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Approximately 1/8th of U.S. iPhones in Use Now on Verizon

I don't believe these numbers.

Why?

Not because I'm a fan of one or the other, but because how are they getting %? Look at the sheer numbers of iPhone 4's sold in the 7-8 months before the Verizon iPhone was even released. Your telling me that Verizon has alreayd sold 12% of the millions AT&T did?

I doubt many AT&T iPhone 4 users actually cancelled their plan and switched, so your not going to be losing AT&T numbers that way.

Wait for Verizon to release it's official numbers, then compare to the numbers from AT&T and we will have our answer. Other than that it's just silly.
 
+1 - I have had my ViPhone since launch day, replacing two-plus years with AT&T and I have to say it's been what I'd expected thus far. I no longer worry about making or connecting a call, and my data load times are faster because I always get a decent connection.

As I said before, this is going to be a consistent slow-burn for Verizon. That number will keep going up and up, and will probably accelerate when the iPhone 5 hits the market.

Now if I only could apply iOS 4.3 to my phone, I'd be in good shape.:)
 
The iphone5 will explode in sales on verizon. I have a nexus one with tmobile now and so glad my contract is done...awesome phone, awful network... but I can't wait til summer so I'm getting the tbolt.
 
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I've been surprised by these low numbers
 
topmounter said:
Considering all the complaints people have had about AT&T, that number is rather pitiful.
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Not at all. It is extremely impressive. Not only are we dealing with a product which many consumers expect to be replaced with the 'next best thing' in months, we're also dealing with an extremely short timeframe and a product which people can't just swap out at their earliest convenience due to contracts and costs. All this compared to a competitor which has had this product for years, with plenty of time to build up a considerable customer base.

Very impressive figure.

And that said, I'm skeptical that it over-represents sales.
 
vincenz said:
I bet a lot of people bought the vzw iPad this weekend because they were the only ones left.
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I bought the VZW iPad because Best Buy had zero 64 GB AT&T iPad's available, out of over a hundred.

I also stopped at the AT&T store nearby who said they did not receive any shipments so wouldn't be selling the iPad...this, at a large AT&T store in Washington, DC.
 
lyngo said:
That is fantastic growth even after a questionable launch.
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I agree with GFLPraxis. Lots of Verizon iPhones came in the mail.

Plus... with Verizon having 94 million customers... that means there are over 125,000 people ready to upgrade their phone every day.

You can bet when people walk into any of the 2,000 Verizon stores and there is now an iPhone sitting on the shelf... that a fair amount are being bought every day.
 
In our mall, the Apple Store and the Verizon Store are literally 100 feet apart. Nobody, and I mean Nobody, stood in line at Verizon to get the iPad. The line for the Apple store was several hundred feet long....it actually went past the Verizon Store!
 
NoExpectations said:
In our mall, the Apple Store and the Verizon Store are literally 100 feet apart. Nobody, and I mean Nobody, stood in line at Verizon to get the iPad. The line for the Apple store was several hundred feet long....it actually went past the Verizon Store!
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That's because the vast majority of people want a 16 GB WiFi only iPad.
 
I am one of those iPhone users who switched.

AT&T was dropping approximately 40% of my calls. Signal indication (3G S) would fluctuate from 2-0 over 15 second intervals. Complaints to AT&T brought the suggestion that I "turn off 3G and use Edge." And that's what I did when anticipating important calls.

A friend got the m-cell booster to solve the same problem, it was "beamy" in that within 'sweet spots' it would be a robust signal, but move 3 feet and the signal completely died.

I got Verizon the very first day. Have not had a dropped call once. Data rate is maybe 1/2 that of AT&T, but I had heard that and was prepared.

The numbers are skewed, IMO, in favor of new Verizon users consuming a lot of data. That's too big a market share grab in too little time.

Oh, and AT&T has written and called me several times to get me back. If they had paid that much attention to me when I was a customer, I wouldn't have left!
 
Michael Scrip said:
I agree with GFLPraxis. Lots of Verizon iPhones came in the mail.

Plus... with Verizon having 94 million customers... that means there are over 125,000 people ready to upgrade their phone every day.

You can bet when people walk into any of the 2,000 Verizon stores and there is now an iPhone sitting on the shelf... that a fair amount are being bought every day.
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Thanks for that. It is easy to forget how big the numbers are that we are dealing with in the cell phone market.
My girlfriend just dunked her Verizon blackberry in a bathtub. She looked at the iPhone, but I insisted she just take a replacement blackberry (she has insurance) for now and wait for iPhone 5 this summer. I do think this summer is the real test for AT&T. As the first adopters who switch there iPhone every year will have a reason to buy a new phone and a chance to switch networks. Buying a new but identical phone and canceling service might have been too much extra cost, but if the new phone is a given (and you know for a lot of people it is), then the cost is just the service cancellation cost.
 
this is how apple wants it. We are fighting amongst ourselves with this at&t vs verizon ****.

End of the day we are still using iPhones and apple is winning.
 
acslater017 said:
For whatever reason, I've heard that Apple was not interested in CDMA technology at the time - or maybe they just wanted to focus on one technology for their first generation product.

I also imagine there were some business reasons for it. AT&T could provide subsidies, carrier-specific technologies (e.g. Visual Voicemail), etc. in exchange for being THE provider of iPhones. Maybe if Apple offered iPhones to everyone, their value/leverage would go down.

My educated guesses.
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There is a ton of urban legend when it comes to this. We may never know. When the iPhone was first shown in early 2007, several media outlets (USA today, WSJ) were saying their sources said Apple went to Verizion first, and then to Cingular.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28-verizon-iphone_x.htm

There are plenty of CDMA and CDMA-like markets that they could have sold it in with some modifications. Japan, South Korea and China are some examples. In fact having GSM does not automatically make a phone "global" as many say. For example, the 1st gen iPhone with GSM could not work in Japan, since they did not have a GSM network to support it, at least where I tried my 1g iPhone it did not work.
 
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Market share is kind of meaningless in this context.

Unless that is if ATT is, on balance, loosing iphone customers.

I'd like to see the raw data but I assume that both Verizon and ATT are adding iphone subscribers. Neither is in decline
 
Full of Win said:
What if they (Verizion) had just given in to apple five years ago? Such a lost chance.
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They didn't have the technology. I thought they didn't even get asked. For all if their faults ATT really was best choice for speed and technology. For all of the multitasking that the droid touts it can't even make a phone call and surf web. That's multitasking if you ask me.
 
Verizon iPhone = Castrated iPhone.

Slow, cant browse and talk at the same time.
I'll give you better call quality, thats IT.... and in some areas.
 
The DRis said:
I don't believe these numbers.

Why?

Not because I'm a fan of one or the other, but because how are they getting %? Look at the sheer numbers of iPhone 4's sold in the 7-8 months before the Verizon iPhone was even released. Your telling me that Verizon has alreayd sold 12% of the millions AT&T did?

I doubt many AT&T iPhone 4 users actually cancelled their plan and switched, so your not going to be losing AT&T numbers that way.

Wait for Verizon to release it's official numbers, then compare to the numbers from AT&T and we will have our answer. Other than that it's just silly.
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Simple math...:

Count total number of iPhone traffic on their sites (X)
Count total number of ATT iPhone traffic on their sites (A)
Count total number of Verizon iPhone traffic on their sites (V)

To get % of a particular carrier:

Percentage =(A/X)*100

There you go...
 
ApplLover said:
Verizon iPhone = Castrated iPhone.

Slow, cant browse and talk at the same time.
I'll give you better call quality, thats IT.... and in some areas.
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What a choice: Cannot use 3G data and talk vs. Cannot use 3G data or talk.

ATT is not that bad, but their 3G coverage is poor relative to Verizon. Moreover, its quite well documented that Verizon is overall the more reliable network of the two.
 
dagamer34 said:
I think the more important number will be 1 month after the iPhone 5 launch. I'm gonna guess 60% AT&T, 40% Verizon.
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There will be no major difference.. people are locked into their contracts for 2 years.. it has not been 2 years since the iphone 4 launch, thus people will only be allowed to "upgrade" to the new iphone and not switch carriers..

AT&T is in a dominant and strong position here.. it is called the "First Mover Advantage" in economic terms..

Wiki defintion:

First-mover advantage or FMA is the advantage gained by the initial ("first-moving") significant occupant of a market segment. This advantage may stem from the fact that the first entrant can gain control of resources that followers may not be able to match.
 
@ the people saying Verizon lost.

Verizon's share will increase dramatically when:

1) 3GS users are out of contract
2) Verizon customers are out of contract
3) iPhone 5 is released
 
So who is Chitika exactly? And how would they possibly know what kind of iPhone I have? I haven't registered anything with them. I've never been to their site. Seems like a whimsical figure to me. It also seems highly unlikely that Verizon will have sold several million iphones they didn't know about and I don't think their activation figures will support the percentage. I say that without looking up the exact figures, but it seems off.
 
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