Oh please let it be so! I'm still using my 2011 TBD right now and I love it. I wish they could make an affordable display like this again. People have differing ideas on the quality of these panels, but I think the colour accuracy has been great.
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Apple's Thunderbolt Display Classified as 'Vintage' Amid Rumors of a Replacement
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The 30" ACD consumed 150W, the LG is 60-90W. Modern panels are more efficient, you should expect less heat.
I sure hope they come out with a consumer priced replacement! Let’s see more rumors!!
The current 27" iMac starts at $1799. I see no reason why a matching monitor would be more expensive than that.
I hope they address this giant hole in the Mac product line -- not just for the Mini but also for extending the desktop on an iMac with a monitor that looks like it belongs there.
The laptops are also made more useful with a good external monitor when you are at your desk.
I still use my 27” ACD as a daily driver. Not a single fault with it. I loved the integration of the speakers, usb hub etc all in one package. Best monitor value I’ve found in years.
I’d love to have a new Mac Mini/Apple display combo but the XDR is just way out of reach.
I’d love to have a new Mac Mini/Apple display combo but the XDR is just way out of reach.
It doesn't bother me particularly, but they clearly have non-glossy options in mind these days -- maybe we'll see that "nano-texture" thing as an option.
Dear Apple, I have a recipe for you: take the new iMac, remove the m1 inside, sell this as a monitor.
I'd buy two of these.
I'd buy two of these.
I Still have an Apple Cinema Display LED (27-Inch). I would like it to work again as I know its only problem is a bad connection at the ending mini displayport plug. (Sometimes I get it working tapping on the plug)
Apple won’t repair it, Independent Mac repair shops I contacted declined trying resolder or change the end plug.
Thanks to Apple Design with a soldered cable to the monitor you have to change the whole cable which cost approx 200$ + soldering work inside the monitor. I find the repair way to costly.
Is it so difficult to solder a new mini displayport plug?
I liked that monitor and ask here as the bit newer Thunderbolt verision is more or less indentical and could face exactly the same problem and solution. And most on this thread potentially know about this problem. Thanks
Apple won’t repair it, Independent Mac repair shops I contacted declined trying resolder or change the end plug.
Thanks to Apple Design with a soldered cable to the monitor you have to change the whole cable which cost approx 200$ + soldering work inside the monitor. I find the repair way to costly.
Is it so difficult to solder a new mini displayport plug?
I liked that monitor and ask here as the bit newer Thunderbolt verision is more or less indentical and could face exactly the same problem and solution. And most on this thread potentially know about this problem. Thanks
The Thunderbolt Display has a built-in cable, but you can also use a different thunderbolt cable plugged into the thunderbolt port on the monitor. So even if the cable that is built-in breaks, you have another connection port with a cable that can be replaced easily.
I have 2 spare already. I have tried and the trash can can run 6 of them at once. 👍
That's essentially what the LG UltraFine is, and that ended up at $1,300 for a plastic housing - I think many underestimate the cost of CNC-milled aluminum enclosures (look at AirPods Max vs Bose/Sony).
It sounds like people want a modern panel, Al enclosure, speakers, webcam, mic, and IO. That's essentially an iMac with a logic board that has a cheaper chip, no RAM/storage/WiFi/BT, and no included keyboard/mouse.
I imagine the savings are there, but less than one might expect. Add in the fact that the enclosure/logic board will be unique to the monitor and at a lower volume than the iMac, and the cost likely jumps to a point where the perceived value vs just buying an iMac is uncompetitive.
This is where second-party products like the UltraFine come in - to make it competitive, cost has to be cut: the enclosure becomes plastic, speakers/mic become "good enough" rather than class-leading, and build quality drops (look at the inside of an ultrafine vs an iMac, making the internals pretty costs money). So the product that costs an amount people are willing to spend no longer meets the bar for a product Apple is willing to put their name on, and they work with a partner like LG to produce it.
So today the question is whether the state of technology/manufacturing/demand has changed, it looks like Apple saw a market for the ProDisplay, but we'll have to wait and see if consumer demand today makes space for a general productivity monitor.
Honestly, if it were possible to revive Target Display mode in today's iMacs, and perhaps utilize the internals to add functionality like wireless SideCar, graphics/processing acceleration, and full IO/webcam; an iMac might be a compelling "accessory" for a MacBook Air - but I don't think Apple would want to market such a use case and muddy their product line.
I only want the modern panel, Al enclosure, IO would be nice as well but not a deal breaker to me.
I still run my 2x30” ACD. But it’s becoming increasingly difficult to run them. Still my favorite panel though.
Comment: It's time for Apple to bring back its Cinema Display - 9to5Mac
Apple Cinema Display and Thunderbolt Display have been discontinued and never replaced with another model made for consumers.
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That may be the case for you, but unfortunately may not be what the rest of the market wants to buy or what Apple is willing to produce.
The reason Apple needs to provide a large (27"+) consumer-grade external display is simple: They've changed all current versions of MacOS such that text looks good on retina (220 ppi +) displays only, yet they don't provide the very type of stand-alone consumer display their OS's require!
Further, there exist only two* aftermarket consumer-grade large retina displays: The 27" 5k LG,which uses the same panel as the iMac, and the 31.5" 8k Dell. And the Mac can't drive the Dell:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/8k-or-8k4k-display-support-in-macos.2221938/page-2)
[*The 27" 5k Iiyama ProLite XB27779QQS apears to have been discontinued.]
Further, there exist only two* aftermarket consumer-grade large retina displays: The 27" 5k LG,which uses the same panel as the iMac, and the 31.5" 8k Dell. And the Mac can't drive the Dell:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/8k-or-8k4k-display-support-in-macos.2221938/page-2)
[*The 27" 5k Iiyama ProLite XB27779QQS apears to have been discontinued.]
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It’s like a no brainer isn’t it and actually makes no sense whatsoever not to make this.
1. Customers buy more into the ecosystem [guaranteed to be TB4 only input / fixed MagSafe cable as TBD]
2. Better visual branding for Apple
They would be all over my studio……. [if I put the XDR all over the studio I would be bankrupt and have no requirements for such a high level display - 4-5k is more than fine]
or maybe it does, as I will buy multiple displays…. and can imagine a hell of a lot of MacBook, Mac mini, and macpro users would say the same.
Apple getting rid of the TBD was the single most stupid decision I feel Apple made in the last 10 years !
Again, there has to be an intersection between what you want, what things cost, and what meets Apple’s standards.
I don’t think the monitor you propose meet all criteria - the 5K LG monitor is $1,300 and made of plastic, with relatively lower build quality than any Apple product. Just bumping from there would likely add several hundred dollars, and I don’t think the newer panels are cheaper than the 5K ultra fine (especially as they transition to the new miniLED tech).
I would guess, if they made it, Apple’s consumer 24” 4.5K monitor would end up at no lower than $899, a 5K 27” at $1699, and 6K at $2,499.
These are wild guesses, but my primary point was that removing features from an iMac saves less cost than you might expect, and those savings are eaten up by lower volume sales for consumer monitors vs iMacs. If you cut cost further, you arrive at a product that’s not at Apple’s standards, and is why the LG ultra fine exists in the first place.
Not sure where I was saying it needs to be cheap. Apple isn’t cheap.
It just needs to be around $2k.
Yes and I previously said in this thread I would be happy to pay for this as a professional user. I am sure many other professional users can afford these prices too.
As a consumer for home, no I wouldn’t buy one.
You need to appreciate there are many pro users out there, who can afford things that consumers can’t / wont pay for. In terms of tax, if I pay $2k for a monitor it is only actually costing the business $1200, but you knew that…….