So a 1:3 ratio of engineers:marketing. I'm sure that'll inspire 'real professionals' with confidence.
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Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
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So a 1:3 ratio of engineers:marketing. I'm sure that'll inspire 'real professionals' with confidence.
Seriously... what real-world engineering needs to be done here ? The only reason that this can be taking so long to build is that they are doing some weird "innovative" engineering again... pros just want OSX, power and expandability.
Please Apple don't paint yourself into some wierd self-limiting corner again ... like the trashcan.
Please Apple don't paint yourself into some wierd self-limiting corner again ... like the trashcan.
I'd GLADLY take the same old cheese grater design with a new motherboard chipset, TB3, Titan X, etc.. Just release the thing already!
2019 makes sense if Mac Pro using Intel. That is just one more year before they officially use only ARM in Macs going forward. This will be one last jab at the pro Mac user by offering a high-end machine and then migrating to a new platform.
This is apple we're talking about, it'll be Dec 31 2019.
Based on the Average Sales Price for a Mac and rumored margins, you'd probably need to double that figure to $600 for Apple to capture the average lost revenue of you buying a PC (or parts to make a PC) and putting macOS on it instead of buying a mid-to-high level Mac. And that would not include driver support for hardware not currently found in Macs. If you want that, Apple would need to charge even more.
My Feature requests-
- Support for pro nVidia Cards (Thunderbolt breakout box?)
- User upgradable RAM / Disks /cpus
- dynamic E Ink keyboard (+touch bar)
- 5k+ Apple screen
Let's hope they finally bring back Dual Xeon... that will be pretty epic. GPU power is becoming more important... but blazing those 72,000+ Geekbench multicore scores will be 
I am hoping the same way about 10.14 support for the 5.1.
I also elected to go with the full-bore upgrades with mine as well.
Yep, that's my worry, too. When I complained earlier that it shouldn't take this long, my underlying concern (which I probably didn't voice well) is that it's taking this long because they're doing something wrong. Probably because they're trying to be too clever, which is the mistake they made (and essentially admitted to) with the current Mac Pro.
With their mea culpa last year, I thought, good, Apple learned a lesson. Now it looks like they didn't, and may be making the same mistake again.
Wow, 2019???
Color me shocked, why so long?
I have no need for such a machine but man alive that's a long time to wait.
Color me shocked, why so long?
I have no need for such a machine but man alive that's a long time to wait.
I just wanted a tower. Can't be that hard, surely?
They must have something else in mind than a tower. Goodness only knows what monstrosity they'll come up with. I pray it's good, but I'm a bit scared.
They must have something else in mind than a tower. Goodness only knows what monstrosity they'll come up with. I pray it's good, but I'm a bit scared.
I agree with others that the "pro workflow team" is encouraging. Hopefully one of the things they learn is that they need more engineering resources dedicated to Mac. The time between updates for the Mac Pro and Mac Mini are ridiculous. All the engineering resources are being consumed by laptops with little left for even the iMac. The mini and pro have basically been abandoned.
Hopefully the other thing the "pro workflow team" will learn is that ARM may, in fact, be an untenable move given the needs of pro users.
Hopefully the other thing the "pro workflow team" will learn is that ARM may, in fact, be an untenable move given the needs of pro users.
That is why they will switch in the 2020 .So is the quad core Ipad Pro the new Macbook Pro grand.
I believe they are trying to drag it out. They could have started acquiring the information years ago.
It should have been released the end of 2018 rather than the end of 2019.
I do however commend them for communicating the release year.
Translation: Oh god please please buy this old trashcan shaped one we have a warehouse full of them oh man what were we thinking.
What if Apple stopped servicing professional customers and nobody noticed because the professionals were already gone?
What if Apple stopped servicing professional customers and nobody noticed because the professionals were already gone?
So now they're going to start to learn what a pro workflow is, sit around thinking for another year, and then drop something with 2xXeon, 2xVega128, 64G RAM up to 256G, all the ports, and some modularity. How much of the final design is this "new" understanding of customer workflow really going to change??
If they were building something innovative I'd get it, but they're mostly building boxes that are 99% of a regular PC anyway. Just get it out already!
If they were building something innovative I'd get it, but they're mostly building boxes that are 99% of a regular PC anyway. Just get it out already!
What's interesting are some of the clues about what modularity might actually mean in reality. eGPUs and iPad Pros as input devices are two of the cited examples. This probably isn't the kind of modularity some Mac Pro enthusiasts have in mind, but it does make sense and Apple is already on this path.
I would be excited if this was the old Apple, but most likely we will see a "new" Mac Pro that is a derivative of the current design.
It will most likely be can shaped, black, and aside from supporting more modern components will probably not be nothing significantly different then today's design.
Tim Cook hasn't broken too many eggs after taking over from Steve Jobs, and the few designs he has allowed under his leadership that were never originally blessed by Jobs usually stink, like the tumor iPhone case or the fact that the iPad Pencil sticks out from an iPad jack at 90 degrees (and the fact the iPad now has a stylus). Almost everything else "new" since Tim Cook took over you can see it's pedigree having started with a Steve Jobs era design.
While this conservative incremental design approach might have been ideal for Tim Cook in the first few years, having not allowed the company to flourish in industrial design since Steve Jobs stepped down is becoming bothersome. And one could argue that if something ain't broke then don't change it, however that hasn't really applied to the Mac Pro product which many argued was broke to being with, offering limited upgrade potential and currently lacks the ability to upgrade to newer and more powerful components.
I think most professionals would prefer the ol' aluminum shoe box instead of a fancy tin can, but then again a lot of the users of Mac "Pro" are not necessarily the kind of pros that look for long term future proof designs.
Of course this could be it, the first real ALL NEW industrial design for an Apple product in the Tim Cook era. A small nostalgic part of me is still excited to see what will happen next, but a bigger part of me is setting myself up for lowered expectations and a reality of Apple hyping this up well beyond the reality this will be another tweak of a black tin can that just supports whatever Intel and nVidia offers as their high end technology in 2019.
It will most likely be can shaped, black, and aside from supporting more modern components will probably not be nothing significantly different then today's design.
Tim Cook hasn't broken too many eggs after taking over from Steve Jobs, and the few designs he has allowed under his leadership that were never originally blessed by Jobs usually stink, like the tumor iPhone case or the fact that the iPad Pencil sticks out from an iPad jack at 90 degrees (and the fact the iPad now has a stylus). Almost everything else "new" since Tim Cook took over you can see it's pedigree having started with a Steve Jobs era design.
While this conservative incremental design approach might have been ideal for Tim Cook in the first few years, having not allowed the company to flourish in industrial design since Steve Jobs stepped down is becoming bothersome. And one could argue that if something ain't broke then don't change it, however that hasn't really applied to the Mac Pro product which many argued was broke to being with, offering limited upgrade potential and currently lacks the ability to upgrade to newer and more powerful components.
I think most professionals would prefer the ol' aluminum shoe box instead of a fancy tin can, but then again a lot of the users of Mac "Pro" are not necessarily the kind of pros that look for long term future proof designs.
Of course this could be it, the first real ALL NEW industrial design for an Apple product in the Tim Cook era. A small nostalgic part of me is still excited to see what will happen next, but a bigger part of me is setting myself up for lowered expectations and a reality of Apple hyping this up well beyond the reality this will be another tweak of a black tin can that just supports whatever Intel and nVidia offers as their high end technology in 2019.
Yes, and that's horrible news for people like me (composer). Video editors will be perfectly alright with not being able to upgrade SSD's, DSP cards etc. So if they get a say in this, I think the PCIe card in Mac Pro will not happen and we'll have another Mac Pro with tons of cables dangling out of it. Not for video editors though, they only need one cable to a storage enclosure and another to monitor(s). Sigh... bad news indeed, not just the pace of it all.
EDIT: OK reading the full article at Tech Crunch says they do indeed include music production into the equation. So hopefully that will mean something. Of course it could still end up with a machine that only supports TB and proprietary Apple hardware.
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