Zirel
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I agree with you, but it's not slow, it's fast decline.
Also, VentureBeat is crap. They never came up with a valid rumor. They always trash talk Apple.
People believe in what they want.
Apple's Rumored Amazon Echo Competitor Could Be a Next-Generation Apple TV
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I agree with you, but it's not slow, it's fast decline.
Also, VentureBeat is crap. They never came up with a valid rumor. They always trash talk Apple.
People believe in what they want.
It has stopped doing that with one of the recent updates. You now need to click the touchpad first before it goes into scrubbing mode. Much better.
ThunderSkunk
macrumors 601
Should be. Should also connect to little satellite pods in each room, and each one should have an infrared sensor on it, and as you walk from room to room it should turn lights on or off agead or behind you, fade the music up or down ahead & behind you as you go, and display whatever youre asking for on the nearest display to you.
Also, it should be intelligent, and actually learn. If a million people ask siri to play or pause a podcast, and then manually go into an app called podcasts and play a podcast with the title that has the same words in it they just requested, siri should start putting 2 & 2 together and coming up with an answer from 3 to 5, & not just say its not playung the music app a million times.
Also, it should be intelligent, and actually learn. If a million people ask siri to play or pause a podcast, and then manually go into an app called podcasts and play a podcast with the title that has the same words in it they just requested, siri should start putting 2 & 2 together and coming up with an answer from 3 to 5, & not just say its not playung the music app a million times.
ksnell
macrumors 6502a
I agree with everything except the Blackhawks logo.
Go Caps! After enough misery the Capitals will have their glory!
Icaras
macrumors 603
I agree, so here's hoping that Apple does indeed have it's own 4K content plans in the near future.
Simple. The Apple TV is the hub. If you want remote speakers with mic... there's a wireless Beats Pill you can use.
dancefreak
macrumors 6502
As do I.
Everything new produced on Netflix/Amazon/etc. is available in 4K. And catalog content is constantly being updated. Even DirectTV recently launched the first 4K channel. Sure it's not everywhere yet, but availability has picked up very fast in the last six months. Even last year your comment would ring true but we're over the hump now and that's no longer the case.
Precision Gem
macrumors 6502
Building the Echo type features in the AppleTV I think would be a bad move, and not practice for many people. My Apple TV is inside the cabinet with the TV on top, so the location would be very bad for it to "listen" to. Plus the device would be way more useful it it were portable. Who wants to unhook the TV to move the device around?
I saw the Echo on QVC the other day, and thought it would make sense for someone like my mother who is almost blind. She can't use an iPad, Computer etc, but can speak and listen.
I saw the Echo on QVC the other day, and thought it would make sense for someone like my mother who is almost blind. She can't use an iPad, Computer etc, but can speak and listen.
cmichaelb
macrumors 68020
Why not have tv connect to your phone via bluetooth? Problem solved.
I'm sure 4K is on the upgrade list. Putting an API enabled Siri into Apple TV just ups the platform even more. Most households, the television is a center of activity. Enabling the voice interaction at the already existing "hub" for home automation, third party apps and as a smart home control center makes a lot of sense.
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ssgbryan
macrumors 65816
I am not surprised that heat dissipation is an issue, I have a large stack of apple products that died because they overheated. Sir Idiot Boy doesn't seem to understand that not everyone is comfortable keeping their homes at 68 degrees F.
Every form of the current TiVo line-up is better than the Apple TV. Unless Apple buys Comcast or Time Warner, it is just an intermediary provider, just like TiVo or the other streaming devices.
Heck, it does not even want to provide cell service, whereas, a company called Cingular became so big that it bought up AT&T, and renamed itself!
Heck, it does not even want to provide cell service, whereas, a company called Cingular became so big that it bought up AT&T, and renamed itself!
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BrianKonarsMac
macrumors 65816
Siri needs a complete overhaul and that overhaul needs to be made available to any device currently capable of running Siri (not just slapped onto the next iteration and further fragmenting device capabilities e.g. force touch). When I first got a phone with Siri I thought that's pretty cool... then I tried using it, found the experience to be an exercise in frustration and have never bothered again. I'll never touch another Apple voice product again until they prove they're capable... given their bank roll they honestly have no excuse for not being best in class.
When I went to buy a new box for the TV (!#%$%^ you HBO for not having HBO NOW on PS4!... probably going to get an Xbox One, new variants next year!) I was looking at Apple TV, Roku, Chromecast and Fire TV. I eventually whittled it down to Roku and Fire TV based on price and functionality (Apple TV didn't offer any extra features I was interested in and was 2x the price... and I want 4k content). Based on my poor experience with Siri, I almost just got a cheap fire stick but 4k pushed me to the Fire TV.
The Fire TV's voice control is flawless based on the past 2 months of use. All I can think is wtf, how is Apple SO FAR BEHIND in this space when they were the first ones here. It's really depressing me. My friends rave about their Echo too.
I want Apple to do well... I converted my entire family back in the days of OS X 10.1. More and more though I find myself ready to jump ship completely as I watch Apple play the 'me too!' game instead of 'me first!'. Hoping Apple is ready to get their head back in the game, I can't take another watch band announcement.
When I went to buy a new box for the TV (!#%$%^ you HBO for not having HBO NOW on PS4!... probably going to get an Xbox One, new variants next year!) I was looking at Apple TV, Roku, Chromecast and Fire TV. I eventually whittled it down to Roku and Fire TV based on price and functionality (Apple TV didn't offer any extra features I was interested in and was 2x the price... and I want 4k content). Based on my poor experience with Siri, I almost just got a cheap fire stick but 4k pushed me to the Fire TV.
The Fire TV's voice control is flawless based on the past 2 months of use. All I can think is wtf, how is Apple SO FAR BEHIND in this space when they were the first ones here. It's really depressing me. My friends rave about their Echo too.
I want Apple to do well... I converted my entire family back in the days of OS X 10.1. More and more though I find myself ready to jump ship completely as I watch Apple play the 'me too!' game instead of 'me first!'. Hoping Apple is ready to get their head back in the game, I can't take another watch band announcement.
What I like is people who call other people stupid when they don't know what they are talking about. I use my Amazon Echo from 12 feet away all the time. Works great.
Because (1) the mic in a phone is not designed to pick up voices over longer distances and (2) it's often in someone's pocket rather then out in the open in a central location in the home.
npmacuser5
macrumors 68000
You have disabled "Hey Siri" on all your IOS devices?
Carl Sagan
macrumors 6502a
Make sense. Tbh I can see the Beats acquisition making even more sense. I don't hold much hope for Siri though, that's been a serious disappointment since release...
I agree with everything except the Blackhawks logo.
Not to hijack this thread, but misery continues for the Caps until they reach the SCF.
Chew Toy McCoy
macrumors regular
I thought my transformation into an old man would be denoted by belief that no great music is being released anymore, but it looks like that isn’t going to happen. Instead my graduation into old manhood took the form of my complete disinterest in talking at inanimate objects.
Carl Sagan
macrumors 6502a
4K is pointless at the moment, nowhere near enough content for it on streaming services and won't be for a few more years plus 4K tv penetration is only just starting to move in the mass market (high prices kept it luxury for most of the last couple years)...
Why waste money and margin on 4K when most people couldn't watch it and the ones that could wouldn't have much to see anyway...?
Yes I have.
cmichaelb
macrumors 68020
Hardly. Every I see has them out all the time when sitting around. Now, the mic issue makes sense, I see your point.
laurim
macrumors 68000
I think they are referring to the problem I have. I will be watching Prism TV and all my cat has to do is walk by and touch the TV remote and my receiver changes to output the TV and I have to use the Prism TV remote and about 7 button presses to get back to the output Prism TV is on. I *could* turn off the HDMI interaction that allows the remote to also change my receiver to the correct output but I like it most of the time. It would be nicer if the action to change outputs was separate from the trackpad that's so sensitive.