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Nice to see Apple is still gaining share. This despite being slow to upgrade their offerings. :cool:
 
God, I miss the VOTE DOWN button. :(

Why ? If they did update the iMac and Mac Pro, they would probably get quite a few more sales, which is what the poster was hinting at. Why would you down vote him ?

Why not explain to us why you don't agree instead of cowardly down vote ?
 
Samsung and Asus are probably the majority of the other category. Samsung has bursted into the pc scene in the last year.
 
Why ? If they did update the iMac and Mac Pro, they would probably get quite a few more sales, which is what the poster was hinting at. Why would you down vote him ?

Why not explain to us why you don't agree instead of cowardly down vote ?

Exactly, and it's been interesting reading comments from some that wish to down vote others as it's outing those who have been doing it for a while. So now we know who you are and ya can't hide ;)
 
Apple's Share of U.S. PC Shipments Rises to 12% in 2Q 2012

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IDC has released its own estimates for the quarter, pegging Apple at a 1.1% year-over-year decline in U.S.


Which one do I believe?
Neither.

These are industry analysts and they are worse than financial analysts.

At least professional financial analysts are graded by StarMine in terms of accuracy vis-a-vis their peers. The top 20% receive four- and five-stars. Professional financial analysts still miss by a lot and as a whole, they are outclassed by amateur financial analysts (at least in predicting AAPL fiscal performance).

There is no equivalent accuracy rating system for industry analysts. Their numbers are pretty much pulled out of a random body orifice (I'll give you three guesses as to which one, but you'll only need one guess).

So why are we reading this stuff here?

Because today's media site operators (MacRumors, AppleInsider, Cnet, Macworld, Engadget, etc.) worship the Almighty Pageview. True journalistic integrity died in the Nineties.

So they reblog a bunch of drivel from charlatans. Because if they don't, someone else will reblog the exact same material and get more hits.

Welcome to tech news publishing in 2012. Actually, more like 2002. It's been like this for a while, it's business as usual.
 
My view is that the total market is shrinking

That scares me but understandable with all the tablet sales-
 
I want to buy some stock in "Other" they seem to be doing pretty awesome :)
 
New MBP Could Reverse This Trend

The new Retina Display Macbook Pros could level out this line. Apple has managed to come up with a line of far more expensive laptops that is disposable.
The machines are unrepairable when they break. Once the buying public comes to grips with this unfortunate fact, all the rosy predictions will falter.
 
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Sorry to interrupt but I think this is important.

So, what the heck is going on with MacRumors ?

Why is it that I can only vote UP a comment and not down ?
 

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I'm really, really curious what percentage of total MBP sales are retina. With all this controversy about how environmentally unfriendly and unupgradable they are, I wonder if people will go for the old style body...
 
Apple's Share of U.S. PC Shipments Rises to 12% in 2Q 2012

vs

IDC has released its own estimates for the quarter, pegging Apple at a 1.1% year-over-year decline in U.S.


Which one do I believe?

Exactly. What is going on here??

I don't believe in those IDC trolls. :)

Neither.

These are industry analysts and they are worse than financial analysts.

At least professional financial analysts are graded by StarMine in terms of accuracy vis-a-vis their peers. The top 20% receive four- and five-stars. Professional financial analysts still miss by a lot and as a whole, they are outclassed by amateur financial analysts (at least in predicting AAPL fiscal performance).

There is no equivalent accuracy rating system for industry analysts. Their numbers are pretty much pulled out of a random body orifice (I'll give you three guesses as to which one, but you'll only need one guess).

So why are we reading this stuff here?

Because today's media site operators (MacRumors, AppleInsider, Cnet, Macworld, Engadget, etc.) worship the Almighty Pageview. True journalistic integrity died in the Nineties.

So they reblog a bunch of drivel from charlatans. Because if they don't, someone else will reblog the exact same material and get more hits.

Welcome to tech news publishing in 2012. Actually, more like 2002. It's been like this for a while, it's business as usual.

Actually you are looking at numbers for two different things.

Gartner says their market share went from 10.8% to 12.0% while IDC says it went from about 12.5% to 11.4%.

Gartner shows this as a 4.3% year-over-year increase whereas IDC's number indicate a 1.1% y-o-y decrease.
 
I would like Apple to release a Mac Pro-like case and OSX-enabled motherboard for $499. Mac DIY for you, ladies and gentlemen. Sold only through the online Apple store, so if it fails there are not any problems.

It would be in complete opposition with whatever they have done until now, and certainly not in their style, but they would keep an high profit margin, and appease those wanting an affordable tower.
 
Market share is a virtually meaningless statistic. The number that really matters is unit sales and growth in that department. Apple's 4.3% unit growth only looks good in comparison to the other near neighbor computer makers, and it only looks good because they grew backwards. In fact with or without Apple, the computer market shrunk in the quarter. Puts that "rise" into proper perspective.

Since the iPad is singlehandedly responsible for the shrinking (or not growing) PC market, I think that Apple isn't worrying too much about that.
 
I'm really, really curious what percentage of total MBP sales are retina. With all this controversy about how environmentally unfriendly and unupgradable they are, I wonder if people will go for the old style body...

There is artificial controversy about GPU speed. There is an artificial controversy about upgradability - but you know what you buy, and I can't see how a non-upgradeable Mac with 16 GB of RAM is any worse than one that can be upgraded to 16 GB. There are claims how the Retina MBP is environmentally unfriendly, which goes straight away when you look at actual facts. Like the "unreplaceable, unrepairable" battery that Apple replaces without problems, and the "unrecycleable" computers that Apple takes back for recycling.

What limits the Retina MBP is the number of retina displays that Apple can buy. US Store: "Shipping in 3-4 weeks".

And the feature where MacRumors joins consecutive posts seems to be broken.
 
God, I miss the VOTE DOWN button. :(

I'm glad it's gone. Now you won't have perfectly reasonable posts being downvoted to hell and back simply because someone said something some other guy didn't like.

Such as "Android is a perfectly good platform, and competes quite well with iOS these days".

That's a true statement, but just mentioning Android in a positive light is enough to get people all riled up. If I said that within the first two pages of a thread, I would've been sporting a -15 for no other reason other than NUH UH UR DUM! I USE APPLE STUFF BECAUSE INNOVATION AND STEVE JOBS AND STUFF ITS THE BESTEST EVER -1".

Now if you disagree with something someone says, you have to make a post to air your disagreement. You can't just snipe at people passive aggressively anymore.

...though admittedly, this could end up being a double edged sword.
 
I'm glad it's gone. Now you won't have perfectly reasonable posts being downvoted to hell and back simply because someone said something some other guy didn't like.

Such as "Android is a perfectly good platform, and competes quite well with iOS these days".

That's a true statement, but just mentioning Android in a positive light is enough to get people all riled up. If I said that within the first two pages of a thread, I would've been sporting a -15 for no other reason other than NUH UH UR DUM! I USE APPLE STUFF BECAUSE INNOVATION AND STEVE JOBS AND STUFF ITS THE BESTEST EVER -1".

See, that's a post that I would vote down immediately, because of the claims you are making. On the other hand, I see being marked down by the Fandroids as a mark of honour. I'll miss that. Posts like "Apple actually does take back all the Macs for recycling", or "you say the Retina MBP battery can't be replaced, but Apple offers to do so for $199" usually getting from 2 to 4 negatives.
 
See, that's a post that I would vote down immediately, because of the claims you are making. On the other hand, I see being marked down by the Fandroids as a mark of honour. I'll miss that. Posts like "Apple actually does take back all the Macs for recycling", or "you say the Retina MBP battery can't be replaced, but Apple offers to do so for $199" usually getting from 2 to 4 negatives.

What it comes down to is I've made a post that should be floating in the -6 range, but instead sports a nice life affirming +1. And there ain't nothing anyone can do about it. :p

Also I upvoted you because I can't downvote you, and I have this HUGE DRIVING NEED TO CLICK AN ARROW THAT HAS TO BE SATED!
 
I would like Apple to release a Mac Pro-like case and OSX-enabled motherboard for $499. Mac DIY for you, ladies and gentlemen. Sold only through the online Apple store, so if it fails there are not any problems.

It would be in complete opposition with whatever they have done until now, and certainly not in their style, but they would keep an high profit margin, and appease those wanting an affordable tower.

I puked a little. This is horrible.
 
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