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Come this summer...I will be switching from AT&T to Verizon for the iPhone 5...

I know some have great experiences with AT&T in their area...but in my case (Central Valley, CA)...I have to go outside my house, down to the mailbox to use my phone without it dropping a call!!! :( And I live in the middle of a fully covered 3G area...!!! ARRGGGG:mad:
 
Give it a couple of months and let the dropped calls and bad service complaints start rolling in.[/QUOTE]

NO I hope that doesn't happen...LOL...hopefully Verizon stays ahead and ups their game to prevent this from happening!!! :p
 
I bought an iPad2 on Friday and its awesome

...but its spell checker sucks, apparently.


NO I hope that doesn't happen...LOL...hopefully Verizon stays ahead and ups their game to prevent this from happening!!! :p

Verizon has already been handling a lot more 3G traffic than AT&T - Verizon's been pushing 3G laptop modems for half a decade (my early 2006 Dell has an internal Verizon 3G card). 3G laptops typically use far more bandwidth than the typical smartphone user.

While I won't be surprised if Iphone traffic causes Verizon to do some local upgrades to handle the added traffic - there won't be anything like the "AT&T Meltdown".
 
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I bet a lot of people bought the vzw iPad this weekend because they were the only ones left.
I agree.

I'm sure that after waiting in line, a "desperate" person might have paid an extra $130 for a 3G Verizon iPad, if the wifi model was sold out.
 
It's not actual 4G though.....

Technically, no US provider has "4G" which is supposedly 100mb/s.. but that requirement trounces most land-line/dedicated setups.. hell I get 35mb/s with FIOS and it's good enough for me.

Verizon's LTE network blows away everyone else in the US. There's no comparison.
 
They didn't have the technology. I thought they didn't even get asked. For all if their faults ATT really was best choice for speed and technology. For all of the multitasking that the droid touts it can't even make a phone call and surf web. That's multitasking if you ask me.

At the time the iPhone was being developed, AT&T had the same problem (EDGE).
 
At the time the iPhone was being developed, AT&T had the same problem (EDGE).

At&t had 3G when the iPhone came out. That's why everyone ragged on the iPhone so badly when it came out without 3G. I had a 3G razor that was a little hard to give up for the original iPhone. And it had no problem dropping calls either.
 
At&t had 3G when the iPhone came out. That's why everyone ragged on the iPhone so badly when it came out without 3G. I had a 3G razor that was a little hard to give up for the original iPhone. And it had no problem dropping calls either.

Although the iPhone didn't use the 3G network because of battery consumption of the available chipsets and the size of the 3G network AT&T had. I still phrased it badly though.

In the end, if it was a choice between EDGE and 1xRTT data, the behavior was the same. EVDO was being rolled out a bit faster on Verizon, though.
 
If Apple gets it's way, it'll be 50%/50%. That would mean excellent sales penetration on both networks. I have never had a problem with AT&T. I plan to buy 2 ipad2's with AT&T wifi (next week hopefully!!). The majority of people buying wifi ipad2s are buying the AT&T models. Supposedly 2 out of every 3. I suspect that very few of those people are planning to switch to Verizon. No matter when the iphone5 comes out.
 
Doesn't it seem quite astounding that after AT&T having an exclusive since mid 2007, one out of eight Iphones is on Verizon just a few weeks after introduction?

Maybe, as many of us here said, being able to "talk and surf at the same time" is really very minor compared to simply being able to "talk" on your phone. AT&T is a horrible provider in my area (Silicon Valley).

Of my inner circle of friends, half of them with Iphones have switched to Verizon. Ignore the cost of breaking contracts, they simply wanted a phone that could make and receive phone calls. (Maybe it's to avoid the embarrassment that they had when asking to borrow my WinMo Verizon phone to make a call when their Iphone had zero bars.)
 
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I've been watching these numbers closely for the past month and this is just a blip - it has been creeping towards 10% and would have hit it within a week or so. But 12% is a faulty reading of some kind.
 
Sorry guys but this story is totally bogus. All of the available information supports the idea that it is physically impossible for the number of Verizon iPhones to account for more than 2 or 3 percent of the total, at the optimistic best. It appears in fact that for most days the daily sales of v & t iPhones are pretty close when they are not actually neck and neck. Of course those are purely estimates since v has not been willing to release actual sales data. The expectations were that Verizon might sell 3 to 4 million total iPhones in the first quarter and we are not yet half way there. And I wonder from the reports if they will really hit that. Assuming they do, that number wouldnt yet appear to be more than 8% of the total. And that would assume at&t never sells another iphone. I know all of the vLovers think it's some kind of contest but it's not. And that Apple was seriously mistaken to choose AT&T first but they weren't. Like with most polls, you can't expect a small snapshot of a fragmented market to yield meaningful results.
 
Maybe, as many of us here said, being able to "talk and surf at the same time" is really very minor compared to simply being able to "talk" on your phone. AT&T is a horrible provider in my area (Silicon Valley).

Don't know where you are in the Valley but my area, the west valley (Los Gatos / Saratoga / Monte Sereno / Campbell) it is great. All of the 17 is one big cell array.
 
ATT rant below....

ATT takes no responsibility for their actions, network coverage, the incorrect training of employees which provide info based on what the customer wants to hear and not what is correct, dropped calls and very poor sound quality. ATT's sound quality reminds me of the cell phone i had in the 90's. It is laughable. I recently used my iPhone 4 on Skype and couldn't believe how good the iPhone can sound (VOIP is better? sad). I strongly suspect ATT will take a huge hit which will be reflected in their stock's market value. A company cannot conduct business like that and survive for long. We consumers are smarter than we were a few years ago. I believe the only reason they made it this long was customers had no other choice to get an iPhone.
 
Going off topic a bit here... but I am curious..

Does Verizon support Visual Voicemail?

Yes. It is one of the reasons I went w/the iPhone. Verizon's own voicemail system is the worst thing I've ever used. Apple's Visual Voicemail is gold. I'm very happy w/it.
 
ATT is not that bad, but their 3G coverage is poor relative to Verizon.

The above is true where I live. Look at a coverage map of northern Michigan and the Upper Peninsula. AT&T is all EDGE up here. Verizon though, offers 3G coverage throughout the state.

EDIT: Found an article that lays it out well. The tradeoff in Michigan is coverage versus speed. Go with Verizon if you value coverage in rural areas. Go with AT&T if you are near a city and value the higher data speeds:

http://www.mlive.com/business/index.ssf/2011/03/west_michigan_road_test_verizo.html

A year or two from now, the situation could be entirely different.
 
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Wait until contracts (including mine) are up.
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The numbers won't be accurate until all pre-Verizon iPhone contracts are up. Which is around 2 years after the Verizon announcement or the actual orders started (Feb 9th 2013 for existing VZ customers, Feb 10th 2013 for everyone else)

Before that, some people purchased an iPhone thinking AT&T was their only choice. And (despite what you may read) AT&T iPhones actually do work well for a lot of people, so not everyone will cancel early.

So let me know how the balance looks on Jan 11th 2013 (2 years after people in the US were officially told they had a choice) when everyone is 100% free to choose AT&T or Verizon without penalty.

I am happy with my service (I don't live in NYC, if I did I probably would not be happy) and love being able to use 3G and the phone at the same time (Its a big feature for me, and since I can make calls I do use it a lot) The next iPhone for Verizon should be here soon, that advantage for AT&T may disappear and I'll probably switch then (so I can visit NYC and call my loved ones!)
 
I was hot to trot to change to Verizon! I did, and guess what, I am on 39th floor of a building in the loop and the service showed 4 bars but did not work. Worked like a charm everywhere else. So I had to go back to ATT.

I wish Verizon allowed to route calls over WiFi like TMobile does with UMA.
 
ATT takes no responsibility for their actions, network coverage, the incorrect training of employees which provide info based on what the customer wants to hear and not what is correct, dropped calls and very poor sound quality. ATT's sound quality reminds me of the cell phone i had in the 90's. It is laughable. I recently used my iPhone 4 on Skype and couldn't believe how good the iPhone can sound (VOIP is better? sad). I strongly suspect ATT will take a huge hit which will be reflected in their stock's market value. A company cannot conduct business like that and survive for long. We consumers are smarter than we were a few years ago. I believe the only reason they made it this long was customers had no other choice to get an iPhone.

While I am sure that there are "war stories" for any carrier, I do have to say that ATT at least for me has been bad and I will reassess when my contract is up.

Last August I canceled a phone because the user (a friend of mine) died. The first thing the ATT person on the phone said: Well there won't be an early termination fee.

I then kept receiving bills for the months ahead and they were listed as overdue.

Another call: The AT person said: Oh, I see here somebody put in reason for cancellation: Not using! I said: While that is true as he is dead, can you please stop the bills coming.
They didn't!
So, I kept sending back the bills for 3 months always writing on them:
User is dead, you will not be paid stop sending bills.

It finally seems to have stopped.

So, yes, ATT service personnel would need some training and IMO their business website is a mess!
 
Technically, no US provider has "4G" which is supposedly 100mb/s.. but that requirement trounces most land-line/dedicated setups.. hell I get 35mb/s with FIOS and it's good enough for me.

Verizon's LTE network blows away everyone else in the US. There's no comparison.

Oh, I agree about Verizon's network. It's just not 4G. More like 3.75G LOL
 
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It does not bode well for somebody who is publishing statistics when they cannot normalize to 100% total.

Kinda hard to see how Verizon's 9.4% correlates with AT&T's 96.7% -- that would mean they are considering 106.1% of the population.

EDIT: This image taken around 9:20am PST on March 16, 2011.
 
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