Apple's Virtual WWDC Event to Kick Off on June 22

[deconstruct60]

... strongly doubt the existence of a 14", ...

Mini-LED suppliers and multiple analysts say otherwise.

It's schedule for 2H20 or 1H21.

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Those dates were probably many grounded in pre-pandemic assumptions. late 1H21 is likely quite early for a 14" follow on (which would be close to a year and shouldn't produce much a "too soon" complaints ) and 2H21 more likely if get another "second wave " event like Nov 2019 - March 2020 later in 2020.

Even then Apple will probably take the 4 port TB 13" model and just move it down to the 2 port TB space. micro-LED aren't going to be low cost so it won't be a solution at the lower end for as about as long as Apple held onto the non-Retina 13" screens ( and fully rolled out the Retina screens across whole lower end line up.)

 

[lunarworks]

I just want a MacBook with a handle

What an odd request.

 

[CarlJ]

my hope is that they know OS X for intel is withering and will rewrite it for ARM and it will be nicer and bug free. Crossing my fingers.

Rewrite? Odds are they’ve had it running on ARM for a long time. There isn’t much assembler code involved, it’s all C.

 

[deconstruct60]

my hope is that they know OS X for intel is withering and will rewrite it for ARM and it will be nicer and bug free. Crossing my fingers.

The current macOS isn't "for Intel". It is actually for x86-64. That isn't an Intel exclusive. In fact, the baseline of x86-64 is AMD's intellectual property (that Intel has rights too. ). Apple can fully 'dump' Intel without leaving x86-64.

When the rumors say "dump Intel" that could mean exactly just that. Dumping Intel.


ARM version going to be bug free. Chuckle. Nope.

 

[Westside guy]

That keynote's gonna be weeeird without all the frenzied hollering.

Or the incredulous laughter at $1000 stands.

 

[Wags]

Sounds

Just wait for the zoom meeting attended millions of devs

What a prize if someone could Zoom bomb that.

 

[Deemr]

I am wondering if they will stream into Apple TV+. In the times of Apple TV+ enabled Smart TVs i cannot believe, that they still require a Apple TV hardware to get the content streamed.

 

[ct2k7]

Or the incredulous laughter at $1000 stands.

It wasn’t A laughter, more of a shock to the audience.

 

[RumorConsumer]

The current macOS isn't "for Intel". It is actually for x86-64. That isn't an Intel exclusive. In fact, the baseline of x86-64 is AMD's intellectual property (that Intel has rights too. ). Apple can fully 'dump' Intel without leaving x86-64.

When the rumors say "dump Intel" that could mean exactly just that. Dumping Intel.


ARM version going to be bug free. Chuckle. Nope.

Ah thanks for the clarification. Is there any aspect of the OS that needs to be adapted that could force them to make it better?

 

[ct2k7]

Ah thanks for the clarification. Is there any aspect of the OS that needs to be adapted that could force them to make it better?

In what way make it better?

 

[RumorConsumer]

In what way make it better?

I mean fix bugs and optimize. As a Mac user and former Mac professional since 1993 OS X has been going steadily down hill for a couple years. Snow Leopard was the last time we got a real bug fix. Mojave so so.

 

[M87]

Here's hoping that Logic Pro X for iPad Pro rumor pans out.

 

[jseq]

Funny my 2012 27" died also last week. A complete format, I was able to backup from Bootcamp. 10 hours later and I was up and running. I don't want to waste money on a new or 1 1/2 year old iMac if new ones are coming right around the corner.

Just got mine from the repair shop, new PSU and it´s running fine again. Didn´t lose nothing cause i´m running MacOS from an external SSD! The wallet is 200€ lighter though! 😅

 

[ct2k7]

I mean fix bugs and optimize. As a Mac user and former Mac professional since 1993 OS X has been going steadily down hill for a couple years. Snow Leopard was the last time we got a real bug fix. Mojave so so.

Most of these annoying bugs aren’t at compiler level and are much higher level in the OS. In other words, bugs introduced by macOS developers rather than kernel developers. I’d prefer a year of little updates and a large amount of work of housekeeping in macOS.

 

[deconstruct60]

Ah thanks for the clarification. Is there any aspect of the OS that needs to be adapted that could force them to make it better?

The OS isn't the primary source of the bugs. The people coding are the primary source of the bugs. Better development processes and better people would get the bug count down. I wouldn't bet on that.

As long as much of the emphasis is put on pixel peeping the looks of the layers on top of the OS more so than the stuff can't see, it probably won't make great leaps in getting better. Similar with more proactive internal testing on a wide varieties of configurations by folks out to rigidly enforce the specs. A significant factor of this is the fox guarding the hen house ( programmers policing their own code. ). If a misconception lead to implementing the requirements wrong then highly unlikely going to invent a test to discover what don't understand.

Hooking it to whiz bang keynote dog and pony shows doesn't help either. Apple simply needs to do less , better. Want to get up and say 10's of 100's of new API/functions in macOS. The longer the list the more likely at least one of those has bugs in it. ( yearly OS updates isn't necessarily a problem. The amount of stuff packed into them matters more than the frequency. ). When sales pitch folks have too much control... you get more bugs.

 

[oilers780]

iOS 14 expectations: split screen apps on iPhones, PiP mode on iPhone, UI overhaul

iOS 14 reality: less attractive features, but probably something really appreciated down the road

 

[44267547]

I suspect the September Keynote will be ‘all digital’ as well. Actually, I think any major event will probably be held video conference/digitally for the rest of the year. Mainly because there’s still so much uncertainty, some states are finally on the rebound or beyond Thor ‘Peak’, and I don’t a second outbreak would just undo everything that’s been positively accomplished. I gotta say it, ‘but safety first.‘

 

[deconstruct60]

It may feel like a long time when you’re not sitting there, but in the hall, it doesn’t feel long at all.

If they put it into the middle of the week the physical would probably kick in too. ( sequentially doesn't make much sense. ). But part of the sizzle they are selling there is that it is the first event allowing the developers to get to the substance of the show. It is also a "golden ticket" that most folks can't get. Willy Wonka secret factory tour for the exclusively lucky ( swag event piled onto the swag goodies get at registration). . A more non technical warm up to the "State of the Union" note that gets far more down into the substance and more expert aimed. Much of the keynote is aimed at non developers : analysts , tech writers , 'fans' , etc. And also part "pep rally' for Apple employees who can finally more openly talk about what they have worked on for a long time.

But chop off that 'buzz' and it is long. If Apple detaches product upgrades to perhaps a media even weeks/days before can shorten it to just the "easy" intro to new stuff for developers. A new Mac Mini , iMac , iMac Pro , AppleTV etc. would sell just fine as the new MacBook Air and MacBoo Pro 13" will before June.

 

[Freida]

not gonna lie that I'm a bit disappointed that its so late in june :-(

 

[ct2k7]

not gonna lie that I'm a bit disappointed that its so late in june :-(

Several things have been happening around the world which has likely contributed to the push back in dates.

 

[deconstruct60]

I am wondering if they will stream into Apple TV+. In the times of Apple TV+ enabled Smart TVs i cannot believe, that they still require a Apple TV hardware to get the content streamed.

WWDC 2019

"...

• Fire up Safari on your Mac (macOS Sierra 10.12 or later), or Edge on your Windows 10 PC, and point it to apple.co/live.
• On Windows and Linux, the stream will also work on Chrome and Firefox.
• You can also use Safari on an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 10.0 or newer.
• Turn on your Apple TV (2nd generation or newer) with the latest version of tvOS on it. You should be able to find WWDC in the Apple Events channel. ..."

How to watch Appleâs WWDC 2019 keynote live

Want to catch Apple's new product announcements live? Hereâs how to tune in today as the event kicks off at 10AM PDT / 1PM EDT / 7PM CEST / 10:30PM IST.

thenextweb.com

Previous WWDC were not limited to AppleTV hardware. This one should be in same boat. Could probably chromecast it to a TV if wanted to.

Some smart TVs don't have full AppleTV+ app. But those with the app... should work as all grabbing is a web service stream. ( that's why Chrome on Linux works just fine too. )

Besides the big keynotes which are primarily one way streaming , that could get more sticky. But the "big show" stuff shouldn't require an Apple device at all.

 

[Scottsdale]

Here’s my take on Apple switching to ARM. Why not have both Intel and A-Series ARM chips simultaneously inside the Macs for five years. At the end of that time, developers will have had sufficient time to recompile all software. And consumers/professionals using macOS will have five years to find alternatives if their desired software is not available.

The purpose here would not be to have the ARM chip act just as a T2 controller. The purpose would be to have the ARM chip running with a super low-powered core at all times. When a user tries to use an app that works on ARM, it sends the instructions to the ARM chip. When the Mac opens an app that will only run x86 Intel, the Intel CPU will run fully. When the Intel chip isn’t needed it can be throttled all the way down to conserve power.

I believe Apple can do a better job with graphics and power efficiency than Intel/AMD. It would seem really nice if Apple had its own graphics that run all GPU tasks. This would also allow the computer to run all encoding so much more efficiently. Think Pro apps compiled for ARM and doing the heavy lifting. Think video encoding processes always running the ARM CPU. Really, it would allow Intel to be around to run Adobe CS Suite and legacy apps. All others could run so much more efficiently using the iOS iPadOS software. Like Microsoft Office runs on ARM. All iOS apps and etc.

In addition, the iPad would be able to dual boot and also virtually run iPadOS and macOS. There’s no reason today’s iPad Pros couldn’t handle it. Maybe Apple would prefer to release new iPad Pros to run both macOS and iPadOS, but it could just run ARM compiled software. No x86 Intel apps would run on iPads obviously. Unless Apple also has a software tool like Rosetta for Intel Macs to run old pre Intel software for years while developers could recompile apps.

In my opinion, this is what Microsoft missed when it released the Surface X. It could have done the same thing.

That would be a big win for professionals trying to use macOS and everyone whether they want to run a MacBook/Mac or an iPad as their computing device it would just work. There would be two versions of software for some apps for awhile, but the grand desire is to just get to ARM-based apps.

Apple has proven its ability to design ARM chips and selected the right chip fabricator in TSMC. Apple crushes it with battery performance and etc. imagine iOS running on a MacBook with that massive battery. It would feel like a win-win-win for all of us. And, Apple could make the thin MacBooks and maybe switch to carbon fiber or Liquidmetal. I would love the capabilities of doing it all on both machines. And Apple could make machines like the Surface that really make for a better experience as a computer from a tablet iPad.

Anyone ever think of this? I have thought this should solve Apple’s problems with a transition ever since the rumors started about ARM chips. Highly optimized and able to do anything we need. Wow.

 

[gigapocket1]

I just don’t want another Rosetta Stone life lol.
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This also feels later than usual

 

[Spacetime Anomaly]

Those creepy Memoji things...

 

[JPack]

Here’s my take on Apple switching to ARM. Why not have both Intel and A-Series ARM chips simultaneously inside the Macs for five years. At the end of that time, developers will have had sufficient time to recompile all software. And consumers/professionals using macOS will have five years to find alternatives if their desired software is not available.

The purpose here would not be to have the ARM chip act just as a T2 controller. The purpose would be to have the ARM chip running with a super low-powered core at all times. When a user tries to use an app that works on ARM, it sends the instructions to the ARM chip. When the Mac opens an app that will only run x86 Intel, the Intel CPU will run fully. When the Intel chip isn’t needed it can be throttled all the way down to conserve power.

That would unfortunately, be the worst of both worlds. You would need two sets of memory and other controllers. Apple doesn't do half-measures either. Apple didn't keep 32-bit even though it was easy to do so. Apple only acknowledges Swift and not other languages. If you keep x86 and ARM, there's no incentive for developers to re-code.