Does that really add anything meaningful? Did anybody think Apple was going to use X50 this year? Or still use X55 in 2024?
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Does that really add anything meaningful? Did anybody think Apple was going to use X50 this year? Or still use X55 in 2024?
My first thought was, "Maybe I should wait till next year." But then, I could say that every year. Eventually we'll have iPhones that last a week on a single charge and pick up transmissions from Mars. But for now I'll settle for the 12.
You're gonna have to provide evidence. Not that a Huawei modem would ever be an option for Apple, but Samsung would. Please provide links to 5G smartphones that support mmWave powered by Samsung modems. Thanks in advance.
Samsung S20 uses Exynos 990
Huawei P40 uses Balong 5000
Seriously, you couldn't Google these yourself?
Apple had no issue with iOS13 naming.
Please look at what a standard essential patent is. Patents that are critically related to 5G are considered as standard essentials patents.
And no, Qualcomm did not invent 5G.
Ericsson is quite big in developing base stations too, not chips for phones as far as I’m aware...
Verizon first to receive Ericsson U.S. produced 5G base station
Ericsson’s delivery of U.S. produced 5G technology is underway as Verizon becomes the first recipient of a 5G base station manufactured at Ericsson’s new smart factory in Texas.
The Samsung S20 powered by Exynos doesn't support mmWave, though. Only the Qualcomm Snapdragon-powered version with the Qualcomm X55 modem does.
Ericsson is quite big in developing base stations too, not chips for phones as far as I’m aware...
Verizon first to receive Ericsson U.S. produced 5G base station
Ericsson’s delivery of U.S. produced 5G technology is underway as Verizon becomes the first recipient of a 5G base station manufactured at Ericsson’s new smart factory in Texas.www.ericsson.com
Ericsson doesn't make the chips (as you stated). Their base stations are mostly powered by Qualcomm chips
Try again. https://www.anandtech.com/show/1560...-exynos-snapdragon-review-megalomania-devices
| Snapdragon 5G - Snapdragon Modem X55 (Discrete) (LTE Category 24/22) DL = 2500 Mbps - 7x20MHz CA, 1024-QAM UL = 316 Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM (5G NR Sub-6 + mmWave*) DL = 7000 Mbps UL = 3000 Mbps *Depending on region and model |
| Exynos 5G - Exynos Modem 5123 (Discrete) (LTE Category 24/22) DL = 3000 Mbps 8x20MHz CA 1024-QAM UL = 422 Mbps ?x20MHz CA, 256-QAM (5G NR Sub-6) DL = 5100 Mbps |
| Exynos 4G - Exynos Modem 5213 (Discrete) (LTE Category 24/22) DL = 3000 Mbps 8x20MHz CA 1024-QAM UL = 422 Mbps ?x20MHz CA, 256-QAM |
What are you talking about?? The model is out there... https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/19/...0-uw-ultra-wideband-mmwave-verizon-date-color
No, the supply agreement was never specified as anything other than multi-year. This new information shows Apple’s intention to use at least the X65 in a launch sometime in 2022-2024.
The real info here is that Apple thought their own 5G modem might be ready for fall 2023 such that no X70 devices would be necessary.
You aren't wrong. But do you really thing Apple didn't perform due diligence and select the best performing chips for their phones? The last thing they want is another Intel modem fiasco
X55 is state of the art for phones launched/-ing in 2020
That's the Qualcomm-powered version. You just made the point for me. There is no Exynos version that supports mmWave.
So you'll ignore Samsung's own specs. And pretend because a device doesn't have an mmWave antenna, the modem doesn't mmWave.
Exynos Modem 5123 | Modem | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Exynos Modem 5123 supports efficient and excellent performance in various networks through a 7nm EUV process, up to 8CA, and multiple input/output technologies.
www.samsung.com
My original play was to upgrade in 2023, but with this information, I’ll upgrade my iPhone X in 2024.
So you'll ignore Samsung's own specs. And pretend because a device doesn't have an mmWave antenna, the modem doesn't mmWave.
Exynos Modem 5123 | Modem | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Exynos Modem 5123 supports efficient and excellent performance in various networks through a 7nm EUV process, up to 8CA, and multiple input/output technologies.
Again, mmWave is not enabled on their devices. It doesn't exist yet. There is no Exynos-powered smartphone that uses an Exynos modem and supports mmWave. This is not complicated.
So you'll ignore Samsung's own specs. And pretend because a device doesn't have an mmWave antenna, the modem doesn't mmWave.
Exynos Modem 5123 | Modem | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Exynos Modem 5123 supports efficient and excellent performance in various networks through a 7nm EUV process, up to 8CA, and multiple input/output technologies.
There's more factors to it than data rates. Their is chip reliability, power efficiency, etc..
Why do you think Samsung continues to use snap dragon modems despite exynos performance being about the same? It is about more than just speed.
Hmm, this page https://www.samsung.com/semiconduct...3726X1523008X48dafef91febcac9d3b21bccfcd2b02a says otherwise:
Powered by Samsung’s cutting-edge innovations, Exynos Modem 5123 delivers unrivaled performance to unlock the power of ultra-fast connectivity. In 5G, the modem supports mmWave and sub-6GHz spectrums, as well as NSA and SA networks.
and they still might do their own modem, it might not go into an iPhone at first, who knows?