Nice try shifting the argument.
Your claim was: "How many of them currently produce a working mmWave 5G modem? None."
Debunked.
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Apple's Roadmap for Using Qualcomm's 5G Modems in Future Products Revealed, Including X60 in 2021
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Nice try shifting the argument.
Your claim was: "How many of them currently produce a working mmWave 5G modem? None."
Debunked.
It doesn't exist yet. Hasn't shipped in a commercial product. Not available. The quoted mmWave support is vaporware.
Hmm, Huawei P40 ships with Balong 5000, and they said:
Balong 5000 is an industry-leading 5G multi-mode chipset that supports 2G, 3G, 4G, and 5G networks on a single chip and ultra-fast 5G rate in the industry. Balong 5000 leads the industry in the 5G peak download rate. It achieves 4.6 Gbps in the Sub-6GHz frequency bands, twice the industry average. It also achieves 6.5 Gbps in the mmWave frequency bands and 7.5Gbps if plus LTE dual connection, 10 times faster than top 4G LTE speeds on the market today.
Which phone has the working Exynos mmWave modem? None, because they don't exist. If you want mmWave support in a Samsung product, you have to have a Qualcomm modem. Period, end of story.
Now you're conflating Samsung and Huawei. Exynos is not shipping a modem that supports mmWave. It doesn't exist.
Huawei, on the other hand, does have a working mmWave modem. But they would never be an option to supply Apple for myriad of reasons (performance, power draw, national security...).
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Exynos Modem 5123 does not support mmWave in ANY version of the S20 that's currently available. Try again.
You're not Chinese, are you?
You'll need to provide sources to back up your claim that the Chinese don't like the number 13 because this is the first time I've been made aware of it.
I'm only aware of the number 4 being unlucky/bad.
Just mentioning this because you said “How many of them currently produce a working mmWave 5G modem? None.” Which is untrue.
Exynos Modem 5123 | Modem | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Exynos Modem 5123 supports efficient and excellent performance in various networks through a 7nm EUV process, up to 8CA, and multiple input/output technologies.
www.samsung.com
He clearly lost the argument and is now trying to nitpick to save face.
no, they did not ... there's an industry consortium that sets the standards, not a single company ... might want to read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G
They intend(ed) to use at least X65 in 2024, but that’s all they committed to (that we know of).
I am just trying to see why he/she thinks that Qualcomm is the sole inventor of 5G. It clearly is a combined effort of many different companies. X55 is a great product but it isn’t the only one out there. Not saying Apple shouldn’t choose X55.
What happend to Apple’s efforts to introduce their own Modem after buying Intels Modem business about a Year ago?
I bet it will be the iPhone 12s and Pro S. They've done that update before. 'S' for speed of the modem and the new processor is my guess. The real 5G phone.
Nothing happened to it. They're still working on that. What's on topic today deals with the already known roadmap for Apple's use of Qualcomm modems. The same roadmap that was announced when they acquired Intel's modem business. Today's article doesn't change anything. It just provides more detailed information.
You don’t see that in the article; you just made that up to hate on Apple it seems. Bored?
Exynos Modem 5123 | Modem | Samsung Semiconductor Global
Exynos Modem 5123 supports efficient and excellent performance in various networks through a 7nm EUV process, up to 8CA, and multiple input/output technologies.
You keep referencing that 5123 product page, but the mmWave feature does not exist in a commercial product yet. It's not ready for prime time. That feature is not part of any Samsung S20 (unless it uses a Qualcomm modem).
I suppose they're still working on it, people seem to think that Apple will have its own modems ready in 2021/22 or so, in order to make it into the iPhone, it will need a little longer than that but the first apple modem might go into some other product
Not at all. Samsung doesn't have a working mmWave solution to offer Apple. Their own Exynos-powered smartphones do not offer mmWave support. Huawei... good grief. Not an option for myriad of reasons. So they shipped one poor performing mmWave modem in a P40 once upon a time. I'd honestly forgotten, and they're exiting the whole mobile game anyway.
I'm looking forward to next year's iPhone. I skipped this year (one of the very few times I skipped upgrading) because
iPhone 13 should have
1. sensor shift built into non-max
2. 4K, 120FPS slow mo
3. 120hz display
4. sideways and any angle FaceID
5. better power efficiency 5G
6. significant leap in cameras that finally fully utilize Lidar (right now it's just there for devs)
I look forward to upgrading.
iPhone 13 should have
1. sensor shift built into non-max
2. 4K, 120FPS slow mo
3. 120hz display
4. sideways and any angle FaceID
5. better power efficiency 5G
6. significant leap in cameras that finally fully utilize Lidar (right now it's just there for devs)
I look forward to upgrading.
You said it didnt go "under the radar" - the article had nothing to do with how meaningful it was. Although one could absolutely argue that it's exclusive news.
I'd also argue that all the people posting and reading on this article have found something meaningful out of this article - and I bet that this info will start to be written about in lots of other outlets shortly.
Not that we have any details yet, but the document is the first "announcement" of the X65 and X70 chips.
People were unsure whether Apple would launch with X55 or X60 this year due to the sole DigiTimes article, no one thought it would have X50.
So 2021 iPhone is rumored to have 120Hz display, smaller notch, and potentially X60 modem. Definitely will be worth upgrade from 11 Pro.