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Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
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Any company, no matter how great, gets things wrong occasionally. The wrong projects get started, the wrong products get prototyped, glaring errors are discovered as production starts, and sometimes it's products where everything seemed right but then just don't quite end up as well as it should. I don't think that's the worst thing. It's how you recover from mistakes that matter.
With the 2013 MP it should have been obvious from the start that it wasn't really going to deliver what customers wanted. At least over time. They should have started a recovery plan right away. If they'd had something improved or reworked out in 2015 or 2016, I don't think it would have been all that much of a disaster really.
What I suspect it might have been, is that they got locked into a very expensive manufacturing process and a design that was apparently difficult to change. They must have invested heavily in both, and perhaps couldn't or wouldn't allocate new investments in that direction right away. It must have been politics or power or money that got in the way. Nothing else makes much sense really.
Not sure pros would use hackintoshes...dubious licensing and stability issues. no thanks
Apple just isn’t going to do something like that. They’re going to go the extra mile to make it a special and unique market offering.
Have you ever conceived, designed, tested and manufactured a product from the ground up?
Didn't think so.
We need fat Mac PRO for power. Don't try to make it thin please. It does not need to be on diet.
Mine runs like clockwork. If you get the right parts, you won't have issues. Your skepticism would have been warranted 5 years ago, but not anymore.
Are saying that people who do want to buy a Mac Pro are going to like this news? Are you sane?
Apple's redesigned, modular Mac Pro aimed at professionals is set to launch in 2019, according to an update Apple recently provided to TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino, who took a trip to the company's Cupertino campus.
The team responsible for revamping Apple's pro product efforts was there to provide updated details both on the Mac Pro and how Apple is shaping it to meet the needs of real professional users.
Employees in the meeting included John Ternus, VP of Hardware Engineering, Tom Boger, Senior Director of Mac Hardware Marketing, Jud Coplan, Director of video Apps Product Marketing, and Xander Soren, Director of Music Apps Product Marketing.
Apple's current Mac Pro
Panzarino was told in no uncertain terms that the Mac Pro will not be arriving before 2019 as the product is still in development. From Tom Boger:Apple wants customers to know that the Mac Pro isn't coming in 2018 so those who are planning to make a purchase decision for a pro machine like the iMac Pro won't hold off in the hopes of a Mac Pro materializing later in the year.
In the time since Apple announced major changes for the next-generation Mac Pro last year, it has put together a "Pro Workflow Team" led by John Ternus, where employees who focus on pro-level products all work together.
Apple has also been hiring award-winning artists and technicians in an effort to understand the real workflows that creative professionals use to better tailor its products to them. The individuals shoot real projects and then use Apple's hardware and software to find "sticking points that could cause frustration and friction" for pro users.
Apple's Pro Workflow Team finds and addresses the issues that come up, even down to tiny details like tweaking a graphics driver, and it's not just Apple's products that benefit - the company's employees are also working with third-party apps. From Tom Bogar, senior Mac marketing director:The Pro Workflow team, in addition to improving current Apple products, is also an essential part of Mac Pro development. Their work is "definitely influencing" what Apple's planning for, with Apple achieving a "much much much deeper understanding" of pro customers, their workflows, and their needs. This understanding is "really informing" the work Apple is doing on the Mac Pro," according to Bogar.
No details were provided on the shape of the Mac Pro or the internal components that it might include, but Apple is still planning on a modular machine, as announced last year, so plans have not changed. Apple back then said that it was "completely rethinking" the Mac Pro, and that it is "by definition" a modular system. Apple at the time also said a pro display was in development alongside the new machine.
Panzarino says we're not likely to hear any additional detail about the Mac Pro at WWDC in June, and that he expects Apple will keep quiet about the machine until next year.
Panzarino's full piece on Apple's efforts to tailor the Mac Pro and other pro-level products to meet professional needs, which goes into much greater detail, can be read over at TechCrunch.
Article Link: Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
As many others have been saying in the comments, this is a ******** response from Apple. It’s what they said last time when they came up with the Trash Can Mac.
Here’s the thing Apple: some (many!) pro workflows still rely on CPU loads and don’t need 2 video cards. That they couldn’t figure this out 7 or 8 years ago shows that they obviously didn’t try very hard, or were just talking out or their arses. On this at least it sounds like they’ve learnt their lesson and multiple CPU sockets will again be an option in the future.
Also, how about some love for audio pros? You’ve been taking optical audio out of all your other products, yet it’s still used quite extensively and even preferred in some cases. Don’t ditch it on the Mac Pro! In fact, while you’re at it, how about a dedicated full-sized TOSLINK port rather than the combined headphone/optical. It’s more robust and leaves the headphone port available for other uses.
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LOL, that's such a lie. New motherboards are coming out ALL THE TIME for PCs and the processors for them work JUST FINE. All Apple has to do is not be completely STUPID with their design for a case, because that's about as much engineering they're involved with. You think they make the mobos, CPUs, GPUs, RAM, SSD, etc on their own? Apple does jack squat.
Nope, I haven’t either, but I see Dell and HP happily update their servers and workstations and even top end gaming computers yearly with no effort, and far less money then Apple!
Yeah it must be damn difficult for the worlds richest computer company with billions and billions and billions sat around, more money then some entire countries in fact, to design and replace a 5 year old computer for another 2 years.....
They already have the platform for the product they need to release, the OG MacPro.
Apple needs to get out of its own way and stop mind-****ing this thing to death.
They don't need to conceive, design, test, and manufacturing a product from the ground up. In fact what they need to do is the opposite of that.
There is precisely NO reason for them to do all of that. Apple could just put a new motherboard in their leftover 2012 Mac Pro cases and ship them next week. That's what pros that I work with want, not the trashcan and not a glued together iMac Pro.
That's what I came here to say.
I got tired of waiting. I really wanted a revamped/updated Mac Mini. Even when Tim Cook lightly touched the issue, there's still not even a rumour around, so I already bought a PC. Bad luck, but it serves my needs. If (or when) a new Mac Mini sees the light of day, I'll see what I'll do about it. So far, I can't afford other Macs and where I live they're VERY expensive (think of about 2X the price in the US and we earn much, much lower wages).
Yeah, unfortunately that's not how Apple operates. The optimal design for a modular powerful computer (aka workstation) is well understood and many companies produce them. But Apple can't use the same design like other companies. They have to be unique. They have to come up with some moronic design that is different for the sake of being different. If we are lucky, it's not much worse than what people really need (unlike the previous design).
This is why I believe the next Mac Pro will be based on the A12X. From the standpoint of power, the TDP on a single A12X is probably only like 10 watts. This means they could pack in like 12 A12X chips to get a combined TDP of 120 watts... which is reasonable for a pro workstation. Considering the A11X has three high-performance "Monsoon" cores each, a Mac Pro with 12 A12X chips could have 36 high-performance cores. If this is the case you're looking at 150K+ Geekbench multi-core scores.
I agree. I don’t know if it’s the loss of Steve and the transition to TC that’s the issue (many others keep saying so), but it’s like they’ve become very hostile to users and their needs and overly arrogant about their ability to change or control users to maximum their own profits.
I still think that the new Mac Pro and the Mac Mini replacement can be the same thing.
A stackable Mac with all the essentials in the base. Add stacks for additional GPUs, CPU cores, hard drives, custom cards, etc. This would satisfy Mac Mini enthusiasts that want a small yet expandable headless Mac that can function as a server, would suit entry level Mac users that want to replace their PC but keep their display, keyboard and mouse and would offer professionals a highly expandable Mac that can scale to whatever power needs they require.
A stackable Mac with all the essentials in the base. Add stacks for additional GPUs, CPU cores, hard drives, custom cards, etc. This would satisfy Mac Mini enthusiasts that want a small yet expandable headless Mac that can function as a server, would suit entry level Mac users that want to replace their PC but keep their display, keyboard and mouse and would offer professionals a highly expandable Mac that can scale to whatever power needs they require.
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Been here long? Read almost any other forum on MR including the non-pro iOS product forums.
Bring back the Quadra replace the internals with the latest components. Done!
It's amazing what Apple's customers will put up with. The device they are designing now should have been started years ago. Telling folks there is still a very long way to go? I'm not so sure anymore if MacOS is worth the trouble of their hardware decisions and timelines.
I hope this is an incredible setup. And I hope they also release a great monitor with it. And I'm thinking with Apple addressing the education sector, and overhauling (hopefully) Mac pro's design, they are trying to return to their roots for the hardware.
But boy do they beat up on their loyal customers.
I hope this is an incredible setup. And I hope they also release a great monitor with it. And I'm thinking with Apple addressing the education sector, and overhauling (hopefully) Mac pro's design, they are trying to return to their roots for the hardware.
But boy do they beat up on their loyal customers.