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Yup, I would rather have the ability to just cram the interface rather than having to give up the keyboard.
I doubt they will ever do that, since they specifically provide developers with the ability to determine what orientations are supported, and they are instructed to permit as many orientations as possible. So the assumption is that if the developer does not enable a particular orientation, that there is a good reason for that (e.g. controls would be too small, the layout constraints would break, etc.)
 
Seems very strange, I would assume every bit of RAM will be used for future iPadOS versions instead...
 
no they cant the 1tb m1 chip has 16gb ram thats how its made for the Mac etc, they cant change the chip they are just using the same batch and like I said that m1 chip has 16gb ram on 1tb and higher thats it
I just checked by trying to order a new MacBook Air and you can configure both the m1s with either 7 or 8 core GPUs with 1Tb storage with 8gb ram so no it not necessary to have 16gb in the iPad they could have had all models with 8gb
 
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Limitation aside, he says the app crashes if they try to allocate more, this is alarming to me. I've never worked on an embedded platform where you couldn't check if you got a NULL/nil pointer back or catch an exception if OOM. Apps downright crashing on OOM were always considered abominations.
 
I doubt they will ever do that, since they specifically provide developers with the ability to determine what orientations are supported, and they are instructed to permit as many orientations as possible. So the assumption is that if the developer does not enable a particular orientation, that there is a good reason for that (e.g. controls would be too small, the layout constraints would break, etc.)
I thought the only limitation imposed by Apple was that you couldn’t/shouldn’t support the phone being upside down. I think they should now make it a requirement of app approval that an app has a landscape mode considering hardware keyboards etc.
 
I thought the only limitation imposed by Apple was that you couldn’t/shouldn’t support the phone being upside down. I think they should now make it a requirement of app approval that an app has a landscape mode considering hardware keyboards etc.

You can support upside down, it turns out. There was a time when Apple floated that requirement (in the very early days of iPad) but they dropped it, because it would be a huge hassle for game developers.
 
Throwing around ad-homs for a difference of opinion. Tsk, Tsk.

The m1 will take it up a notch. So what's your point?

You don't know what's coming down the line.

An opinion, and maybe a bad one.

Another bad opinion. You're welcome to your opinions, but throwing around insults for posters who disagree with you only gets you one thing.
And if your position is “the CEO of the richest company in the history of the world should just be able to sell iterative poop with lavatorial quality control and no accountability, buyer beware”, I think we will continue to disagree.

No ad homs. It's common knowledge you're stanning at every given chance. ;)
 
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no they cant the 1tb m1 chip has 16gb ram thats how its made for the Mac etc, they cant change the chip they are just using the same batch and like I said that m1 chip has 16gb ram on 1tb and higher thats it
Where does this keep coming from?

Storage is NOT on the M1 SOC so the two are not linked anymore then Apple wants for any given SKU

They could have used the same M1 w/ 8GB for all storage sizes on the new iPad Pro. They didn’t. No one yet knows why. We only know Apple isn’t the generous type so they didn’t add that much RAM out of a newly found charity streak.

Would be nice if people stopped making your baseless claim though…

Just say it simply:

“Currently, the extra RAM isn’t a major differentiator and we await WWDC to know what it will or will not offer”.
 
no they cant the 1tb m1 chip has 16gb ram thats how its made for the Mac etc, they cant change the chip they are just using the same batch and like I said that m1 chip has 16gb ram on 1tb and higher thats it
No, the M1 chip has no RAM on it (other than cache and registers). The RAM is external, but in the same package. But the RAM is just standard packaged RAM, and is easily swapped.
 
Did you happen to see the website and look at the marketing.
1. ipad pro - with the m1 chip (talks tech - because the m1 is a big deal and apple wants people to associate the m1 with performance and user improvements)
2. mind blowing performance (user experience)

How are those two not the same point?

They didn't really talk about user experience, because they have barely answered "OK, the 2018 iPad Pro is wicked fast… what does that actually do for me?", and they certainly haven't answered it for the much-faster-yet 2021 iPad Pro.

What's the killer app?

The killer app for the Mac appeared after a year and a half in mid-1985: desktop publishing. Software drove hardware and hardware drove software. Color in the Macintosh II was huge. Larger displays were (well, literally) huge. Performance improvements actually helped tremendously, cutting workflows from hours to minutes to seconds.

11 and a half years after the iPad and 5 and a half after the iPad Pro, what's the killer app for the iPad? Drawing? Painting? Maybe, but even those barely seem to max out the CPU.

It's a valid question to ask and doesn't mean the iPad sucks or Apple is doomed.

3. XDR display (user experience)

Yes, I think adding mini-LED is a good choice, but I think "user experience" there, too, is a stretch. It's mostly a major spec bump. It doesn't really enable anything you couldn't previously do.
 
I think Apple went years ahead in the hardware. Their software side needs to catch up. Given the iPad now has the M1, it's up to Apple on how much of the desktop capabilities will be unlocked in the future.
 
WOW ! I wander if Android 12 has the same limitation?
Will this be fixed in a future IOS?
Makes buying Ram on the M1 iPad useless at this point.
They guy that pays $2400 for the 16GB M1 is the sucker.
What's a computer lol.
 
And if your position is “the CEO of the richest company in the history of the world should just be able to sell iterative poop with lavatorial quality control and no accountability, buyer beware”, I think we will continue to disagree.
Another way to phrase the above is:
And if your position is "the CEO of the richest company in the history of the world should just be able to sell innovative products that appeal to their hundreds of millions of customers, who each will make their value judgement as to whether the products are worth it to them.
We will disagree on the direction of Apple.
No ad homs. It's common knowledge you're stanning at every given chance. ;)
Hmmmmm.
 
Limitation aside, he says the app crashes if they try to allocate more, this is alarming to me. I've never worked on an embedded platform where you couldn't check if you got a NULL/nil pointer back or catch an exception if OOM. Apps downright crashing on OOM were always considered abominations.
I'm pretty sure this is how iOS has worked since it had apps. Apple had a note with something like "Apps that allocate too much memory will be closed." The only update here will be increasing what that maximum size is.

Not to say it's the best solution in all situations around, but on a system without a swap file...
 
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