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T-Mobile has an excellent 5G network. Consistently rated number 1.

Dropped the ball means they didn’t invest what is necessary to build a competitive 5G network. Hence why everyone on those networks thinks it’s no better than LTE.
Yup. I have Verizon in the dc metro area and 5g is rarely above 30mbps
 
Well for me 4G has been considerably faster than 3G, but we're 2 years in with a 5G network and so far it has been perhaps the biggest letdown tech the the last decade.

5G is being deployed slowly and in the beginning it's not allocated a lot. Any network depends upon what channels/frequency bands are available. In many areas you get just one mid-range channel on 5G and 2-4 channels on 4G, often lower frequency ones so with higher range+penetration, so ofcourse 4G have overall more capacity, range, etc. They can't switch most channels over immediately because most people don't have 5G phones.

It will take time. Once a broader mix of shorter-range high bandwidth channels and longer range channels are switched to 5G it'll be 4G that looks bad.
 
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Steal patents from Chinese companies as they can’t complain will be the only way to “advance”. The standard have been proposed but since they come mainly from certain Chinese company we don’t trust their engineering and we better steal their IP and claim that “they stole it first” of “they are evil, hence we must use their tech and claim it ours”.
 
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But not using Apple’s in-house modem, right? Or 6G is the time Apple finally somehow build a custom modem chip themselves?
This is as much a defensive move by Apple to be able to create some 6G patents that will enable Apple to have a better negotiating position when they inevitably have to put Qualcomm 6G modems in their devices in the future.
 
It’s possible Apple’s realized its timeline for in-house 5G modems is still far-enough off that it makes more sense at this point just to shift those engineering resources over to 6G development. It’s amazing what a stranglehold Qualcomm has over the 5G space. It’s still too critical of a component for Apple not to want to bring it in-house, but it’s clearly a difficult technology to develop.
Guessing this is what happened and trying to route around Qual's patents on 5G was not working well (since obviously Qual created those patents specifically so you couldn't work around them).

This is their chance to get their own path (patent wise) to do 6G, so this is their chance. Still very much a unknown how doable this will be.
 
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The 6G chip kicks 5G up several more notches. It can transmit waves at more than three times the frequency of 5G: one terahertz, or a trillion cycles per second. The team says this yields a data rate of 11 gigabits per second. While that’s faster than the fastest 5G will get, it’s only the beginning for 6G. One wireless communications expert even estimates 6G networks could handle rates up to 8,000 gigabits per second; they’ll also have much lower latency and higher bandwidth than 5G.
Concerning Terahertz in relation to the boosts about 100 times the speed with 6G
Anyone hoping to exploit this promising region of the electromagnetic spectrum must confront its very daunting physics
The terahertz regime is that promising yet vexing slice of the electromagnetic spectrum that lies between the microwave and the optical, corresponding to frequencies of about 300 billion hertz to 10 trillion hertz (or if you prefer, wavelengths of 1 millimeter down to 30 micrometers).
Spiderwebs indeed could interfere with 6G. :eek:
 
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But not using Apple’s in-house modem, right? Or 6G is the time Apple finally somehow build a custom modem chip themselves?

We called it! The report of Apple "cancelling the 5G modem" was missing the bigger picture. Apple is just focusing on the next-generation version instead. Smart move!
 
It depends on one's location and one's cellular carrier.
In the northern Northeast US, one is lucky to get LTE/4G as 5G is still slowly rolling out. There are pockets of 5G in 'major' areas (i.e. cities) but there are still lots of blackout spots outside of the cities towards the suburbs and urban areas.
 
In Chicago I get about 40mbps on Verizon 5G. Are people really seeing higher than 100 mbps for 5G on other networks?
 
lol, don’t read too much into these opinion reports. Apple stays one generation behind the mainstream so it will be a few years before we see movement off 5g for Apple devices. Remember, we’ve only just now gotten usb-c.
 
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who asked for 3nm? 2nm?
I think you have a few things backwards ...
Who didn't?

That delivered better efficiency, longer battery life, lighter devices, etc. Yes, the higher performance was maybe wasted on most people, but that's fine - they got everything else which is what they really wanted. And it lead to cheaper Macs, too.
 
Sorry if I have a hard time getting all hyped up over the next G-whatever cell technology.

I'm in the Philly metro area and I still can't get VZW's 5gUW offering at my house.

At my desk at work, I can barely make a phone call. let a lone watch a You Tube video or stream music.

Not buying the hype.
 
Agreed. More reliable and better coverage would matter more than "faster" to me, but they can't guarantee that
Why not?

T-Mobile + SpaceX is delivering worldwide coverage via Starlink. They should focus on improvements that make that kind of tech more possible. I'm not a radio engineer, so IDK the details of what it'd look like, but I assume that optimizing a cellular radio to talk with a fixed tower probably looks different from how you'd do it if you knew that the other end was in Low Earth Orbit.
 
In Chicago I get about 40mbps on Verizon 5G. Are people really seeing higher than 100 mbps for 5G on other networks?
I live in the Boston Metrowest suburbs in a small town. On T-Mobile I get 600-800 mbps all the time. Not sometimes, but always on 5G UC. It's so good, I replaced my cable modem with a T-Mobile 5G access point for a flat $50/month. It works great. I get nearly gigabit speeds for a fraction of the cost of Verizon or Xfinity.
 
I live in the Boston Metrowest suburbs in a small town. On T-Mobile I get 600-800 mbps all the time. Not sometimes, but always on 5G UC. It's so good, I replaced my cable modem with a T-Mobile 5G access point for a flat $50/month. It works great. I get nearly gigabit speeds for a fraction of the cost of Verizon or Xfinity.
Wow. Sounds like I’m getting ripped off. Verizon is charging me about 80 bucks for 5G unlimited.
 
You should switch to a 5G network that doesn't suck. I get gigabit download speeds regularly on my iPhone 15 Pro.
which provider do you have ? i have AT&T and i hardly get 5G speeds on 15PM. also it fluctuates drastically and is hardly ever consistent in connection
 
Wow. Sounds like I’m getting ripped off. Verizon is charging me about 80 bucks for 5G unlimited.
Just to be clear, the $50/month is for wireless home internet. I pay additional cost for my T-Mobile cell phone. No such thing as a free lunch.
 
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