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Apple's Revamped Mac Pro to Launch in 2019
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For Apple to first talk about ANY sort of timeline and second for them to admit that they were on the wrong path is a massive change and something that is very welcomed.
I'm hoping the iMac Pro is selling in reasonable enough quantities so the Mac Pro doesn't have to be rushed to market. I'm sure the iMac Pro should do fairly well for pro users when it comes to video editing.
The 17" MBP and 30" iMac will have to wait until Apple is making their own MicroLED displays in a couple of years.
User upgradable processors and graphics cards are simply silly in a laptop or all-in-one, or something like the mini. The designs are too tightly integrated for that to be possible. But I suspect all of what you wish is EXACTLY where Apple is headed with the modular Mac Pro.
They've DEFINITELY got something up their sleeve. Let's just all keep a positive attitude about it, ok?
So this means a sneak peek during WWDC 2019 .. with a launch in december .. which turns out to mean dec 31st with orders delivering march 2020 .. got it
Dump the dustbin!
Apple - please go back to the previous form factor or something similar, where there is loads of room for customisation, add-ins and extra cards. The fan layout of the previous format was excellent as well and even when working really hard, everything stayed cool.
Apple - please go back to the previous form factor or something similar, where there is loads of room for customisation, add-ins and extra cards. The fan layout of the previous format was excellent as well and even when working really hard, everything stayed cool.
Great news, looking forward if Apple manage to bring this whole thing together. Of course they can, but in the right way I mean. I've put enough money aside to buy this new machine to replace my current MacPro from 2010, 9 years later is a goog excuse to move on.
And therein lies the problem. Apple should be making products for CUSTOMERS rather than for Apple. Rather than all this techomasturbation with design, just give people what they want and need and they'll sell a truckload. There's ample evidence that while a mini might not be important for Apple, there's loads of folks who'd sorely love to get their hands on an updated one. I'd wager given the volume they'd sell vs. the volume of Mac pros, the profit comes out similarly high.
I agree, still love the MacPro 2010 design! But Apple "promised" to do it right this time and to build a modular machine. Looking forward to 2019, hopefully not the end of 2019 tough...
I think you are missing the point that Apple was making in that discussion they had with the reporter. That team is charged with looking at all Macs and pro workflows, not just trying to cobble up Mac Pro only stuff.
Apple is not trying to keep capabilities exclusive to the Mac Pro. They'll try to make all the Macs do as much as they can. Whatever is left over the Mac Pro can go grab. "only the Mac Pro can use bigger GPUs". ... well no. that isn't what they are going to do. The other Macs aren't going to completely cover what the Mac Pro could do, but they aren't trying to make that "left over" space bigger to funnel more users into buying that particular Mac system.
I suspect that they are not looking to make it completely dependent upon eGPUs but for folks in corner cases ( need more than two ) than Mac Pro would lean on same solution the rest of the Mac line up uses. The same iPad Pro Logic control solution would work on Mac Pro also ( again not doing Mac Pro exclusive solutions).
If Apple sharpens up the lines between the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro very clearly then they could sell them with some pretty heavy hardware overlaps and not get high fratricide between the two systems. The folks who were OK with the iMac approach would buy it and the folk who the iMac solution will "never work" would buy the Mac Pro.
Totally bizarre. A company sitting on a mountain of cash designs a computer that can't reasonably be user-upgraded and then doesn't bother to update that design for years. I honestly don't know what Apple was thinking and why they choose to ignore industry-wide PCIe slot standards. I wouldn't touch a trash-can Mac Pro even if they were steeply discounted which they're not. Exactly who would be buying those ancient relics now?
Sounds all lovely but some things are concerning..
The MacBook Pro isn’t exactly what pros want, 16GB limit, touch bar, and only USB C ports... and no change to this in sight.
And I noticed only a director of music and one for video ‘apps’?? So no photos director them, shame considering once upon a time many a photo studio was adorned with a Mac Pro.
In fact this product smells to me like something being designed for the You Tube generation, they see those people as the new ‘Pro’ market.
Perhaps the only reason music is still relevant is because people see the brands logo on machines in DJ booths around the globe? All about marketing and sales after all... and what better way for that then for the You Tube stars to buy the machines and promote them. All about sales.
Meh or perhaps I’m being cynical, at least we can be confident it’ll cost a fortune.
The MacBook Pro isn’t exactly what pros want, 16GB limit, touch bar, and only USB C ports... and no change to this in sight.
And I noticed only a director of music and one for video ‘apps’?? So no photos director them, shame considering once upon a time many a photo studio was adorned with a Mac Pro.
In fact this product smells to me like something being designed for the You Tube generation, they see those people as the new ‘Pro’ market.
Perhaps the only reason music is still relevant is because people see the brands logo on machines in DJ booths around the globe? All about marketing and sales after all... and what better way for that then for the You Tube stars to buy the machines and promote them. All about sales.
Meh or perhaps I’m being cynical, at least we can be confident it’ll cost a fortune.
Steve stood on stage in 2005 and said, when announcing the Intel transition, that they still had a bunch of PowerPC products in the pipeline. This was a few years before he said they'd be submitting the iMessages protocols to a standards body.
On has to really wonder.
Going back a few years.
Apple had, arguable some of the best computer people in the world today.
They could, without question AFFORD to buy the best.
With all their skill, talent, knowledge and decades of experience.
How on earth could any such company get it so very very wrong, than to make the trashcan?
Is Apple, despite everything full of people who are not allowed to say what they are thinking or question someones plan, when anyone should have seen what a mistake they were doing.
What's worrying is, if we were back then right now, no one would imagine Apple would do that.
So one has to ask. Have they learned, or are they going to do the same thing with another future product?
Is it arrogance?
Is it stupidity?
Is it a lack of skills/talent?
What's the problem?
Going back a few years.
Apple had, arguable some of the best computer people in the world today.
They could, without question AFFORD to buy the best.
With all their skill, talent, knowledge and decades of experience.
How on earth could any such company get it so very very wrong, than to make the trashcan?
Is Apple, despite everything full of people who are not allowed to say what they are thinking or question someones plan, when anyone should have seen what a mistake they were doing.
What's worrying is, if we were back then right now, no one would imagine Apple would do that.
So one has to ask. Have they learned, or are they going to do the same thing with another future product?
Is it arrogance?
Is it stupidity?
Is it a lack of skills/talent?
What's the problem?
No.
This sounds more like "We (finally) admit we don't have ALL the answers, and would be well-served to actually get some feedback from our intended market BEFORE we waste millions designing a product that misses the mark, like with the 2013 Mac Pro."
So, which would YOU rather see?
That is all going to depend on who is really in charge of the product development.
"...and the companies forget what it means to make great products."
No. For the most part the iMac Pro is the replacement for the vast majority of folks who bought the MP 2013. Apple is only keeping the MP 2013 around now primarily as a placeholder for the next Mac Pro. They probably don't have huge inventory and don't have any new production queued up to make more. Apple reduced the prices ( well really moved the better specs to lower price points) last year. There were some fire sales by 3rd parties during the Black Friday / Cyber Monday holiday sales windows.
For folks getting off the MP 2013 has a solution so there is no "major wildfire" crisis. the folks on super old 2009-2010 era stuff have waited pretty long anyway. ( yes some will stomp off in disgust , but also not a huge group either. ) .
I suspect that this is really early 2019, not mid or late 2019. That something that could have arrived in Dec 2018 is there were zero bumps in the road will show up on the conservatively predicated time of early 2019 (because there are always bumps in the road in new development projects ).
Apples latest release clearly shows it has no interest in Nvidia by ONLY supporting egpu’s from AMD. Which is stupid, but then again so it totally ignoring and abandoning the Pro market for several years, deciding you should look at it when the public outcry becomes more public and theirs a risk of damage to the brand... again this is clearly obvious by the fact they have only been designing a new machine since last year! Despite the trash can being FIVE YEARS old now!
In fact this story is yet another example of Apples greed, because it has all that money, and yet can’t even employ enough people to develop multiple devices at once! Thus making cut backs and more profits. And it’s clear the iPhone is THE number one product for all its development efforts bar none, along with Apple Warch straps at obscene costs, they charge £150 for a simple plain ordinary leather one! I could get some exclusive designer luxury one for the same cost!!
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And I'm sure that the 3rd party's that were discussed here in the post can not wait to take all of their software and rewrite it from scratch to deal with the realities of the system that you have proposed. 8 processors with say 4 cores each (32 core system) would require an entirely different way of doing just about everything. Adobe refuses to update their main pro products from 32 bit on the mac because of how much low level code they would have to rewrite. Even as they have ported all of their products to 64 bit on Windows. I'm sure they would be happy to take on the challenge you offered. NOT.Mac Pro with Quad Apple A14X processors configurable up to 8, Mac iOS 12...
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Never mind that with Intel you can build a system that would smoke that with what is it 52 cores, with only 2 processors.
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You do realize that you made two self-cancelling statements:
1. Something's amiss if it takes them two years or so to design a new Mac Pro.
vs.
2. I don't know what it takes to design a new computer, but Apple does.
Kinda shot yourself in the foot on that one, LOL!
Oh, and the emphasis is on "NEW". Dell, HP, etc. have just been rearranging deck chairs on the same boat for pretty much ALL their histories.
Show me a TRULY "new" Dell or HP design. The original Mac mini and the 2013 Mac Pro (whatever you may think about it) are "NEW" computer designs. If Apple TRULY is designing another NEW computer concept, 2 years is actually pretty ***** FAST!
Remember, for something like this, they will probably have AT LEAST 2 or 3 complete prototype designs that never make it out of the R&D Lab. Then there's all the REAL work of bringing whatever product they end up settling-on to market. That ALONE usually takes nearly a year.
...unless all you are doing is rearranging Deck Chairs...
"Fiscal Reasoning" applies to the customers, not Apple. Apple is telling those customers that the Mac Pro will not ship this year so if they were holding off on buying this year because they thought/hoped/expected a Mac Pro release this year, that is not going to happen so if they are in the market for a new Mac this year (like an iMac Pro), then buy now.