have far more processing power and resources than buying one $5000 Mac Pro! Talk about value!
6 years. Hp and dell are laughing at apple.
1. When all you can get is the same form-factor, then it tends to eventually become a "standard", even if it has issues/deficiencies for some Applications (e.g., big towers have big power supplies with big, noisy fans and hard drives. This is totally unsuitable for use in locations like studio control-rooms, editing suites, animation stations, and really anyplace where creative types do their work. Also, "Pros" often need much more raw compute-power than can fit into one machine's enclosure/architecture. But the only way to solve that for a "tower" (or rackmount) design is to gang them together. This causes unnecessary duplication of resources, plus even more noisy power supplies, etc., and is sub-optimal if that compute-power is working on the same dataset. Then there's the issue of Ports: You can only stuff so many cards in a Tower of ANY size. This severely limits the number of Ports that can be included in any one box. "Pros" often would like to use tools that are spread among differing Platforms. But the amount of resources needed for each of these "Pro-Level" tasks (and their Pro-Sized Datasets!) makes the classic Virtualization model somewhat impractical. Etc. etc.). But, depending on exactly WHAT "Modular" means, Apple could be solving some or all of those problems
2. People make money every single day with the 2013 Mac Pro, too. Now what?
3. It really does sound like Apple is starting with a clean sheet of paper, REALLY trying to address Pro Users' needs, rather than just making another "Me too" tower, which has long been nothing more than a race to the bottom. Something that Apple (wisely) stays far away from.
Companies with far less in the way of resources and expertise manage to release products that evolve with changing standards and improving technology. EVERY YEAR COMPANIES DO THIS. This includes releasing products with interface, processor, memory, storage and GPU technology that is available RIGHT NOW, but leaving options open where feasible for upgrades. The implication is that Apple can't design a platform that could use current technologies, but yet still be adaptable to periodically releasing an updated machine built on that platform design.
Being able to adapt incrementally to improvements is the whole point of a "modular" design. If I have to buy a machine with today's technology in it, and live with that even if a ThunderBusExtreme 4 LE capable machine might be available next year, I'll deal with it, or hope there's a PCI or TB solution if I truly need it later. That's the same "problem" every other workstation manufacturer and their consumers are forced to grapple with continuously. It doesn't stop other companies from releasing products; in fact most other companies I'm sure look at it as a sales opportunity or a chance to get in front of their competitors.
Apple is capable of this. They choose not to. If we're condoning Apple's mistreatment of the pro segment of their marketplace by suggesting it's sensible to wait for whatever is on deck for next year's technology to become available, we're going to be sitting in this same position for a very VERY long time, perhaps indefinitely if you adopt this philosophy in total.
Still, I appreciate the clarity, even if it's wrapped in some ridiculous and disingenuous guise of being customer focused. It looks like I'll be doing some research to upgrade the video cards in my aging 4,1 box since that's clearly where I'm going to be staying for quite a while.
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The one that would be announcing the fourth iteration of their already successful product much appreciated by their ‘pro’ users and lauded for their genuine innovation of the last three iterations.
That one.
The first question the workflow team asks after examining pros needs is, “so are you really sure you can’t just do this on an iPad?”