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Um, okay. Why not just give Apple TV the same capability? And let it play music on your stereo system?

And will it let you order stuff on Amazon Prime? Or, better yet, let your 'friends' order three tons of creamed corn on Amazon Prime?

I guess it would if you give any guest a root account tied to your credit card. This is obviously going to have user accounts.
 
I am not trying to troll but this seems kind of silly to me because I can just say "hey Siri" and my phone will come to life and answer what I need. I don't know why this would make any sense at all. If someone could explain why this would be different from "hey Siri" on an iPhone, I might change my mind.

Might include geofencing like some others have stated. Using bluetooth and knowing you're home to turn on lights or music or etc....who knows.

I agree though. If it's another Echo, I won't buy
 
Under Tim Cook, Apple does not innovate. They just copy what others are doing. The glory days of Apple are long gone...

Same old doom and gloom, Apple have changed since the days of Steve Jobs of course they have times change and move forward but that doesn't mean they don't innovate or that they don't release great products still.
 
So where are all the "software event only" people who act as if expecting hardware at WWDC is the stupidest thing a person could possibly do?

Granted this is not the most interesting hardware from my point of view, but I'll be glad if they at least release something tangible. I'd rather see a new iPad Pro or a 12" MB though.

If this works in any meaningful way it will be the software that is the news story.
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idk why people want these ridiculous in home assistant bases like echo and google home etc. They seem like such a waste of money and are near worthless. why do people want to speak to a speaker to ask about the weather when they have it on their phone? Who wants to hear music out of a tiny speaker system when they have a stereo? These things really can't do anything your smart phone / watch already can do. I get the whole connected home thing but honestly its just not there yet and the tech is stupid expensive. Smart thermostats just waste your home oil. I keep my house at 55 in the winter when I'm not there. I walk in and turn it up and start the wood stove. I don't need to set it for before I get home and waste oil/heat. I guess this whole thing just doesn't excite me. Let me know when a smart light bulb costs under $5

What you need is a more efficient kerosene lamp.
 
I know what caused this to be announced. A couple weeks ago, I invested in five Echo devices, having given up on waiting for Apple to introduce such a device. This same thing happened with the Apple Watch. Years of rumors but I take the plunge and get a Pebble, sure enough, the announcement is made. All I can say, is "You're welcome."
 
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The difference is distance. We had the echo for a while (basically useless without Apple Music and other integrations for our Apple household) and the best thing about it was that you could say Alexa from across the room and it would "hear" you. If my phone is across the room, I can't do that without yelling really loud.
I would say -- if you have your house reasonably covered with these devices -- the difference is you don't need to think about or know where your phone is. You just talk wherever you are and it hears you, and you hear it. I don't know about you but my phone ends up all over the house in various places. Also the size of these allows for much more sophisticated microphones (and thus filtering out noise) than a phone does. So it is about distance, but more than that.
 
But what will it do differently from Amazon's Echo? I'm an Apple fan but what can they bring different to the table?

Based on rumor, I think Apple is on the right track...

Better Audio Quality - I've always said that if the Echo speaker was good I would have kept it just for that. The "intelligent assistant" bit is a joke like the rest of them so that feature should be secondary IMO.

Better Security - Apple's HomeKit is the most secure home automation platform on the market.

Integration - No need to use separate apps like with Echo. Automatic integration with contacts, Apple Music, Home, maps, reminders, calendar, etc. as well as integration with your other devices... get directions to "Al's house" using the speaker Siri and have it show up on your iPhone.

Better Design - I think it's safe to assume that it will have a better design than Echo.

If it's $500, and the audio quality is up there, I'd say it'd be like getting premium AirPlay speakers with Siri functionality for free. Pretty compelling if you ask me.
 
it was reported by Wall Street Journal this morning that apple has 250 billion dollars parked on banks overseas. With that amount of money they can give away those speakers to each and every American. Or do something novel like pay their taxes.
Given that the current administration and congress agrees they don't need to overpay taxes on monies already earned and saved, your comment is bogus. In addition the FEDGOV plans to lower Apple's marginal tax rate from 39.6% less deductions to 15% with fewer deductions like cost of employees and new equipment.

You might very well see a new trend called "onshoring" (TM-me).

If you are an Apple shareholder (any stockholder) this tax policy will increase the P/E multiple independent of earnings.
 
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The difference is distance. We had the echo for a while (basically useless without Apple Music and other integrations for our Apple household) and the best thing about it was that you could say Alexa from across the room and it would "hear" you. If my phone is across the room, I can't do that without yelling really loud.

Apple need to fix their broken or low quality mic. I can whisper to a $30 Moto G from across the room and it works fine.
 
I am not trying to troll but this seems kind of silly to me because I can just say "hey Siri" and my phone will come to life and answer what I need. I don't know why this would make any sense at all. If someone could explain why this would be different from "hey Siri" on an iPhone, I might change my mind.

Is your phone within reach at all times while you're in the house?

I view this as just another stepping stone towards automated houses becoming the norm. Think about laying in the tub, taking a shower, working in the garage, out on the deck.... a house that listens to you no matter where you are. That's where this is going, and we're just getting started.
 
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I would say -- if you have your house reasonably covered with these devices -- the difference is you don't need to think about or know where your phone is. You just talk wherever you are and it hears you, and you hear it. I don't know about you but my phone ends up all over the house in various places. Also the size of these allows for much more sophisticated microphones (and thus filtering out noise) than a phone does. So it is about distance, but more than that.
Not to mention that with Siri you have wait around for the "Dong" to ask your question, and then probably get the rolling eyes effect but with Alexa she answers right away with no hesitation and in a much more pleasant voice I might add.
 
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Usually I'd agree but the iPod, iPhone (although I still say its a blatent ripoff of MS's Surface table concept - just shrunk down) and iPads defined the form factors for their time. Siri was the first "assistant" on mainstream portable devices. The iMac was the first all in one...
they did define them - but they weren't the first - there were many smart phones, mp3 players and tablets before apple got into those markets. SIRI may have been the first, but, Apple didn't invent it, they bought the company that did. Apple didn't create the first all in one - during the 80's they were very popular - the TRS-80 Model II came out in '79.
 
I do want Apple to succeed with this. I really do. But they need to really up Siri's game to get people to convert. If they can provide an overall better experience -- and show that Siri is actually useful -- then I could see myself leaving the Echo. One nice thing would be the integration with iCloud to avoid the IFTTT style kludges required of the Echo.
 
Apple need to fix their broken or low quality mic. I can whisper to a $30 Moto G from across the room and it works fine.

These home devices (Echo, etc.) don't use just a single microphone, but have multiple, directional microphones. The microphone in the iPhone is not broken or low-quality. It's just not designed for that particular use case — cross-room listening. Then again, is your Moto G from 2013 or 2014, or newer? Maybe it has multiple directional mics specifically for this purpose, whereas the iPhone does not (yet)?
 
Please list 3 commands that you need daily that fail to work for you with Siri, and then we can talk. Be specific.

Siri works great for me most of the time. No complaints.

1) A couple days ago, and this happens occasionally, every time I tried to ask Siri a question it ignored me and couldn't even interpret what I was saying. I had to restart my phone to make it work.

2) I can't do offline commands for tasks that are local on my phone. I should be able to open an app or play a song without having a strong network connection

3) This mess-

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Based on rumor, I think Apple is on the right track...

Better Audio Quality - I've always said that if the Echo speaker was good I would have kept it just for that. The "intelligent assistant" bit is a joke like the rest of them so that feature should be secondary IMO.

Better Security - Apple's HomeKit is the most secure home automation platform on the market.

Integration - No need to use separate apps like with Echo. Automatic integration with contacts, Apple Music, Home, maps, reminders, calendar, etc. as well as integration with your other devices... get directions to "Al's house" using the speaker Siri and have it show up on your iPhone.

Better Design - I think it's safe to assume that it will have a better design than Echo.

If it's $500, and the audio quality is up there, I'd say it'd be like getting premium AirPlay speakers with Siri functionality for free. Pretty compelling if you ask me.

To really get the full benefits of these voice-activated devices one device isn't enough....
Especially if the device controls the home thermostat etc
At $500 that could get very expensive.

Intially I was thinking $199 to be competitive, but lets say $249

Amazon dot pack 3 units $130

Apple Home Siri 3 units $750 approx

SONOS Play one 3 units $600
Amazon Dot 3 units $130
Total $730
 
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WWDC would be an ideal time to launch this. I can see the focus being on software improvements in Siri. After that you have a gajillion people who gave you $1,500 each to be there and you can tell them the guidelines they need to know to do the work for you.
 
I am not trying to troll but this seems kind of silly to me because I can just say "hey Siri" and my phone will come to life and answer what I need. I don't know why this would make any sense at all. If someone could explain why this would be different from "hey Siri" on an iPhone, I might change my mind.

You can have wireless speakers throughout your house filling your home with a constant flow of your favourite music from your iTunes Library subscription; And have an assistant to set your lights to various colour schemes and tell you what the weather will be like.

But if you already have all that from other vendors then I'm not sure why you'd switch.
 
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Do you live alone? If anyone else lives with you, how do they have this kind of experience when your iPhone is out of the house with you? What do they do when you are away for a week or two for vacation/travel?

It's the same argument made against, "why can't our iPhones be the :apple:TV remote?" It can. But again, that's great for singles living alone... but as soon as the "remote" leaves the home, how do the rest back at home control the :apple:TV?

This- like :apple:TV- is primarily meant to be a stationary (at home) device... not a mobile device that may or may not be at home at any given time.

Note: I've been fairly skeptical about the merits of one of these myself... until I'm at friends homes with one of the competitor's versions. They use them a lot and competitor devices seem almost Star-Trekkian "computer..." useful and very simple to use. Several of these friends have iPhones but still favor Echo vs. "Hey Siri...". Siri will have to make some big strides to seem as good IMO.

Our iPhones (plural) ARE the Apple TV remotes. I don't understand your objection.

And I really don't understand a use case for this - we've got access to Siri on our wrists and in our pockets and (at the moment) on my lap. What I really need is for someone to write a shopping list program that uses Siri. (Don't tell me about Reminders until you can make it sortable and add categories like stores or aisles.) What I really need is for someone to create an editing tool for the iTunes database so that Siri can actually *find* anything in my library. What I really need is for Siri to play a desired Audible audiobook.

What I don't need is another so-called "hub" from Apple. I bought the Hub when it was in an iMac. I bought it when it was an Airport. I bought it when it was the Apple TV. So far, the promise of a Hub has never been realized.
 
I want to keep Amazon and Google as far as possible from intruding into my living room. An Apple alternative to an Echo is extremely appealing, particularly if the learning is local, rather than feeding some data-hungry business model where information about me brings value to them.
 
Based on rumor, I think Apple is on the right track...

Better Audio Quality - I've always said that if the Echo speaker was good I would have kept it just for that. The "intelligent assistant" bit is a joke like the rest of them so that feature should be secondary IMO.

Better Security - Apple's HomeKit is the most secure home automation platform on the market.

Integration - No need to use separate apps like with Echo. Automatic integration with contacts, Apple Music, Home, maps, reminders, calendar, etc. as well as integration with your other devices... get directions to "Al's house" using the speaker Siri and have it show up on your iPhone.

Better Design - I think it's safe to assume that it will have a better design than Echo.

If it's $500, and the audio quality is up there, I'd say it'd be like getting premium AirPlay speakers with Siri functionality for free. Pretty compelling if you ask me.[/QUOTE
I do want Apple to succeed with this. I really do. But they need to really up Siri's game to get people to convert. If they can provide an overall better experience -- and show that Siri is actually useful -- then I could see myself leaving the Echo. One nice thing would be the integration with iCloud to avoid the IFTTT style kludges required of the Echo.
I think Apple knows this. They have to do it BETTER or they won't be able to compete.
 
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