This makes sense after the 5G cancellation rumors. Even if Apple managed to ship something roughly comparable to Qualcomm, including where Qualcomm would be by then, the window it’d be usable in would be too small. Better to just start on the next gen stuff where Qualcomm is also just starting out and maybe also influence the standard where they have a chance of implementing it themselves.
Apple's Work on 6G Connectivity Already Expanding
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segfaultdotorg
macrumors 68000
Why is nobody talking about 7G?
VisceralRealist
macrumors 6502a
It's not just you, but it may just be us. Everyone seems to rave about 5G, and yeah, when it works, it's great, but there are many times when it doesn't work. Losing the signal while it's switching constantly between two types of 5G isn't a superior experience to 4G. There are times when I simply turn off 5G because the signal is more reliable.
PsykX
macrumors 68040
Well for me 4G has been considerably faster than 3G, but we're 2 years in with a 5G network and so far it has been perhaps the biggest letdown tech the the last decade.
VisceralRealist
macrumors 6502a
Isn't T-Mobile supposed to be the best for 5G?
Sure, when I'm downtown where the signal is strongest, I don't have issues. But go just a little into the suburbs where I live and it kinda sucks.
GtrDude
macrumors 6502a
“even amid its widely reported difficulties developing a custom 5G cellular modem.”
It’s a big company.
They have the manpower to walk and chew gum.
It’s a big company.
They have the manpower to walk and chew gum.
QuarterSwede
macrumors G3
5G is faster simply because its latency is much lower than LTE and it has more bandwidth. However, it’s still not enough in dense urban areas, like airports, because people have more devices than they used to. Since most people are no longer on LTE, using that seems faster in those areas when it’s inherently not, it’s just not overwhelmed.
james2538
macrumors 6502a
Cellular experience will vary wildly by location. In some cities T-Mobile might be best but not all.
Depending on the region AT&T and Verizon (along with US Cellular) still have an edge as you venture outside urban cores.
Comparing coverage is pretty easy now days thanks to eSIMS. T-Mobile and Verizon have test drive apps, AT&T you can use the Cricket Wireless trial app as it piggybacks on their network.
ArtOfWarfare
macrumors G3
Who was asking for 5G? Who's asking for 6G now?
It seems like we hit "more than fast enough" with LTE several years ago. Faster isn't a selling point to me anymore.
These days I'd rather have:
1. Cheaper
2. More reliable
3. More coverage
And reliable and coverage are both quite good too. I think ATM, the majority of time when something doesn't load for me, it's way more likely to be that the service on the other end is down than my carrier is having a problem.
It seems like we hit "more than fast enough" with LTE several years ago. Faster isn't a selling point to me anymore.
These days I'd rather have:
1. Cheaper
2. More reliable
3. More coverage
And reliable and coverage are both quite good too. I think ATM, the majority of time when something doesn't load for me, it's way more likely to be that the service on the other end is down than my carrier is having a problem.
Won't have if all you have is 1 access point.
It is roaming with more than 1 access point on the same network that is the problem.
mnsportsgeek
macrumors 601
I have 3 access points.
MuppetGate
macrumors 6502a
Probably makes more sense to skip it and aim for 6G. By the time they fix the problems it’ll be time to switch up anyway.
MuppetGate
macrumors 6502a
Really? Where?
TechnoMonk
macrumors 68040
Its not just you, it depends on the network and proximity to the 5g towers. Luckily for me, I have no slow down in most areas I go. Very rarely I experience it in crowded places. With 5G you are at the mercy of network provider.
VisceralRealist
macrumors 6502a
Agreed. More reliable and better coverage would matter more than "faster" to me, but they can't guarantee that, so the speed is all they can talk about. Yeah, I guess if you climb up on top of a tower you can get 1 TB/s downloading an app update...
TechnoMonk
macrumors 68040
Yes. Why waste time reinventing 5G when you can start with 6G, and influence the future standards and implementations.
TechnoMonk
macrumors 68040
I would never go back to LTE, I consistently get speeds around 300-500mpbs with peaks higher at times. LTE for me personally feels like AOL dialup in todays world. It depends on location, quality, reliability of the network.
That’s probably what they were really aiming for, but it’s harder to sell consumers (and regulators approving permits) on them so they hype up the speeds instead. Real world usage isn’t nearly as impressive outside of tiny pockets of mmWave coverage since what they really got out of it was allocating roughly the same throughput to more devices in a given area by building better instead of more towers (or at least fewer than if they stuck to the old stuff longer).
The same play likely won’t work as well the next time around, though.
TechnoMonk
macrumors 68040
Yes. I am on Tmobile, I am pretty far from the city/downtown. But it is the best and most reliable in my area, and had pretty good experiences where I traveled. A few of my friends switched from ATT/Verizon to Tmobile and have much more consistent 5G.
ATT and Verizon are pretty much trash in many cities on how they chose to implement 5g. Most of their 5g is glorified LTE. Most of the prepaid networks like Cricket(ATT), and Mint/PCS(Tmobile) are throttled and dont have anything closer to the ATT or Tmobile plans. ATT and Verizon have clear advantage in remote areas where T mobile never had good coverage.